Were these good folds?

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Limited information, as this happened in the first 2 hands I played.

1) Dealt A7o in cutoff position.
V1 is tight. He raises $15 pre-flop.
1 caller before me. Hero folds.
Was this a HUGE mistake?

2) Dealt K4o on the button.
Someone bets $10 and there are 4 callers.
Hero folds. Was this a HUGE mistake?

Similar to #2, if you have A7o in middle position with tons of limpers, is there a GENERAL type of play?
Do you usually fold this? Or do you usually play this?


3) Dealt 9 10s in early position.
V1 is tight. He raises $10 pre-flop.
Hero folds.
Was this a HUGE mistake?


I am not trying to become a professional, I just want to improve my basics.
Position, stack sizes, player profiles don't matter much if I think 72o is the best hand ever, and I go all in.
CART BEFORE HORSE. This is all the information I can provide from memory. All I want to know is ...Was there a GLARING major f*ck up I made?
 
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All 3 are folds, yes.

Why would any of them be HUGE mistakes?

What stakes are these...? Don't you think playing micro stakes might be more sensible to "improve basics"?
 
It's hard to tell if these folds was mistake or not, if we don't know blind sizes or what type of game was these...
...but on first look i think these was just standard folds. A7, K4, 910 are not hands witch are made to call big raises.
 
I think these folds are really good depending on what information you gave to us!
 
Yea, all 3 are pretty standard folds in my opinion (especially with limited read on other players).. I would only consider playing that suited connectors, but probably not from EP.
 
Is this a troll attempt? All 3 are very obvious folds and calling would be a HUGE mistake.
 
2 and 3 are folds that are so standard it's hardly with discussing.

Hand 1 on the other hand, only if the limper is very loose passive. You have position over the limper and CO is a decent- ish spot for A7. Then again, this is live and I figure there's no need to go for marginal preflop raises. Folding would be far less challenging
 
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Is this a troll attempt? All 3 are very obvious folds and calling would be a HUGE mistake.
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🙂 this... Maybe 9Ts could be played.... 1 and 2 you must be either russkie or uber donk to play it...

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From this thread, I've learned that Ax or Kx (where x<7) is GENERALLY not good enough to call a 5BB to 8BB pre-flop raise.
Good to know my folds were GENERALLY sound. In fact, it sounds like some are just obvious.

Thank you for a straight answer! Just trying to learn the basics. THANKS for not wasting my time or yours.

On other poker forums, the posters are just oblivious to basic reality. Even when I asked about folding 72o, they will ask for a textbook length novel about stack sizes, playing styles, every single bet that was made in the last hour, even what the villain is wearing/drinking, etc when the simple answer to such obvious folds is "Yes, these are obvious folds 90% of the time, you donk fish idiot!" Even when asked about folding 72o, they will make a case for folding is just not that clear. It ALWAYS depends, and they can't admit "Most of the time, that's a proper fold". These people have gotten so lost in the forest, they can never see the obvious trees for the BEGINNER. I think they have asperger's syndrome, or hardcore OCD. I doubt they can function in society with such rigidity.

On the other hand, this forum rocks. Simple and clear. GENERAL rules of thumb.
One can actually learn the basics here, without trying to become a professional poker player overanalyzing to death when considering folding K4 or A7.
This forum is a huge lucid resource amidst all the waste ..
 
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All the three starting hands are not so good when calling a raise or limping either. You must know those mediocre hands, premium hands, dominated hands etc.
 
Is RickAversion Ladybugger? Other than the obvious posting similarities he joined immediately after LB stopped posting, and both names were last active at the same time to the minute.
 
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It would take pretty unusual circumstances for folding a modest hand pre- to be a huge mistake. Somewhat bad is less unusual, but that's not the same thing.
 
Yup, LB here.
Thanks for another great thread to improve my knowledge base.
This forum is the best poker forum on the web, bar none.
I'm already a better player just by logging into this forum!!
Go CC!!
 
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easy game

yes as suggested nothing wrong with the fold made pre flop. However i am thinking if you are so unsure about some of your basic decisions pre flop then i think post flop play for you will be even more tougher and i guess there will be a lot of stealing going on as opponents will try to make you laydown when they sense that you are not playing that strong.

See you mentioned you are not trying to be a professional and are try to get your basics right. Well then thats not going to be that tough. All your further basic questions are welcome here in the forum.:flowers:
 
"Limited information, as this happened in the first 2 hands I played.

Very limited... would help to know what stakes you are playing and.. well.. anything else. But judging by the sizing I'm going to guess you are playing full ring 1.50/3.00 NL

1) Dealt A7o in cutoff position.
V1 is tight. He raises $15 pre-flop.
1 caller before me. Hero folds.
Was this a HUGE mistake?

On the first hand, this is a fold for me. Not sure how you know the player is tight if you just entered the table unless his stats are public or you have a history of playing with him using a tracker...

2) Dealt K4o on the button.
Someone bets $10 and there are 4 callers.
Hero folds. Was this a HUGE mistake?

With 4 callers the argument can be made for a number of plays. Limping along because of your pot odds to see the flop. Folding because someone is fairly likely to repop behind you. Or putting in a raise to potentially collect dead money. Personally, K4off doesn't float my boat so I'm happy with a fold this early in the table. The other two moves are optimally played after taking "the table's temperature" so to speak.

Similar to #2, if you have A7o in middle position with tons of limpers, is there a GENERAL type of play?
Do you usually fold this? Or do you usually play this?


3) Dealt 9 10s in early position.
V1 is tight. He raises $10 pre-flop.
Hero folds.
Was this a HUGE mistake?

Not at all. T9s is good multiway, good for image if you need to loosen up, and good if you feel you have strong reads against your opponents. However, statistically speaking, it's not really a great hand.


I am not trying to become a professional, I just want to improve my basics.
Position, stack sizes, player profiles don't matter much if I think 72o is the best hand ever, and I go all in.
CART BEFORE HORSE. This is all the information I can provide from memory. All I want to know is ...Was there a GLARING major f*ck up I made?"

None of these were bad folds. The glaring **** up that you are making is that you are playing 1.50/3.00 (I surmise) without foundational pre-flop play.
 
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