I went to the game with AA pair and gave all-in, had a crazy that paid with 7/8, result, cards on the table, A / 9/10/J/3, conclusion: I lost a crack and the crazy man made a Sequence and won from me, can I believein poker online ?.
Yes. I rely on online poker because until now I've never had any problems playing onlinejfofla said:
I started playing online poker around `02. I've played on most of the sites that would allow playing from the US, Pacific, Party, Stars, FTP, UB, BCP, ACR, BetOnline, Doom, and others that I can't recall atm. I've known of people colluding and multi-accounting, but I don't think I have been directly affected by it or have been, but was oblivious. Now I have always had this conspiracy theory that poker sites use an algorithm that would dictate the outcome of hands in an effort to keep money in play longer to collect more rake. That's my suspicion and I have no proof, but it's my boogyman under the bed.
jfofla said:
I don’t really trust it ... not because I don’t trust the sites themselves but there is far to much cheating such as collusion and bots . That said I still do play online when I can ... you just have to pay attention.
Can you completely trust online poker sites? Of course not lol. This is especially true for US online poker players.
Give a group of people the opportunity to make some extra money at the cost of others with very little or no risk and 9 times out of 10 they're going to take advantage of that opportunity. Regulation exists for a reason, the problem for US players is that any site you're playing on has little to no regulation.
You can trust theses "US-Friendly" poker sites no more than you'd trust a stranger off the street.
When it comes to cashing out your money you usually shouldn't have much of an issue, especially if you use crypto.
I think the real question lies in the poker software and algorithm. According to pokerstars CEO, designing an accurate poker algorithm is literally impossible using software alone. Pokerstars using a sophisticated hardware system along with random user interactions within their poker RNG algorithm. What are the chances that the average small US poker site has anywhere near this kind of technology?
So even if it's not the site's intention to have flawed poker RNG, chances are they do anyways because they can't afford the equipment to design a more accurate algorithm. Many people still manage to beat the sites but just remember that you're playing at your own risk and playing online for real money does require that you put a certain amount of trust in random people you don't know and who's product normally has little to no regulation.
Give a group of people the opportunity to make some extra money at the cost of others with very little or no risk and 9 times out of 10 they're going to take advantage of that opportunity. Regulation exists for a reason, the problem for US players is that any site you're playing on has little to no regulation.
You can trust theses "US-Friendly" poker sites no more than you'd trust a stranger off the street.
When it comes to cashing out your money you usually shouldn't have much of an issue, especially if you use crypto.
I think the real question lies in the poker software and algorithm. According to pokerstars CEO, designing an accurate poker algorithm is literally impossible using software alone. Pokerstars using a sophisticated hardware system along with random user interactions within their poker RNG algorithm. What are the chances that the average small US poker site has anywhere near this kind of technology?
So even if it's not the site's intention to have flawed poker RNG, chances are they do anyways because they can't afford the equipment to design a more accurate algorithm. Many people still manage to beat the sites but just remember that you're playing at your own risk and playing online for real money does require that you put a certain amount of trust in random people you don't know and who's product normally has little to no regulation.
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There is not any possible way of that.Company cares about founds .For example if you play a heads up tournament ...you pay 0.20 eachother and the winner take the rest .So there is no need of company to steel you ....Also such a big problem would provoke destruction of the company ...noone would play there .I think it is just luck .
There is not any possible way of that.Company cares about founds .For example if you play a heads up tournament ...you pay 0.20 eachother and the winner take the rest .So there is no need of company to steel you ....Also such a big problem would provoke destruction of the company ...noone would play there .I think it is just luck .
Yes I do. For 3 years of playing online poker I saw many different situations at the tables. But I saw all this in live broadcasts. Good players will always be in the plus at the distance, and bad players will always be in the minus (except for very lucky people)
Use to live near Tampa casino. Lots of fun and challenges. Online poker is, to me, a different game with the same rules. No matter which is played I will always believe lady luck has an advantage over skills. A good argument supporting this is why doesn't the same folks wind up on top each year in WSOP tournaments. So... I believe skills, knowledge, etc. still play a good part but luck is a huge factor. So... when playing online, I focus on building my stack with the hands that have had the best win % with. If I lose, well, I lose. I played one of my best hands. I approach online as luck is in the other person's favor and my only chance is to play the hands I win the most with. God luck with your games!Popaye said:
With a while playing you have a great chance to think that the software is making you lose, but studying and seeing the examples of the professionals and even playing live, you will realize that it is part of the game, but yes and I trust.
Honestly its probably just normal variance and you tend to forget the good times and remember the bad times for yourself, which reinforces your opinion on being wary of online poker. But all things aside, poker sites certainly could make it so that games are not perfectly random. I would think this would be much harder to get away with for regulated sites however
i enjoy online poker but man in wild west that is now really hard to trust sites offering non regulated locations i use to love pokerstars pre black friday but in today market my mind after all the scandals full tilt super user fiasco and carbon fiasco just to name a few i think would be good choice to not leave an amount of money online that would effect your life in any meaningful way as we don't know if we can trust them for 100 percent certain also some of the setups seem staged but that can easily be attributed to selective memory as we play a ton more hands online and only remember a simple few but fact all sites seem to play much different will forever seem fishy to me
jfofla said:
Based on the context of the question, it sounds like the "trust" online poker is does the variance seem comparable to live poker. To that question, I would say yes. The RNG for online poker produces the same result as a shuffle machine in live poker. You could spend hours on YouTube looking at "worst poker bad beats", "worst poker suckouts", ect which will mirror what you described above. Below is one of my favorite WTF moments in Live poker. Makes me appreciate my bad beat 🙂