This is a question that gets asked quite a lot and people often expect to see answers in terms of weeks, or months, or years.JedKim said:
Actually, you should be thinking about it in terms of hands played. The reason being, Player A could sit down once a week to a live game and play 15-20 hands an hour for 4 hours for a year. At the end of the year Player A will have player approximately 3,640 hands, or 208 hours. Player B could play 4 tables online around 75 hands per table, per hour 8 hours a day, every day for a year. Player B will have played approximately 876,000 hands, or 2,920 hours, 240 times the number of hands played by Player A.
They've both played for a year, but player B is vastly more experienced, having played so much more poker.
This also doesn't take into account natural ability for the game, or time given to studying away from the table.
I would say that a player starting from scratch can become a good player within about 400,000 to 500,000 hands, or if you prefer - Player A will take about 123 years to become good, while Player B will take around 6 months.
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some people have hte nack , and perfect it very quickly others take years, and others take years and still cant get it. Discussing with your player friends is a great help and study of the game is the most important.
some people have hte nack , and perfect it very quickly others take years, and others take years and still cant get it. Discussing with your player friends is a great help and study of the game is the most important.
JedKim said:
It's not a question of time, it's a question of the quality of effort and learning you are putting in.
If you are going thru good courses (like the fr one here on cardschat) you will learn much faster than someone who is just playing and doing no review
You can become quite 'good' in less than a year certainly, but that would mean putting in many hours per week. If you are only putting in an hour or two each week it would likely take much longer.
I took about 3 months to start winning at poker in the beginning, but I was reading a ton of articles, strategy books, and watching lots of videos. I was probably putting in 4-6 hours pr day during that 3 month preiod.
So it totally depends on you and your approach :help:
ObbleeXY said:
Great post Obblee!
Thank you for sharing this 🙂
Glad to see you are crushing it. I remember that time when I started studying and getting ahead of my friends who weren't doing the same, it's a great feeling eh!? 😀
Keep up the good work my friend!
My son has been playing 2 years with me coaching him. He doesnt have any desire to study out side of the hours he puts in playing and watching videos with me, but I am impressed with the solid foundation he has built. He has a good grasp of multiple concepts and can hold his own. He is positionally and range advantage aware.
He is putting in about 6-8 hours per week on average playing micro to low stakes Texas Hold Em Tournaments. We focus on exploitative and add in some GTO principles.
I can anticipate the future spots he will have trouble with, the problem is that they dont arise during play often enough to really tell if he can make the big folds when they do finally happen.
I do my best to make him aware of these tricky situations that he will surely encounter sooner or later.
We have not really reached a point where he can triple barrel bluff with full confidence but I consider this an advanced technique which makes one a beast but is not exactly needed to win.
At this pace in another 2 years he will be a force to contend with.
He is putting in about 6-8 hours per week on average playing micro to low stakes Texas Hold Em Tournaments. We focus on exploitative and add in some GTO principles.
I can anticipate the future spots he will have trouble with, the problem is that they dont arise during play often enough to really tell if he can make the big folds when they do finally happen.
I do my best to make him aware of these tricky situations that he will surely encounter sooner or later.
We have not really reached a point where he can triple barrel bluff with full confidence but I consider this an advanced technique which makes one a beast but is not exactly needed to win.
At this pace in another 2 years he will be a force to contend with.