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How curious that you have the best cards and a good game and they go all in and you will surely accept and in the end they beat you.
Win again the same one that won you and you with a good AA hand.
They send you to eat dust, that's why I think bots?
because going all in with such terrible cards and having them beat you in the end there is that question about betting all in every time someone goes all in.
 
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happens all the time actually. you just need to make a good read with past behaviors of the player , unless you are confident you have a good hand and theyre bluffing
 
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Well bots are designed to play mathematically correct poker...

so what you're most likely facing there are just new players

who are just learning or hoping to get lucky 👍
 
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This happens on licensed online gaming platforms, and it's not bots, but players who decide to go all-in while already in the money. Otherwise, they won't be able to reach the final table. Ask your friends how many times they've folded aces or kings on PokerStars while fighting for the pot when three or four players go all-in.
 
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That’s always going to exist; if you believe there are bots, simply don't play.
 
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That’s normal—it’s just the variance of the game. Just because you have pocket Aces pre-flop doesn’t mean you’re going to win every time; that’s just part of the game.
 
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Just wait until they're nano sized and inside everyone .... darn, that's probably already a thing.

Thanks to Hugh Howey for giving them more ideas... his Silo mega tale is so dark.
 
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A bot is a computer program designed to play poker, so that its user can win money at the tables. So why would anyone design a bot to play poorly and get its chips in bad? This makes no sense, so the real issue here is tilt. I recommend Jared Tendler as a guide on how to work on your tilt problem. You can start with this free video.

 
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When I started playing, I had a situation: I was in a 10-cent tournament and a $3 tournament was starting. I wanted to get out of the 10-cent tournament so that there would be more attention on the $3 tournament. As a result, in the 10-cent tournament, I shoved any two and won 1st place... I think that partly it's a faulty RNG and partly it's more selective memory.
 
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I know that feeling. Getting your aces cracked by someone who shoves with a terrible hand is incredibly frustrating. But if they're putting their chips in bad, that's actually good for you in the long run. AA is the best starting hand, but it still loses sometimes. Variance can be brutal, especially over a small sample. I'd be careful about assuming it's bots based on a few bad beats. If your money is going in as a favorite, you're making the right play, even when the result hurts.
 
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fundiver199 said:
A bot is a computer program designed to play poker, so that its user can win money at the tables. So why would anyone design a bot to play poorly and get its chips in bad? This makes no sense, so the real issue here is tilt. I recommend Jared Tendler as a guide on how to work on your tilt problem. You can start with this free video.

Its actually a common misconception among new players who go online. They see some unfair runouts and/or start to lose and the conclusion is that something does not feel correct so it has to be "bots" that know what cards are coming and what you have. What they actually mean is some kind of automatic superuser and not classic poker bots.
 
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Sunz of Beaches said:
Its actually a common misconception among new players who go online.
Yes it pops up from time to time so seem to be at least somewhat common.
Sunz of Beaches said:
What they actually mean is some kind of automatic superuser and not classic poker bots.
But even that makes no sense, since a superuser can take advantage of their knowledge in lots of other ways than getting their chips in bad and then sucking out on people. Like bluffing only, when their opponents are weak, valuebetting thin with hands, that would normally need to check and making huge folds, when they have a strong but second best hand.

There are literally 100`s of hours of footage of Mike Postly playing with superuser knowledge, so we know exactly, what this looks like, and he did not win by putting bad beats on people. Also all known cases of superusers have involved knowledge only of the cards already dealt to other players and not the community cards yet to come.

So it would pretty much need to be the house itself, that put out these "bots" to cheat their customers. Which again, if they really wanted to do that, there would be much easier and less obvious ways like giving their "house bot" AA and the victim KK. But as also discussed a million times, there is really no need for sites to cheat in this way, as they are sure to profit anyway due to the rake, that players pay.
 
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This is completely normal, it's part of the game and it's called a Bad Beat. I do believe they started manipulating the game after the Artificial Intelligence revolution, but they do it in a different way, they've noticed players with a high win rate and start making them receive more Bad Beats to reduce their earnings.
 
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I don't really think these big site's need bots as they have enough traffic plus I think they too can detect if you are using bots, what I believe is in a pool of 1000 player's you won't miss a maniac or recreational player who will call anyhow believing any two card's can win
 
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It's not a good idea to assume that an unusual play means you're facing a bot. Recreational players often go all-in with very weak hands out of impulse, boredom, or inexperience.
In the short term, poker can produce results that seem absurd. A hand with a 20% chance of winning will still win about one out of every five times. If that happens against you several times in a row, it can feel like "they always get there."
Adopting a strategy of if someone goes all-in, I'll go all-in with any hand too is a losing strategy in the long run. If the math isn't in your favor, you'll eventually lose money over time.
 
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That’s always going to exist; if you believe there are bots, simply don't play.
 
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Catalina2 said:
How curious that you have the best cards and a good game and they go all in and you will surely accept and in the end they beat you.
Win again the same one that won you and you with a good AA hand.
They send you to eat dust, that's why I think bots?
because going all in with such terrible cards and having them beat you in the end there is that question about betting all in every time someone goes all in.
Players who go all in with trash are certainly not bots, they're the all in donks, bingo fun players
 
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I've noticed this quite a few times; recently, I reported a player to support to check whether or not their behavior is normal.
 
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Catalina2 said:
How curious that you have the best cards and a good game and they go all in and you will surely accept and in the end they beat you.
Win again the same one that won you and you with a good AA hand.
They send you to eat dust, that's why I think bots?
because going all in with such terrible cards and having them beat you in the end there is that question about betting all in every time someone goes all in.
I know that feeling—it’s incredibly frustrating when your AA loses to a player who shoved with a terrible hand. But that alone isn’t evidence of bots. Even the best starting hand in poker loses sometimes, and players making bad all-ins will occasionally get lucky because of variance.
In the long run, you actually want opponents making those bad calls. If you consistently get your chips in with AA against weaker hands, you're making a profitable play, even if a few of those hands end badly. Poker is about making good decisions repeatedly, not winning every all-in.
 
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I don't think there are any bots. It's just players who assume their hand is the best—that they’re going to win—without even stopping to consider what cards the other person might be holding.
 
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