Look at this hand posted today by Venner Road

Brigistul · Aug 9, 2026

I asked ChatGPT about this hand!
After reviewing the documents now, I don’t think we can say that my suspicion is proven, but it’s also not correct to reduce the issue to ‘the RNG is certified, therefore everything is automatically 100% correct’. The official documentation shows that there are multiple layers of control, but also that a substantial part of the technical information regarding the actual verification of GGPoker is not public.
approximately 1 in 7.567 billion billion?

No — here I must be very careful with the units: the correct result is

1 in approximately 7,567,000,000,000 that is, 1 in 7.57 trillion.

The probability is approximately:

0.0000000000132%.

Is it really random? Thx Thedarkman!

G0930 · Aug 9, 2026

Not really outlandish.

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Brigistul · Aug 9, 2026

G0930 said:
Not really outlandish.
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This is not about equity. Pre‑flop equity is just a general statistic. I’m referring to the probability of the entire event happening exactly in the configuration shown in the image, and that is the number I posted. That’s all.

monkeytilter · Aug 9, 2026

As a (possibly) interesting exercise, look at the odds of 3 distinct hands being dealt, then a random 5 card board.

Now calculate the odds of this exact configuration occurring. Do we end up with an "astronomical" number again?
Do we just ignore these cases as nothing dramatic occurred?

G0930 · Aug 9, 2026

Brigistul said:
This is not about equity. Pre‑flop equity is just a general statistic. I’m referring to the probability of the entire event happening exactly in the configuration shown in the image, and that is the number I posted. That’s all.

Gotcha but you do realize that any exact board constellation has a similar
(im)probability

marco198121 · Aug 9, 2026

The most unusual thing I noticed in this screenshot is a beautiful woman playing with you guys.

fundiver199 · Aug 9, 2026

Brigistul said:
This is not about equity. Pre‑flop equity is just a general statistic. I’m referring to the probability of the entire event happening exactly in the configuration shown in the image, and that is the number I posted. That’s all.

Yes because there are like a trillion different ways, that 16 hold cards and 5 community cards can be dealt, and several of those involve someone having AA, someone having QQ and someone having JJ, with QQ or JJ then eventually winning the hand. Like BTN could have been the player with AA, Qh could have come on the turn instead of Qs of the flop, or the river could have been another spade sending the pot to the player with JJ.

The chance of any 3 players at an 8-handed table having AA, QQ and JJ in the same hand is around 1:352, and then the chance of AA not winning is around 1:3. So statistically you will see a situation like this in a little more than 1.000 hands. However there is a similar chance of someone having AA/KK/JJ, AA/KK/QQ or KK/QQ/JJ, so 3 premium pairs will collude every 90 hands or so, and around every 270 hands the winner will not be the highest pair. Much crazier things like this happen in poker all the time.

monkeytilter · Aug 9, 2026

G0930 said:
Not really outlandish.
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AA vs QQ vs JJ preflop is pretty rare, but not "astronomic".

The equities tell the real story of the likelihood of an "unexpected" outcome post flop, AA will get cracked ~35% of the time - kind of meh.

Brig. has picked one exact card deal/runout and said how rare is that??!!!
Not a very useful number as any single configuration after 3 hands and a board is dealt to the river is one of trillions. (Hand 1: choose 2 from 52, choose 2 from remaining 50, choose 2 from remaining 48, choose 5 from remaining 46 = 2,510,000,000,000).

Brigistul · Aug 9, 2026

monkeytilter said:
AA vs QQ vs JJ preflop is pretty rare, but not "astronomic".

The equities tell the real story of the likelihood of an "unexpected" outcome post flop, AA will get cracked ~35% of the time - kind of meh.

Brig. has picked one exact card deal/runout and said how rare is that??!!!
Not a very useful number as any single configuration after 3 hands and a board is dealt to the river is one of trillions. (Hand 1: choose 2 from 52, choose 2 from remaining 50, choose 2 from remaining 48, choose 5 from remaining 46 = 2,510,000,000,000).

True, AA vs QQ vs JJ isn’t astronomical by itself. But I wasn’t talking about the preflop frequency — I was talking about the exact runout that occurred. That’s the difference: I’m not analyzing how often AA/QQ/JJ appear, but how rare the full configuration of board + action + final outcome is.

A single runout proves nothing, agreed — but it also can’t be dismissed as ‘meh, AA loses 35%.’ I only calculated the rarity of that specific runout, not claiming it proves anything.

So yes: preflop isn’t astronomical. The exact runout? Rare. Interpretation? Needs caution.

monkeytilter · Aug 9, 2026

Brigistul said:
True, AA vs QQ vs JJ isn’t astronomical by itself. But I wasn’t talking about the preflop frequency — I was talking about the exact runout that occurred. That’s the difference: I’m not analyzing how often AA/QQ/JJ appear, but how rare the full configuration of board + action + final outcome is.

A single runout proves nothing, agreed — but it also can’t be dismissed as ‘meh, AA loses 35%.’ I only calculated the rarity of that specific runout, not claiming it proves anything.

So yes: preflop isn’t astronomical. The exact runout? Rare. Interpretation? Needs caution.

So yes: preflop isn’t astronomical. The exact runout? Rare as any other run out. Interpretation? That's Poker.

fundiver199 · Aug 9, 2026

monkeytilter said:
So yes: preflop isn’t astronomical. The exact runout? Rare as any other run out. Interpretation? That's Poker.

Exactly. If you ask ChatGPT an irrelevant question, you get a correct but irrelevant answer. It reminds me of an old joke about someone doing a sightseeing trip in California with a hot air balloon. The weather then got foggy, and the pilot lost his orientation. Out of the fog he saw an office building with some workers standing outside. So he lowered the balloon and asked them "sorry but can you tell me, where I am"?

They answered "in a balloon", and then he said "thank you very much" and flew straight back to the airport. After landing the passengers asked him, how he had found his way back? His answer was, that when he asked the workers a question, he got an answer, that was 100% correct and 100% useless. So he knew, he had to be at Microsofts development center, and from there he knew his way back to the airport.

moots · Aug 9, 2026

monkeytilter · Aug 9, 2026

moots said:
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fundiver199 · Aug 9, 2026

That hand from the wsop Main Event 2026 was pretty sick. For sure Feng must have felt really great about his situation on the flop, when the 3 diamonds had killed one of his opponents outs. But runner-runner straight came, and he was out. Brutal end but thats poker!

Sunz of Beaches · Aug 9, 2026

Read this thread now 3 times but still not sure what this is really about.

But if i understand correctly then i wonder why it would matter that such a board configuration is super rare in that combination? Its just a 3 way setup and thats it.

No need to overanalyze everything imo. No hate from me just my opinion 🤷

Mr.Ram · Aug 10, 2026

You can see dozens of such incredible hands in a single session. In this regard, the RNG is the same whether you're on GGPoker, 888, or WPT. One-outer wins, multiple top pairs in a single hand—poker is just more dynamic these days.

akgross · 2026-08-20T12:41:14-0400

It's a completely normal distribution and there's nothing unusual about it.

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