MrSticker said:
Probably look and feel more than anything. I think the PT3 interface is just so much cleaner and better laid out than HEM. I actually used HEM for about a month when PT3 was still buggy and constantly crashing but as soon as they fixed the crashes I went right back and haven't actually played a session with HEM since.
It's definitely a preference thing because I think that right now HEM is ahead in features (although I'm not sure how their tourney support stacks up because I haven't used it). When people ask about software I always encourage them to take advantage of both trials before they buy either.
I think that by releasing a bug infested POS the guys at PT3 really hurt themselves with a lot of players. Most just went to HEM and never looked back and now HEM is what they're used to. I'm just one who never got used to HEM and went back to PT3 as soon as they fixed the major issues.
dg1267 said:
I doubt it was me (although I used to have my own before I got PT), maybe you're thinking of this: https://www.cardschat.com/f49/sit-go-statistic-spreadsheet-you-might-79447/ ???
You guys were talking about shortstackers and position a little bit back. You really do want them on your right, not immediate right, since that's a really profitable seat for us, but two or three seats to your right is good, they're out of the way, and we usually have position on them for their preflop play.
I think you made an erroneous assessment of their shove range as well. A shortstack's shoving range starts out something like: {77+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs} Now, this is only about 8% of total hands, so yes it's tight.
But here's the thing, they have a brain. If you're stealing a lot, they're going to know this, and their range is about to widen. And when their range widens, it means you're getting shoved on for a bet you simply cannot call. When a full stacked player decides to start defending light, you have the option of playing a pot in position, and seeing how they react in postflop play, since you have some implied odds (not that it's necessarily the best choice). With a shortstack it's either shove the money in or fold.
It's going to basically force a whole lot of grief for not much benefit, and that's why it's much simpler to simply have them out of the picture and on the right.
I think you made an erroneous assessment of their shove range as well. A shortstack's shoving range starts out something like: {77+, AJo+, ATs+, KQs} Now, this is only about 8% of total hands, so yes it's tight.
But here's the thing, they have a brain. If you're stealing a lot, they're going to know this, and their range is about to widen. And when their range widens, it means you're getting shoved on for a bet you simply cannot call. When a full stacked player decides to start defending light, you have the option of playing a pot in position, and seeing how they react in postflop play, since you have some implied odds (not that it's necessarily the best choice). With a shortstack it's either shove the money in or fold.
It's going to basically force a whole lot of grief for not much benefit, and that's why it's much simpler to simply have them out of the picture and on the right.
I'm using pt3 and never had any problems with it, i never tried the free trial of hem though, kinda wish i did, if only because everyone gets quite excited whenever its mentioned, but pt3 is doing me just fine, tells me everything i want to know.
Maybe further down the line i might need to know different things that hem would've told me but theres not much i can do about it, except move my roll to titan and get a free hem lol but the stars 5nl tables are proving to be a walk in the park so i aint moving anywhere for now 🙂
Big thanks to bob_tiger and zachvac as well by the way, some awesome advice on c-betting, both replys have been saved to my computer for future reference.
Bob, with regards to "but you are either playing too many hands and giving up too easily, or you are not going to showdown often enough" below are my stats over my first 5k hands, see what you guys think 🙂
Maybe further down the line i might need to know different things that hem would've told me but theres not much i can do about it, except move my roll to titan and get a free hem lol but the stars 5nl tables are proving to be a walk in the park so i aint moving anywhere for now 🙂
Big thanks to bob_tiger and zachvac as well by the way, some awesome advice on c-betting, both replys have been saved to my computer for future reference.
Bob, with regards to "but you are either playing too many hands and giving up too easily, or you are not going to showdown often enough" below are my stats over my first 5k hands, see what you guys think 🙂
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I have lost 2 buyins today playing the bottom end of a straight draw.. both times I have hit and both I have lost to a higher straight.
Both times the higher straight contained an ace.
Im thinking of not playing for the bottom end of a high straight because too many people play AK, AQ, AJ ... they wont fold out preflop and will never let go once the draw is on.
However Im still thinking of playing the lower end of lower straights because this should mean that im less likely to be up against the higher end.
What do you guys think?
Incidentally... I cant really see anyway of getting away from the hand once the decision has been made to play it.. Im trying to get money in and not frighten my opponent away.. but when im beat thats what my opponent is doing.. the pot is too big to fold once it becomes apparent that I might be beat.
Another way in looking at it is ... I think id loose more in the LR by folding than shoving here.. do you agree?
Thanks
Both times the higher straight contained an ace.
Im thinking of not playing for the bottom end of a high straight because too many people play AK, AQ, AJ ... they wont fold out preflop and will never let go once the draw is on.
However Im still thinking of playing the lower end of lower straights because this should mean that im less likely to be up against the higher end.
What do you guys think?
Incidentally... I cant really see anyway of getting away from the hand once the decision has been made to play it.. Im trying to get money in and not frighten my opponent away.. but when im beat thats what my opponent is doing.. the pot is too big to fold once it becomes apparent that I might be beat.
Another way in looking at it is ... I think id loose more in the LR by folding than shoving here.. do you agree?
Thanks
orangepeeleo said:
I'm no stat genius and perhaps you might want to make your own thread and have guys that know more about stats than me take a look, but few things I do notice, I don't know how much different 5nl is but I don't think you are 3 betting enough, I mean sure enough there has to be some fish to your right that keeps raising and you can 3 bet with mediocre every once in a while. Also from your vpip stat, I think your attempt to steal is a little low and you are limping too much. Also the C-bet one is also a tad bit high, unless everyone at 5nl just gives up constantly and that could be the case so I don't know. And last but not least I think you are giving up a little too much unimproved and need to work on that too.
For what my opinion is worth, his cbet % is a good range. Mine is between 80%-85%. Not that I am playing well and I don't really know if that is a good range. But at the micro's people fold a lot on flop. And I mean a lot !
You can be called on your steal attempt and take it down 75% of the time easily I think.
Anyways better players than me will comment 🙂.
You can be called on your steal attempt and take it down 75% of the time easily I think.
Anyways better players than me will comment 🙂.
How many of those articles have been written? I started outlining and researching the one I was given and after an hour my head exploded. Sorry, if I can't type it off the top of my head its not happening. There's a reason I dropped out of school.
D'wilius said:
Why don't you just spew out what ever comes off the top of your head and then we can cuss it and discuss it? That is what I did and got some great guidance by players much better than me about the importance of stealing.
As far as I can tell none have been done though Feitr did a good post about ranges I believe.
