ViserioN_SE
Rising Star
Bronze Level
vs donks that call everything? maybe you are a guesser but i´m not :hahaha:
vs donks that call everything? maybe you are a guesser but i´m not :hahaha:
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Zorba
27
Platinum Level
The Ol' change the flop trick, ya gotta keep a close eye on the flop, it's a pity no one has invented a way that you could record that happening. :hmmmm:
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You do realise you are talking to someone that has discovered it's rigged at MULTIPLE SITES and still plays at those sites mate, how many times have you seen the flop magically change when you play, I have never seen it, but if I did I wouldn't keep playing there.
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Tuan
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I think poker has variances and bad beats happen more for online poker. First, the buy in is smaller so people play wild and more hands. Second, in my opinion online players play way too many hands and raise a lot more even from the under the gun position. Final, it is much easier to call and play loose online because you can't get a read from face expression; so it is much easier to bluff.
oneybiggs
Legend
Silver Level
Big ups to party poker! Small but very much needed bankroll and I can assure you what happens outside stars STAYS outside stars
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oneybiggs
Legend
Silver Level
I fully understand your fair comment Zorba,I agree but I love it too much to stop.Ive seen stuff every site since the day i deposited but never an inkling of it in first couple years on play money.Thats why I chose Party as my fav because I've seen it the least there but haven't been able to cash due to address verification ,always bad timing but sorted now...and sorry bout my speel on the royals thread(what a hoot) just getting the last of the cuckoo out of my system lol no real offence meant mate.was wondering what your screen name is in case I see u at tables? Back at party now myself..got 1 under the belt first night back there.gl at the tables man I mean that!
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8bod8
Legend
Silver Level
I really like both arguments, as each one of them makes my life easy.
The broken RNG makes sure I have a better chance of hitting flop/post flop.
The donkeys give away their chips eagerly.
I wonder if the bots are smart enough to realize this.
Flop swaps are like Loch Ness monster and UFO pictures, always blurred and look like polar bears in the snow at night at 300 meters with heavy fog and focus in macro.
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BigJLittleJ
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I believe many people on here are fooling themselves. I don't think half of the responses here would actually be saying that online poker is not fixed. Your probably saying that just incase your favourite poker site is reading your post then stitches you up. I don't mean to insult your intelligence, it's something I would say at times myself. But you got to be honest..... it's rigged. God bless & wake up.
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sheltowee420
Rock Star
Silver Level
is online rigged ?
My personal guestimation is that for every 100 players in an online tournament 5 of them are bots (or something), plus you and me and the rest. So, one key to success is to recognize this, and fit your game to this reality. also, a good screen name could be: MyPetTroll.
My personal guestimation is that for every 100 players in an online tournament 5 of them are bots (or something), plus you and me and the rest. So, one key to success is to recognize this, and fit your game to this reality. also, a good screen name could be: MyPetTroll.
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Makonbacon
Rising Star
Bronze Level
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ozrock
Enthusiast
Silver Level
For years, have played an equal amount of live and online. Online is rigged as hell. I've never been in, or have I seen so many bad beats happen to other players as I have online. It is amazing how many inside straights, 2 outer's, hands that have an 8% or less chance win time and time again. Makes me wonder when (it will happen eventually) online poker becomes regulated if this crazy crap will continue.
puzzlefish
Legend
Loyaler
More profit. Keep money in the site. Maximize deposits, minimize withdrawals, maximize rake. That's pretty much it. If there are any rogue employees, they may have self interests and act on their own apart from the site.
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muky2
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I don't worry so much about online rooms cheating, but I wonder about possible tweaking to the random card generator in free rolls on some sites. One site in particular was Poker Mira, a Russian poker site I played a little. It seemed that the big stacks would get very generous cards with weaker staring hands especially late in the tournaments and mostly against very short stacks. I just never thought it was worth complaining about since it was in a freeroll to start with.
Nikolay Nakhaev
Legend
Silver Level
not all rooms are good
but you have a large selection else where to play.
I also do not trust a number of rooms where the work of the security service is not visible and these rooms have rather bad reviews from the players. unfortunately, as I noticed, many people do not play poker, but in the lottery and they always get there)
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Stingray
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Yes and no
Can someone please explain to me why in a Big pot the weakest hand wins more online than live? Many times AA or KK gets cracked by smaller PP and many times on the river. Played live 3 days and only saw a 1 outer one time honestly. Online in almost every tournament I see the ugly 2 outer. Is it part of the programming? Have even seen set over set get cracked. Talking about maths why is this more frequent online?
Can someone please explain to me why in a Big pot the weakest hand wins more online than live? Many times AA or KK gets cracked by smaller PP and many times on the river. Played live 3 days and only saw a 1 outer one time honestly. Online in almost every tournament I see the ugly 2 outer. Is it part of the programming? Have even seen set over set get cracked. Talking about maths why is this more frequent online?
MemphisGrind
Think Bink
Bronze Level
I really feel like people seriously don't realize the difference in the amount of hands you see online vs. live.....
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Stingray
Rising Star
Bronze Level
In the future
3 days live poker is many hands more than a smaller online tournament or satelite. Similar to more than 20 hours live. Can you see the comparison I am trying to make now? Playing online 2-3 hours is much more hands than 20 hours live? Please no spam read the context.
in the future please read the post before replying. It does say 3 days.
3 days live poker is many hands more than a smaller online tournament or satelite. Similar to more than 20 hours live. Can you see the comparison I am trying to make now? Playing online 2-3 hours is much more hands than 20 hours live? Please no spam read the context.
MemphisGrind
Think Bink
Bronze Level
I'm not spamming I just don't agree with your statement "Can someone please explain to me why in a Big pot the weakest hand wins more online than live?" I don't think this statement is true, and I felt like one reason you may be misunderstanding what you are seeing is because of the MASSIVE difference between hands dealt per hour between live and online . You said you saw a ONE outer out of 500 (live dealer dealing 25 hph x 20 hours which is a low estimate some deal up to 40hph) and in 300 hands online (assuming you are playing one table 100hph which is a low estimate some tables get 120+ ) if you are multi-tabling which is standard... 4 is average that is 1200 hands in 3 hours which smashes what you would see live, and you're saying you saw a TWO outer each time you play an online tournament (which is obviously and exaggeration) .. I don't understand why you feel there is a programming error and it's not just variance?
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Stingray
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Again you are spamming and calling me a lier. You are not counting all the stallers online right? I have seen it for the past month every day ok? The table I play online is 8 handed vs 10 handed live. Look it was even televised and on the tv table it Only happened once all tournament that some Got their AA cracked. It is not much more hands online. Today I played only 20-30 hands and I Got AA cracked on river. Is this a Lie also? Wtf is wrong with you? It does not add up to more hands. Your calculation is not exactly very accurate. What should I Call you then a lier or similar also?
And what if it even was more hands? You are avoiding the question of what lands on the board. Also it is commonly known that online poker has more action hands than live. AA vs KK or even AA vs KK vs QQ. This you dont know?
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puzzlefish
Legend
Loyaler
Instead of calling people liars, provide more details. Where do you play - what sites? There are many people - a majority in fact - that believe in online variance and fair poker site RNGs. You are a minority. Check out the rigged megathread on these forums.
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Devourx
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I don't think poker sites are rigged, but what i worry about is individuals having software to give them advantage over other players on the online sites...how can you control that or hackers, etc that sort of thing.