**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

  • Thread starter Thread starter Jurn8
  • Start date Start date
Jurn8 said:
23/7.2 = 3.194 @ FR

What does this mean ??

Also FR players whats your aggro factor on the button and cutoff, me thinks I am not being aggro enough.

Mine are BTN = 1.83 and CO = 1.72
Click to expand...

Mine are BTN = 3.12 CO = 2.74 and interestingly HJ = 3.73 , I'm just a big bully lol @ 5nl though the players are generally quite punishable from late position, cbets work a huge percentage of the time so this could be why my AF is higher than yours, i'm cbetting most flops at the minute purely because they're taking down the pot 90% of the time.

Thanks for the comments on the blog as well jurn, I'm getting excited about being close to moving up to 10nl but don't get me wrong i'm not moving up til i get to $250, incase you were thinking i was going to move up sooner, i know how important being properly rolled is nowadays and i wouldnt risk moving up sooner than that, theres no need, it's only a matter of time before i get to $250 at 5nl so it's just a matter of having the patience to wait until then.
 
Mine are : 2.51 (btn 25.1 / early 10.0) but only over 2600 hands, since I don't have access to my full database which is on my pc which is broken.

BTN AF: 3.1
CO AF: 4.2
Total AF: 4.54
 
Trying to catch up on this thread... some good stuff in here.

To me it all depends and I seem to be settling into a style kinda long the lines of tenbob I think with a bit higher gap in VPIP and PFR (17/11, 18/12 ish)

It seems to be working for me.

As far as steal%, agg factor etc... God it so depends on the table. I'd play a 0.5 AF on one table and a 6.0 AF on another.
 
I would also agree that most micro players don't steal often enough from the button...let alone the cut off.

If you have a nit on your left, you can almost treat the CO as if it were a 2nd button as far as stealing goes.

As Ed Miller put it... the first rule for stealing on micro tables is: "Do it until they stop you."
 
Tygran said:
I would also agree that most micro players don't steal often enough from the button...let alone the cut off.

If you have a nit on your left, you can almost treat the CO as if it were a 2nd button as far as stealing goes.

As Ed Miller put it... the first rule for stealing on micro tables is: "Do it until they stop you."
Click to expand...


Another good money maker is 3 betting from the small blind if you have either a passive/donkey button that is trying a steal. Raise 3x his bet and just don't try it if there are more than 1 caller unless you have a real hand.
 
Anybody any ideas about a 25NL prop bet? Only a 1 buy in bet I think that will be a perfect amount.

How about most profit 30k hands min ? or min 30k hands min winrate of 2.5BB?

Im not really sure any ideas anyway?
 
Just so you guys know, AF is post-flop aggression, so it should be compared with vp$ip as well. A 2/2 would be expected to have a huge aggression factor because all their hands are premiums. An 80/40 would be expected to have much lower even if they are spewing with crap much worse than the 2/2 guy. Hopefully you guys are somewhere in between the two 😛.
 
Jurn8 said:
Anybody any ideas about a 25NL prop bet? Only a 1 buy in bet I think that will be a perfect amount.

How about most profit 30k hands min ? or min 30k hands min winrate of 2.5BB?

Im not really sure any ideas anyway?
Click to expand...

If my pc gets fixed before March ends (should be) I'm down for min 30k hands most profit bet.
 
[ ] plays 25NL
[x] wishes he played 25NL
[x] would still lose prop bet if he did play 25 NL
 
dg1267 said:
[ ] plays 25NL
[x] wishes he played 25NL
[x] would still lose prop bet if he did play 25 NL
Click to expand...

[x] would make lots more money from playing 25nl than from losing prop bet

🙂

Just grind 10nl for a month or so, maybe coupled with a bonus somewhere or rakeback and ur rolled for 25nl combined with ur tourny winnings.
 
I was interested in some sort of prop bet to get myself to only grind ring without playing anything else..I am a bit weary of a most profit bet, any other ideas?
 
The Shrog said:
I was interested in some sort of prop bet to get myself to only grind ring without playing anything else..I am a bit weary of a most profit bet, any other ideas?
Click to expand...

It's either amount of hands or profit/winrate (or bankroll mark which is profit as well).

There really aren't any other prop bets I think 🙂.
 
Alright maybe Ill just not be included and try challenging myself with a higher volume month.
 
The Shrog said:
Alright maybe Ill just not be included and try challenging myself with a higher volume month.
Click to expand...

If the monetary gain is not that important you can make a seperate propbet for most hands played with someone on the side maybe ?

Although I'd watch out as you don't want the grinding to mess with your game. Probably best to keep improving your game as your #1 goal and not thinking so much about hands played and money won.

I just had another thought. You could make a public announcement that everyone who posts proof of you playing ANYTHING besides 25nl in the month gets a $$ prize 🙂.

I'm sure the FRW's woulds love tht.
 
Although I'd watch out as you don't want the grinding to mess with your game. Probably best to keep improving your game as your #1 goal and not thinking so much about hands played and money won.
Click to expand...

Couldn't have been said better, good advice man.

I just had another thought. You could make a public announcement that everyone who posts proof of you playing ANYTHING besides 25nl in the month gets a $$ prize 🙂.
Click to expand...

This is probably the best idea for me...I'll do something along these lines in March.
 
The Shrog said:
This is probably the best idea for me...I'll do something along these lines in March.
Click to expand...

Yeah there are several examples of this on a rival forum of people doing this.

Basically the peoples can search for your name every time they log on and first person to see you playing anything else can screenshot it and then collect $25 or whatever.
 
How much money are we talking about in the bet?
Im down for BB/100 or month profit but not hands since im only playing 4tables now and last i checked Jurn was doing 42.
 
1 buy in sindri, $25.

I can do both or only profit.
Probably more fair since Jurn is a grinding monster 🙂

Make a separate thread with all the details and stuff and we can discuss further there. We've cluttered this thread long enough imo 🙁
 
we can do it for fun/pride or a buy in depending what people want to do, this thread is for micro chat so its cool 🙂

if we do it for fun we could have most hands, winrate with min 40k hands, winrate max 20k hands, first 10k hands of the month winrate, total profits, loads of cool things we could do
 
fwiw if the idea is to set up these prop bets to get you guys motivated to play more hands, doing it for fun will complete remove the motivation that real money will provide
 
Another alternative way of doing it is you all decide how much to put up and then have a hand goal and anyone who doesn't reach the goal gets their money split among those that do.
 
Yet another way is for you each to send me $25 and your email address.

Then I'll send you the following email every day in March:
"Play more poker, slacker!"

Motivation problem solved. 🙂
 
afaik only shrog is doing it for the motivation the rest of us have no problem since were are degens ldo 😀

I didn't quite understand Zachs comment so IK will casually disregard that drunken stylez
 
Back
Top