No way I'm going all in pre-flop with AK and risk it all. Not at this point in the game. If it was just 4 of us left and I was short stack then yes, I probably would but not with all of us holding equal stacks.
AK is a drawing hand, not a guaranteed winner. Even a pair of ducks will beat it if you miss.
AK is a drawing hand, not a guaranteed winner. Even a pair of ducks will beat it if you miss.
i agree ticketman4u
that is what I thought ticketman4u. I was deep in an on demand freeroll and a guy risked 260000 with ak suited, of course he was up against a pair and lost. I don't understand why he go so excited. There was also an inactive guy that was lattering because of it. Quite comical I thought. Thank you all for your imput.
that is what I thought ticketman4u. I was deep in an on demand freeroll and a guy risked 260000 with ak suited, of course he was up against a pair and lost. I don't understand why he go so excited. There was also an inactive guy that was lattering because of it. Quite comical I thought. Thank you all for your imput.
ICM is important in the final table... If in the final table we have a 2nd place in our chips..we don't risk our tournament wit chip leader.,, but if you're in the button with a comfort stack and in the blinds people have something like less then 20 BBS we can push it... Remember let the short stacks lost first.. The pay jumps for us is very important we want more money good luck
RWsickfolds said:
If we are all deep stacked, no, I can fold AK depending on the villain if they shove a 40 BB stack into my BB. Id much rather play poker than bingo. Of course if they have shoved every button for the last 4 or 5 rounds I'll call.
Of course if we are all sitting with 8-15 BB I will happily take the 50/50.
to me it depends on how my apponent was playing prior to the final table, if he was limping pairs or min raising, also depending as people said the money and stack sizes. the best way to actually guess what he has get holdem manger 2 as it shows you how aggressive the player has been and stores all your hand history's which is actually very usefull
Common theme pointed out here is it depends on how many are left. If you're all even and it's just the 3 of you, I'm fine with jamming though I'm trying to get some cash in the pot. AK beats most hands 3 handed.
However, if it's 7-9 handed, I probably play it but I don't jam it. If you know another big stack will jam then you can just open fold it, but at that point you're not doing too well if you're just folding AK since you're letting someone else steal chips and they'll end up getting a huge lead.
However, if it's 7-9 handed, I probably play it but I don't jam it. If you know another big stack will jam then you can just open fold it, but at that point you're not doing too well if you're just folding AK since you're letting someone else steal chips and they'll end up getting a huge lead.
What were the blinds and antes at that point?
How many were left in the game?
What was the action prior to the player shoving?
Depending on the answers to this, it's quite possible that shoving with AKs was the correct play and just because they loss the hand doesn't mean the play was any less correct.
How many were left in the game?
What was the action prior to the player shoving?
Depending on the answers to this, it's quite possible that shoving with AKs was the correct play and just because they loss the hand doesn't mean the play was any less correct.
Full Table : There are some cases that I would considering folding ( multiple players in the pot / against a tight player ) but allot of the time I am calling. There are only two hands that have you dominated. You are going to be in a flip at some point if you want to win the tournament. I play for first not to jump pay scales. If the pay jumps are large sums than I might reconsider.
Short handed its an easy call. As players would be trying to steal the blinds lighter and pushing hands like weak Aces and KQ ect. to pick up the blinds. So more often than not you are ahead. Most other times you are in a flip. The odd time you are crushed.
Short handed its an easy call. As players would be trying to steal the blinds lighter and pushing hands like weak Aces and KQ ect. to pick up the blinds. So more often than not you are ahead. Most other times you are in a flip. The odd time you are crushed.
There is no reason to do that. AKs it's a strong hand, but not enouth to put in risk your tournament. And if you shove, there two possiobilities. Everyone folds and you get a little pot or you are payed for another strong hand, what is a very risky situation. Unless you are with a really short stack, I think it's a bad decision.
RWsickfolds said:
You chose one answer that you agreed with & quite possibly is totally incorrect.
260000 < means nothing without knowing the size of the blinds, the sizes of ALL the stacks & the payout structure.
Shoving AK might've been the 100% correct move. But it's hard to know when there's next to no info. given.
Like many have said, it really depends on stack sizes and the blinds.
We have no idea how many BB's 260,000 is. It could be 4 bigs, then of course it'd be ideal to shove. But it could be something like 100 big blinds, in which case I'd elect to raise a standard amount.
Additionally, you didn't tell us if it was an open shove, or a 3bet+ shove.
These things make a big difference.
We have no idea how many BB's 260,000 is. It could be 4 bigs, then of course it'd be ideal to shove. But it could be something like 100 big blinds, in which case I'd elect to raise a standard amount.
Additionally, you didn't tell us if it was an open shove, or a 3bet+ shove.
These things make a big difference.
