**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

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I'd do a revision on 3betting light, wa/wb, stealing from LP, c-betting as well.
 
tenbob said:
I'd do a revision on 3betting light, wa/wb, stealing from LP, c-betting as well.

yeah nice ideas with stealing and cbetting. Never looked in to 3betting light and whats wa/wb?

Be awesome if you could do a revision for us liam cheers.
 
this micro section is some great stuff your help is greatly appreciated even if we dont tell you all very often.

.was wondering if in this section could also include information about poker software. also suggest what and if poker software we should be using and what level we should use it for ive done several serches. some are outdated and some are just to confusing for someone who has never used them.
some questions.

1 do we need software at these levels
a.micro i table
b. mtt tourneys
c recreational players
2 what difterent software is allowed and available
3 are they worth the price at these levels
4 are they easy or difficult to set up
5 should this be in a difterent section
 
pifan said:
this micro section is some great stuff your help is greatly appreciated even if we dont tell you all very often.

.was wondering if in this section could also include information about poker software. also suggest what and if poker software we should be using and what level we should use it for ive done several serches. some are outdated and some are just to confusing for someone who has never used them.
some questions.

1 do we need software at these levels
a.micro i table
b. mtt tourneys
c recreational players
2 what difterent software is allowed and available
3 are they worth the price at these levels
4 are they easy or difficult to set up
5 should this be in a difterent section

My answer would be HEM/PT3 ($55-$85/$100), and Pokerstove (free).

For HEM (which is what I use), your question #1 can be answered like this.

a. definitely
b. not so much
c. definitely

With a & c you can easily pick out the fish from the ones who are really trying. And with the right stat setup, you can almost turn the fishes hands right side up. I'm still working on that though.

With b you just see too many people to really make it that useful, although after a couple of months you'd have a really nice database that would start to make most decisions easier.

HEM small stakes version is def worth your money at even these levels. If it makes you a dollar a day it pays for itself in under two months.
 
D'Wilius are you telling me you're the schoolyard bully my mommy always warned me about 😱

Oh and I'll do the mathematics of set mining/suiting conn's
 
Sign me up for research write up. I can do whatever nobody else wants to.

Would it be worthwhle to discuss books that have helped and hurt us for this level? For example, I have read a few books and could make some suggestions if others are looking for specific stuff. AG's book post in the Golden Archives was great (that is where I started) but maybe we can talk about specific concepts and where to best learn them?
 
Lemlywinks said:
D'Wilius are you telling me you're the schoolyard bully my mommy always warned me about 😱

Oh and I'll do the mathematics of set mining/suiting conn's

Yep, that's me 🙄. I was looking at that one. Set odds will be straight forward enough, but suited connector is interesting to talk about odds, because they're rarely flopping a made hand, so you either have to chase the draw, lead with semibluff, or raise allin...and then we're into equity and fold equity. 😀
 
The way I look at tools like HEM and PT3 is that they are essential tools if you ever want to take the game seriously. Back when I was playing $5 sit and go's I bought pokertracker, and the HUD, even though it was a large % of my roll then.

Having the ability to see your own leaks, watch your progress as a player, get databases on your oppenents is very valuable, and gives you a significant edge against the rest of the micro players.
 
are pokertracker and hem and hud the same thing or does each do something difterent

could someone explain what some of this software acually does and is there a link thru cc
 
PT and HEM, do practically the same thing. Both of them have a HUD which shows you stats at the table while playing. Here's a link to a free one...http://www.holdemranger.com/realtime.html HEM and PT can do much more though, they track more stats and you can break them down by position, starting hands, levels etc. All the graphs you see of ring earnings come from a program like that.
 
pifan said:
are pokertracker and hem and hud the same thing or does each do something difterent

could someone explain what some of this software acually does and is there a link thru cc
HEM is holdem manager and it comes with a HUD(heads up display),but its also a great analysis tool cause u can see how much $ each hand makes u,from each postion ect.So its great tool to spot leaks in you game
Pokertracker does the same thing but i think(correct me if im wrong) that u have buy the HUD sepratly.

Then there plenty of smallar trackers/huds out there.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/pokertracker-reference-thread-99765/
 
so if im understading correctly these software keep track of the way apponents limp raise reraise what position they do it at how often they do it how much money you make in each position

do they also keep track of myself (assuming im the one with the software) do they keep track of how someone protects there blinds bb and sb

and do they keep track from session to session like we play each other quite allot on this site withth buy ins and frolls

does everyone who has software have records of my play if so what are my numbers and what do they maen

fish donkey \

also do they keep track from sight to sight
 
sindri_93 said:
HEM is holdem manager and it comes with a HUD(heads up display),but its also a great analysis tool cause u can see how much $ each hand makes u,from each postion ect.So its great tool to spot leaks in you game
Pokertracker does the same thing but i think(correct me if im wrong) that u have buy the HUD sepratly.

Then there plenty of smallar trackers/huds out there.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/pokertracker-reference-thread-99765/

Not since the release of PT3. The HUD is now included. I would recommend anyone try both before making a purchase. Most people prefer one or the other even though they do all the same basic things.
 
Jumping in the Mix

Hey guys!, was a little delayed in noticing this thread (which by the way has been the best thread for me personally I've read so far on here). But i'm a 10NL and 25NL FR player, been back and forth trying to make the permanent jump to 25NL. Definitely would be interested in some sweat sessions for sure, PM me if anyone is interested!~
 
does everyone who has software have records of my play
if so what are my numbers and what do they maen

fish donkey \

also do they keep track from sight to sight

Yes, if they have a HUD, they are keeping your stats. Either of these programs allow you to look up individual players and see their stats, their opening ranges and such.

And they do keep track of most sites. I know carbon doesn't get tracked yet (correct me if I'm wrong, I would love to find a hand grabber out there). But most of the larger sites like UB, FT, PS all get tracked after you set it up for that site.
 
Correct Carbon is still a black hole as far as software is concerned. Only thing which works there is tournament indicator for mtt's and sng.🙁
 
Alright, I can't play enough tables without a HUD to earn points playing 10nl so I'm dl'ing HEM again. I got the trial before but never used it because I couldn't get the Postgre sorted out...so I don't know if I'll be able to use the trial now or not.

I see U.B is still listed as a purchase method, I thought someone told me they weren't accepting U.B $ when he wanted to buy it a couple months ago. Making a transfer shouldn't affect my bonus dollars should it?
 
D'wilius said:
Alright, I can't play enough tables without a HUD to earn points playing 10nl so I'm dl'ing HEM again. I got the trial before but never used it because I couldn't get the Postgre sorted out...so I don't know if I'll be able to use the trial now or not.

I see U.B is still listed as a purchase method, I thought someone told me they weren't accepting U.B $ when he wanted to buy it a couple months ago. Making a transfer shouldn't affect my bonus dollars should it?

I don't think you'll be able to do the trial again. I tried to clean it off my system and I could never find the folder they put on there.

As far as the BD go, I think you'll be alright.
 
D'wilius said:
Alright, I can't play enough tables without a HUD to earn points playing 10nl so I'm dl'ing HEM again. I got the trial before but never used it because I couldn't get the Postgre sorted out...so I don't know if I'll be able to use the trial now or not.

I see U.B is still listed as a purchase method, I thought someone told me they weren't accepting U.B $ when he wanted to buy it a couple months ago. Making a transfer shouldn't affect my bonus dollars should it?

PT3's trial was 60 days, I don't know if it is anymore though. You can download a trial with or withouth SQL.
 
Yeah, I used the PT trial end of last year, I want to get HEM because I can pay for it with site money, I don't use credit cards online. Plus it is only $55 instead of $90. Really just hoping the trial works so I know I can get it working, but dg is probably right.
 
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If you have trouble doing the trial again just email their support and explain that you couldn't get it to work the 1st time. I'm sure they help you figure it out and extend the trail so you can try it.
 
D'wilius said:
Yeah, I used the PT trial end of last year, I want to get HEM because I can pay for it with site money, I don't use credit cards online. Plus it is only $55 instead of $90.

If you already used PT3 then you should have the database necessary to run HEM just let it configure itself. I understand about the $55.00 that I why I bought it instead of PT3 myself 🙂
 
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