**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

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D'wilius said:
I'm using the free (voluntary donation) Realtime for now, think Sindri and dg do too. Its from the maker of HEM and he can credit a donation up to $20 to the purchase of HEM when you want to upgrade.

I find myself playing 5nl, though I'm overrolled for 10nl :dong:. Want to move up to 25nl, but losing stacks bigger than that would make me sick to my stomach :s: In other words, I should be a regular in this section for quite a while 🙄.
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I need to be mor elike this instead of taking shots at 25nl with 15 BIs 😱
 
Jurn8 said:
what about if your the PFR with 88 in hijack and you get 3bet from button both are 100BBs deep. Is set mining profitable when 3bet?
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Nope (assuming he doesn't make some min 3bet). I'd fold it almost always, especially OOP.
 
Jagsti said:
You guys wanna start looking at some topics of discussion. Like make a list of topics, then someone gets allocated (or volunteer's) to researcha subject. After a week or so you come back here and make a post about it.

It will give you guys a goal to expand your knowledge.

Topics could be something like:

Mathematics of setmining/suited cons
SPR
Hand Ranges and how we use them
Fold Equity
Pot Odds
Equity
Implied odds
Reverse Implied Odds

Thre's a multitude of topics available and the list can be as complicated/simple as you like, but it will get you guys thinking more about important stuff and not just looking at your 2 cards.
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How about we just make a post like about a concept like this a tradition once you move up from 25NL or something? It'd add a lot of good basic content to the forum. Kinda like Poohbah posts on that "other forum" but more basic.
 
Jurn8 said:
Also everybody slowplays at 25NL so going to have to watch that.

lol dont get how I keep losing money without losing big pots, maybe its just the fact steals get called and cbets then thats $3 so over a few tables thats like a buy in. Not sure anyway have to see and maybe have some work done on that.
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From my semi-limited experience at 25nl I've found that being 10nl-aggro doesn't work that well really. Don't really know what it is. Probably just the general level of play being better.

Stick mentioned that his tight semi-passive play style worked really well at 25nl so maybe that is something you can look into.

Jurn8 said:
Yeah thats a sweet idea Jay, who would be down for doing this ??
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In too. If I get to choose, I'd pick SPR since I have absolutely no clue what it's supposed to be 😛.
 
c9h13no3 said:
How about we just make a post like about a concept like this a tradition once you move up from 25NL or something? It'd add a lot of good basic content to the forum. Kinda like Poohbah posts on that "other forum" but more basic.
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Why wait till you move up from 25NL ?
Since the majority of the players here are at 10nl and only a smallish number at 25nl or on the verge of moving up ?

It's not like it's too early to learn right, even if it's not always applicable at 10nl and below.
 
eNTy said:
Why wait till you move up from 25NL ?
Since the majority of the players here are at 10nl and only a smallish number at 25nl or on the verge of moving up ?

It's not like it's too early to learn right, even if it's not always applicable at 10nl and below.
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I agree, I like the idea of learning the higher concepts now while they might not play all the time, at least when we do get to a level where they are used we can transition slightly easier than if we were hearing the idea for the first time, or seeing a new line.

Im going to work on an equity post which will probably have Fold equity heavily involved from what i do understand now.


Also, anyone tried Table Ninja? Its a program to make multitabling easier. Still in beta for now so its free, but i started using it last night and i like it alot. Makes betsizing alot simpler at 10nl where the bets are alot more constant and less situational. Plus it basically replaces ALL of the AHK scripts that most ppl use.

some other try it out and put some feedback in here too. I'll probably make a separate post about it later today.

TableNinja
 
Im going to work on an equity post which will probably have Fold equity heavily involved from what i do understand now.
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This would be great. I think this is one of my biggest issues right now. It takes me so long to work out the other stuff that I rarely throw this into the mix.
 
All right, I am late to this post am currently playing 5nl. I was hoping to be able to take shots at 10nl by the end of next month but that isn't going to happen.

I would to work out a sweat session if anyone is interested.
 
Steveg1976 said:
All right, I am late to this post am currently playing 5nl. I was hoping to be able to take shots at 10nl by the end of next month but that isn't going to happen.

I would to work out a sweat session if anyone is interested.
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I be happy to do a sweat with u. Im open later tonight if u whant.
PM with aim/msn info and stuff if you whant.
 
Steveg1976 said:
All right, I am late to this post am currently playing 5nl. I was hoping to be able to take shots at 10nl by the end of next month but that isn't going to happen.

I would to work out a sweat session if anyone is interested.
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Ill do one too, are you playin fr or 6max?

sindri_93 said:
Im open later tonight if u want
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if he doesnt i wouldnt mind sweating you or the other way around. i've seen you around the tables a couple times but your usually sitting across from me and we havent tangled i dont think.

aim is deltafrost03
 
Feeling much more comfortable at 25NL now, only put 750 hands in today but I have cut my tables to 4 and really trying to focus on making correct decisions and reads which has work out sweet. Also seen some really bad play today here a some of the hands I thought were horrible and made a nice read with AQ, ended up +2 BI's

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I shove because I am not letting the UTG guy set mine so I shove, think this is the correct move here. A7 horrible player.
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (MP1): $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $23 (92 bb)
MP3: $32.75 (131 bb)
CO: $8.25 (33 bb)
BTN: $4.30 (17.2 bb)
SB: $44.45 (177.8 bb)
BB: $38.35 (153.4 bb)
UTG: $24.50 (98 bb)
UTG+1: $13.85 (55.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with A:club: A:diamond:
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $3.50, 6 folds, UTG calls $3.25, UTG+1 raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $25 and is all-in, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $7.35 and is all-in

Flop: ($31.55) 3:heart: Q:diamond: T:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($31.55) 3:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($31.55) J:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:[spoil] $31.55 pot ($1.55 rake)
UTG+1 showed 7:club: A:spade: (a pair of Threes) and lost (-$13.85 net)
Hero showed A:club: A:diamond: (two pairs, Aces and Threes) and won $30 ($16.15 net)
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Villian is a 33/17/1 only over 20 hands but I knew he would have a weaker ace or would be on a draw so i get him in on the turn.
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $25 (100 bb)
SB: $36.40 (145.6 bb)
BB: $15.80 (63.2 bb)
MP1: $7.95 (31.8 bb)
MP2: $25.45 (101.8 bb)
MP3: $13.10 (52.4 bb)
CO: $5.35 (21.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with A:spade: Q:diamond:
MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1

Flop: ($2.85) A:diamond: 9:club: T:heart: (2 players)
MP1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, MP1 calls $2

Turn: ($8.85) K:spade: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $3.70 and is all-in

River: ($16.25) 8:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $16.25 pot ($0.75 rake)
MP1 showed J:club: K:heart: (a pair of Kings) and lost (-$7.95 net)
Hero showed A:spade: Q:diamond: (a pair of Aces) and won $15.50 ($7.55 net)
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Nice Pot for my flopped full house and an ideal hand to get a stack with QQ>AA
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Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $32 (128 bb)
CO: $29.85 (119.4 bb)
BTN: $3.35 (13.4 bb)
SB: $19.30 (77.2 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $27.10 (108.4 bb)
MP1: $38.80 (155.2 bb)
Hero (MP2): $25 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with Q:diamond: Q:spade:
UTG+1 raises to $1, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $2

Flop: ($6.35) 3:club: Q:club: 3:diamond: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.50, UTG+1 raises to $8.75, Hero raises to $22 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $13.25

Turn: ($50.35) 2:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.35) K:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $50.35 pot ($2.50 rake)
UTG+1 showed A:diamond: A:spade: (two pairs, Aces and Threes) and lost (-$25 net)
Hero showed Q:diamond: Q:spade: (a full house, Queens full of Threes) and won $47.85 ($22.85 net)
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I feel much more confident now at 25NL and look forward to playing again later. Im being abit more aggressive than I was when I first moved up because I have settled down abit now!

Hope everybodys doing good.
 
Sindri if you ever want me to sweat you on 25nl, since I think you're playing that now right, just hit me up man. Throw me a pm on here and we can sort out aim/msn.
 
Glad things are working out Jake. On your first hand, you don't have to shove to deny set mining odds (he's not getting them anyway), but the shove is fine and I assume you'd do the same with AK, so it helps that you do it with AA/KK occasionally as well.
 
eNTy said:
Sindri if you ever want me to sweat you on 25nl, since I think you're playing that now right, just hit me up man. Throw me a pm on here and we can sort out aim/msn.
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Still at 10NL but moving up in the coming days 🙂.
I will hit u up on MSN and we will sort some thing out.
 
I didn't see limp/calling in the list of topics, but I know how big of a problem this is at these stakes first hand.

This
 
WVHillbilly said:
Glad things are working out Jake. On your first hand, you don't have to shove to deny set mining odds (he's not getting them anyway), but the shove is fine and I assume you'd do the same with AK, so it helps that you do it with AA/KK occasionally as well.
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WV im going to be honest with you no I wouldnt do it with AK! I really dont know how to play this hand. You seem to be able to pick spots when to play AK well and are you successful with it?

do you have msn, be cool to chat with you about how to play AK? Im going to read AJacksons post on it ina bit
 
well... spanish translations blow... 0 hands so far today so time to switch that around.

Game time imo!
 
Jurn8 said:
WV im going to be honest with you no I wouldnt do it with AK! I really dont know how to play this hand. You seem to be able to pick spots when to play AK well and are you successful with it?

do you have msn, be cool to chat with you about how to play AK? Im going to read AJacksons post on it ina bit
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Be careful with AJ's post, that's mainly targetted at 6max.

Regards to FR. I hated getting it aipf as I found most TAGS ranges for pushing pf is like QQ+.

I think it's a personal style thing in FR, some will push pf w/AK, as WV mentioned, as it balances our play for when we want to push PF with AA/KK.
 
Jagsti said:
Be careful with AJ's post, that's mainly targetted at 6max.

Regards to FR. I hated getting it aipf as I found most TAGS ranges for pushing pf is like QQ+.

I think it's a personal style thing in FR, some will push pf w/AK, as WV mentioned, as it balances our play for when we want to push PF with AA/KK.
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Don't be a huge nit like Jay 😛 and just stick it in there. Yeah, you're flipping a lot of the time but I think, especially up through 25nl, shoving with AK in these types of spots is +EV.

If they do call with QQ just learn to hit and Ace or King, ldo! 🙂
 
WVHillbilly said:
Don't be a huge nit like Jay 😛 and just stick it in there. Yeah, you're flipping a lot of the time but I think, especially up through 25nl, shoving with AK in these types of spots is +EV.

If they do call with QQ just learn to hit and Ace or King, ldo! 🙂
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Jagsti said:
Be careful with AJ's post, that's mainly targetted at 6max.

Regards to FR. I hated getting it aipf as I found most TAGS ranges for pushing pf is like QQ+.

I think it's a personal style thing in FR, some will push pf w/AK, as WV mentioned, as it balances our play for when we want to push PF with AA/KK.
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Ok Hmm I dont have a clue how to play AK tbh so I will have to research it or chat about it with others. Interesting though how you to vary opinions on it!
 
Read the article because it's still a great piece. It just has to be used a little bit more cautiously with FR imo, and it's only my opinion.
 
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