The Missing Draw

Nameless14 · Aug 10, 2026

If you have a massive open-ended straight flush draw on the flop but miss completely on the turn, do you keep betting or give up and check?

fundiver199 · Aug 10, 2026

It depends on, how much stack depth is left. If I think, another bet will commonly result in my opponent jamming on me, then I typically check and take a free card. But if stacks are deeper, I typically bet again to try to get some folds and win the pot without having to improve. It also depends, what the board texture is. If the turn card is an overcard, that put pressure on second or third pair, then I am more likely to bet again trying to get such hands to fold. If on the other hand the turn card complete other draws or pair the board, then I am less likely to bet again. Because once again I dont want to bet and risk getting raised, if my opponent just made a straight or trips or even a full house, so that I am now drawing dead.

Sintubai · Aug 10, 2026

Looking strictly at the question, my answer reflects what I’d like to do: I’d keep betting the nut flush draw of course! Double-barrel on the turn 4eva! lol
But a question like this depends on whether we’re playing a tournament or a cash game, our stack sizes, the opponents, and our position... We need some basic information to evaluate whether it’s better to keep betting or to check in that situation... Poker isn't a recipe where the answers are set in stone.

Semprini · Aug 10, 2026

Nameless14 said:
If you have a massive open-ended straight flush draw on the flop but miss completely on the turn, do you keep betting or give up and check?

What do you mean massive? Are some open-ended draws bigger than others? Open-ended is open-ended, no?

To answer the question though, it depends on other factors. If I'm the PFR in position I am probably barrelling this all day, but of course it might matter who Villain is or the chances of a flush going on. Fish will 100% call us down with 2-pair here so if it comes in we can stack!! Plus, if there is a flush draw and that also busts on river, we can bluff the hell out of this since our 3 street barreling says value! value! value! and fish was likely hanging on with flush or straight draw himself.

If I'm out of position and I'm the PFR I will often blocker bet this for pot control and if I get called decide whether to barrel or not on turn.

If I'm out of position and NOT PFR I am not likely to donk unless stacks or exploitable Villain tendencies say otherwise.

monkeytilter · Aug 10, 2026

Semprini said:
What do you mean massive? Are some open-ended draws bigger than others? Open-ended is open-ended, no?

To answer the question though, it depends on other factors. If I'm the PFR in position I am probably barrelling this all day, but of course it might matter who Villain is or the chances of a flush going on. Fish will 100% call us down with 2-pair here so if it comes in we can stack!! Plus, if there is a flush draw and that also busts on river, we can bluff the hell out of this since our 3 street barreling says value! value! value! and fish was likely hanging on with flush or straight draw himself.

If I'm out of position and I'm the PFR I will often blocker bet this for pot control and if I get called decide whether to barrel or not on turn.

If I'm out of position and NOT PFR I am not likely to donk unless stacks or exploitable Villain tendencies say otherwise.

They are talking about an open-ended straight flush draw (which they are describing as a "massive" draw).
Does this this change your strategy? ..or do you play it the same as an open ended straight draw.

How do you feel if your OOP "blocker" bet gets reraised big for example with the OESFD?

One distinction that needs to be made here is play in cash games vs tournaments, which OP may not have considered.
We play more aggressively in cash games taking slimmer edges, so tend to "get it in" with high equity hands (like big draws) a lot more often.

Semprini · Aug 10, 2026

monkeytilter said:
They are talking about an open-ended straight flush draw (which they are describing as a "massive" draw).

Oh, you're right. I misread.

Jeez, straight-flush draw. 2 outs. Well, we also have an open-ended straight draw and a flush draw, the lovely 15-outer, so my mindset would be the same, although my excitement would be higher.

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