Can you fold the pocket rockets?

T_Dawg said:

It happened to me today. I had a pair of aces in the hole and I flopped a set. But also a king and queen - all three spades. I wanted so bad to go all in but I knew trouble lie ahead. I called a small bet. Then came a jack of spades so I knew someone had to be holding a flush. They went all in. Heartbreak! I folded and wouldn't you know it, it ended with a royal flush. :sigh:

This wasn't the first time I folded strong hole cards but it has been rare that I folded a reasonably strong flop. I have never been sorry I folded when all was said and done.

So there you have it. Can you save yourself from yourself when you need to?

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T_Dawg said:

It happened to me today. I had a pair of aces in the hole and I flopped a set. But also a king and queen - all three spades. I wanted so bad to go all in but I knew trouble lie ahead. I called a small bet. Then came a jack of spades so I knew someone had to be holding a flush. They went all in. Heartbreak! I folded and wouldn't you know it, it ended with a royal flush. :sigh:

This wasn't the first time I folded strong hole cards but it has been rare that I folded a reasonably strong flop. I have never been sorry I folded when all was said and done.

So there you have it. Can you save yourself from yourself when you need to?

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ohshootmybad said:

bet big on the flop, snap call a jam. you have trip aces on an a-k-q board, what are you afraid of?

i really dislike your call on the flop because you convinced yourself you were behind or you're going to behind on a later street, and you allowed yourself to play super passively to give your big hand 'protection'. but it doesn't need it. it's such a strong hand you're getting paid off on so many times, you want to get your money in. in fact, you'd rather get your money in on the flop (if you can) because you guarantee you see the turn and river and you avoid putting yourself in awkward spots where you can get bluffed on a scary turn or river.

now, am i saying the turn fold to a jam is a bad fold? no, it's not. it's probably a great fold because you're likely way behind at that point. that's not the issue. the issue is, you put yourself into such an ugly spot that you're forced to make the fold. when you have a monster of a hand, you want to avoid weird spots where you're forced to check/fold or it's going to kill your action. by betting big, you know you're getting called by so many broadway combinations and you know, if your opponent has any strong hands+draws, they're calling or even jamming it in. and that's what you want, to set yourself up to stack off your opponent with a big hand.

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Geyomobama said:

Yep...if you limp and allow mutiple opponents in then you might as well abandon ship. Should you face a large bet or reraise. You're most like looking at two pairs or better. Sorry it happens...

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UM3SH said:

I never folds hands like Aces and Kings.

It's a stupidity.

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Shumkoolie said:

Your "set" of Aces (not trips) is ahead the vast majority of the time, and I agree with ohshoot that you want to build a big pot and get paid off. Does it always work? No, of course not, there will be times where you go bust, which would have happened here, but I agree that while it was a disciplined fold, your play backed you into this corner in the first place. It's about applying pressure to your opponents, the kind of pressure that will force them to put their chips in bad. In the long run, you get paid off SO WELL by doing this.

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Shumkoolie said:

Very disciplined fold, but I quoted a response below which makes me want to ask you what your action was preflop? Did you limp? Did you raise/3 bet?



Your "set" of Aces (not trips) is ahead the vast majority of the time, and I agree with ohshoot that you want to build a big pot and get paid off. Does it always work? No, of course not, there will be times where you go bust, which would have happened here, but I agree that while it was a disciplined fold, your play backed you into this corner in the first place. It's about applying pressure to your opponents, the kind of pressure that will force them to put their chips in bad. In the long run, you get paid off SO WELL by doing this.



Limping Aces pre is asking to get yourself felted. Are there times where sneaking in a limp is acceptable? Depending on the table/specific opponent dynamic, of course. But I see people DESPERATELY trying to set traps (it's actually quite obvious when they are doing it), that they will end up either losing value or trapping themselves.




If you're playing a satellite tournament where the prize is equal to all winners and you're on the bubble and you are in the middle of the pack, you're telling me you're going to play Aces instead of taking the guaranteed prize? To quote you "It's a stupidity".

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ohshootmybad said:

oh, gosh darn it! such a silly mistake, but i'm glad someone caught it.

i'm also glad someone agrees with me on this as well. i was starting to second guess my response since everyone was agreeing with and/or complimenting op's play.

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