Commitment threshold, Point of commitment
We have all heard the term committed but what does it really mean, and who do we know when we are pot committed.
I am getting a lot of these ideas and words from Professional No Limit Hold’em.
The Commitment threshold is when 10% of the smallest stack goes in the pot.
The Point of Commitment is when 1/3 of smallest stack goes in the pot.
Here is why: if you start with a 100bb stack and put in 10bb (how we get here is irrelevant) and are called there will be 10bb(your raise)+10bb(call by villain)+1.5 bb (blinds) = 21.5bb pot. Your stack is now 90bb as is the villains you have committed only 10% but the pot is now 21.5bb. Now if you are to pot bet 22bb and the villain again calls the pot swells up 65.5bb and you only have 68bb remaining behind, you are now pot committed as you or the villain will/can easily shove all the chips into the middle. And it is often a much bigger mistake to fold at this point than it is to call of all our your chip.
Here is an example 5nl
Hero on the button is dealt Ac,Ad w/100bb
Villian UTG w/100bb’s.
UTG min raises to $0.10.
It folds around to you on the button.
You raise to $0.50, the blinds fold, UTG calls.
Flop ($1.07) Hero $4.50, Villian $4.50
7c2dQh
UTG checks, and Hero bets the pot $1.07 villain calls
Turn ($3.21) Hero $3.43, Villian $3.43
Js
Now the reaming stacks are the same size as the pot making not going all in almost impossible barring a very good read on the villains playing tendencies.
Why is it a it a bigger mistake to fold than call of your chips? In order for you to be correct in folding you have to KNOW that you are worse than 2/1 to win the hand, which is the odds (approximate) that you will be getting to stack here. Against most opponents when you add in the probability that the villain is bluffing or calling/shoving a worse hand there will be very few times when you can actually make a correct fold here. I am not saying it is impossible or that you should never fold after putting in 1/3 of your stack but let me be clear you need to have a very compelling reason to do so.
So what is the point of all this. When 10% of your stack or the smaller stack go into the pot you need to understand that a big pot is being built and plan accordingly. Don’t allow yourself to commit 1/3 of you stack and then make a commitment plan. The decision should already be made.
These are just my interpretation of this stuff and the way I apply it, please debate, argue correct at will J
We have all heard the term committed but what does it really mean, and who do we know when we are pot committed.
I am getting a lot of these ideas and words from Professional No Limit Hold’em.
The Commitment threshold is when 10% of the smallest stack goes in the pot.
The Point of Commitment is when 1/3 of smallest stack goes in the pot.
Here is why: if you start with a 100bb stack and put in 10bb (how we get here is irrelevant) and are called there will be 10bb(your raise)+10bb(call by villain)+1.5 bb (blinds) = 21.5bb pot. Your stack is now 90bb as is the villains you have committed only 10% but the pot is now 21.5bb. Now if you are to pot bet 22bb and the villain again calls the pot swells up 65.5bb and you only have 68bb remaining behind, you are now pot committed as you or the villain will/can easily shove all the chips into the middle. And it is often a much bigger mistake to fold at this point than it is to call of all our your chip.
Here is an example 5nl
Hero on the button is dealt Ac,Ad w/100bb
Villian UTG w/100bb’s.
UTG min raises to $0.10.
It folds around to you on the button.
You raise to $0.50, the blinds fold, UTG calls.
Flop ($1.07) Hero $4.50, Villian $4.50
7c2dQh
UTG checks, and Hero bets the pot $1.07 villain calls
Turn ($3.21) Hero $3.43, Villian $3.43
Js
Now the reaming stacks are the same size as the pot making not going all in almost impossible barring a very good read on the villains playing tendencies.
Why is it a it a bigger mistake to fold than call of your chips? In order for you to be correct in folding you have to KNOW that you are worse than 2/1 to win the hand, which is the odds (approximate) that you will be getting to stack here. Against most opponents when you add in the probability that the villain is bluffing or calling/shoving a worse hand there will be very few times when you can actually make a correct fold here. I am not saying it is impossible or that you should never fold after putting in 1/3 of your stack but let me be clear you need to have a very compelling reason to do so.
So what is the point of all this. When 10% of your stack or the smaller stack go into the pot you need to understand that a big pot is being built and plan accordingly. Don’t allow yourself to commit 1/3 of you stack and then make a commitment plan. The decision should already be made.
These are just my interpretation of this stuff and the way I apply it, please debate, argue correct at will J
