This is never a bluff right!?

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Well phuck. Put myself in a blender here. Is this ever a bluff?
 

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  • #2
could be . just as likely split pot with the last king.
Either last then or last king. I think these are the only options. The latter would be a semi bluff I suppose. But if he put you on a Kx he is trying to represent the ten
 
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Tough to say, couldnt enlarge the screenshot to see what the original pre-flop bet was,my money is going in, mostly because I dont believe most people:)
 
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G0930 said:
could be . just as likely split pot with the last king.
Either last then or last king. I think these are the only options. The latter would be a semi bluff I suppose. But if he put you on a Kx he is trying to represent the ten
I just don't understand why it would be a bluff. Like what is he representing. Like you said it's either a chop or at best he has a ten in his range.

Is this considered a polarized range?

If he did put me on a K why would I ever fold King here? Actually what would have given him the idea of me having a king here? I literally unrepresented my hand like a fish. Min open then check on the flop. I am not that good with polarized bets but I don't think that's how you bet your hand...

If he did have a value. What would I be calling with as a bluff catcher with the overbet to like 40bb of a 15bb pot. I just don't understand it.
 
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frank174 said:
Tough to say, couldnt enlarge the screenshot to see what the original pre-flop bet was,my money is going in, mostly because I dont believe most people:)
Only a min 120 in 60pot
 
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Kirbs69 said:
I just don't understand why it would be a bluff. Like what is he representing. Like you said it's either a chop or at best he has a ten in his range.

Is this considered a polarized range?

If he did put me on a K why would I ever fold King here? Actually what would have given him the idea of me having a king here? I literally unrepresented my hand like a fish. Min open then check on the flop. I am not that good with polarized bets but I don't think that's how you bet your hand...

If he did have a value. What would I be calling with as a bluff catcher with the overbet to like 40bb of a 15bb pot. I just don't understand it.
it is confusing yes. Some people also play completely random without any system whatsoever. That could also be the case.

Oor his intent was to confuse you . I've seen some psychogames in 17 years of playing poker also :D
 
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I find these kinds of players who like to bet 1bb are often pretty weak. However what they show up with can be pretty varied. Its often a bet to try and stop other players putting them to a decision. So like maybe he has JJ and doesn't want to be facing a bet on that board....but it ca also be the absolute monster hand....like having the T. He's small betting to keep playersin the hand, then hits his miracle on the river and bets all of it?

In this particular case he could be bluffing with a hand like 99 or JJ and has just decided not to believe you have it.....but I'm leaning towards him having the T
 
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full house is not a bluff, its bad luck if you lose
 
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It's a freeroll, all kinds of silly plays going on including trying to blast you and other off a chop as the board plays (or worse they have a pair for "a full-house").
Any kind of read on villain would make this a lot easier either way, as it is call it off and give them the nh if they have the case 10.
 
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It's always a bluff, no matter what. If you don't know what it is, it's a bluff :)
 
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i think he has 2 Aces...:unsure:
 
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with a VPIP of 100, anything is possible
 
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If you decide to slowplay and just call their silly small bets and raises on the turn, then the river is a trivial call. He could have the last K, so that its a chop, he could have pocket aces and not know, what to do, or he could be bluffing trying to get two opponents off a chop. There are no situations in poker, where "its never a bluff" as in literally never. Sometimes he will have quads, and in that case good for him.
 
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It's a freebuy. People will punt with any 2.

Bluff 95% of the time. But based on the fact you are making a thread about it, this is probably the other 5%.
 
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SpanRmonka said:
I find these kinds of players who like to bet 1bb are often pretty weak. However what they show up with can be pretty varied. Its often a bet to try and stop other players putting them to a decision. So like maybe he has JJ and doesn't want to be facing a bet on that board....but it ca also be the absolute monster hand....like having the T. He's small betting to keep playersin the hand, then hits his miracle on the river and bets all of it?

In this particular case he could be bluffing with a hand like 99 or JJ and has just decided not to believe you have it.....but I'm leaning towards him having the T
That doesn't make sense either. JJ and 99 are 3bets. 99 is close to a call.
 
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  • #16
Your hand is too strong to fold anyway.
Probably a chop unless he has AA. If you lose to quads, so be it.
 
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steve01991 said:
full house is not a bluff, its bad luck if you lose
So you're saying he has a ten? Then what am I calling with as a bluff catcher then?

I'm asking because what value can he get from me. I'm folding everything but the ten right?...
 
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Rost said:
It's always a bluff, no matter what. If you don't know what it is, it's a bluff :)
Or the nuts lulz
 
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Silversurfer99 said:
i think he has 2 Aces...:unsure:
Oh hell naw lmao. Why would he only call a min with aces...
 
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puzzlefish said:
with a VPIP of 100, anything is possible
I didn't even realize he had 100vpip lmao
 
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fundiver199 said:
If you decide to slowplay and just call their silly small bets and raises on the turn, then the river is a trivial call. He could have the last K, so that its a chop, he could have pocket aces and not know, what to do, or he could be bluffing trying to get two opponents off a chop. There are no situations in poker, where "its never a bluff" as in literally never. Sometimes he will have quads, and in that case good for him.
Huh? So there is always a bluff? I don't understand what you just said. Why would he have aces in this spot? He called my min raise in position with aces you say? I guess he can call with it. But a min raise tho?

If people would be bluffing. What r his bluffs then.

Blowing 2 people of a chop is where I am stuck at. In a strategic process, what logic would that be. Like I don't understand the thought process of bluffing people off a chop in this board dynamic.
 
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It's a freebuy. People will punt with any 2.

Bluff 95% of the time. But based on the fact you are making a thread about it, this is probably the other 5%.
So it was just a punt? As in just random 2 cards? If it wasn't. What would be the normal bluffs here. People was saying aces could be jacks and nines. But they're all 3bet in position against a open min. I think so anyway.
 
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najisami said:
Your hand is too strong to fold anyway.
Probably a chop unless he has AA. If you lose to quads, so be it.
Why people keep saying unless he has AA. This was an open min 3 handed. How would anyone have aces here.
 
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This is unrelated. I haven't played a single hand but this. They still bluff me.

Made the hero call. Dude called me a donkey still.
 

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