Is Online Poker Rigged?

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Everyone can check it out on their own. You don’t need partners for this, you need a deck of cards and a lot of free time. And very soon you will notice that offline is very slow and that killer distributions have not gone away.
 
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I don't think it's rigged. I wonder if do cards depend on your choice? I mean if I fold and see the flop would it be different if I haven't been fold?
 
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The fact is that online falls a little more times down the hole line than live. But it is also certain that one plays more hands than live so the thing that comes to the bad beat several times can seem smooth. :icon_rr:
The fact is that if someone has played all sorts of bets, it may have occurred to him that the bad beat comes more often on a micro level. Of course, this can be explained by the fact that more people are playing multiple cards, which is why the weaker hand wins multiple times.:santaclau


It’s also certain that I had already played live and then the bad beat was visibly less frequent. But of course I can also be just paranoid. :bath::vroam:
 
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Sometimes it seems that he is falsified. But this is just software. So there’s no point in complaining
 
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I'm asking my self often the same question, it is really interesting, i mean you can see the flop in some poker rooms even if you fold (natural8 and GG), for few seconds but would the cards be the same, hope they are otherwise there's no point
 
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Serg77 said:
I don't think it's rigged. I wonder if do cards depend on your choice? I mean if I fold and see the flop would it be different if I haven't been fold?
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I'm asking my self often the same question, it is really interesting, i mean you can see the flop in some poker rooms even if you fold (natural8 and GG), for few seconds but would the cards be the same, hope they are otherwise there's no point
 
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If the computer generated numbers aren't random, then there must be a pattern.
If somebody programmed the cards then you can look for a sequence.
Therefore I suggest all those who suspect foul play start searching.
Crack the pattern sequence and you will have a gold mine.
 
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yes it is

I tend to think it is when you get to the higher stakes. Seems like whenever I have a flush the other person has four of a kind or if I have 3 of a kind he has a higher 3 of a kind and this usually in what sitting, too much of a coincidence if you ask me.
 
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Serg77 said:
I don't think it's rigged. I wonder if do cards depend on your choice? I mean if I fold and see the flop would it be different if I haven't been fold?
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actually had been always thinking about this... like in live poker everything is much more simple, but when playing online it is a real disease when you fold T9 and there goes an absolute nuts full house and some other annoying things...
 
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Online rigged

No I don’t think it is and I also thinks it’s very profitable if you know how to play. :five::confused::):confused::cool::)
 
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dmt_god said:
actually had been always thinking about this... like in live poker everything is much more simple, but when playing online it is a real disease when you fold T9 and there goes an absolute nuts full house and some other annoying things...
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The very same thing happens in a live game. Online we play far more hands so we see a lot more of the situations that drive us crazy.


I find it hard to believe that this thread is still going strong after all these years.
 
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This is an understandable topic. You'll see those that use the word fair thinking something is wrong when something doesn't go their way.
Life isn't fair, end of story. You can flip a coin and have it land heads ten times (or more) in a row. Is it likely...no. Possible...definitely.
Any mature adult with decades of live poker experience will be able to tell you countless "bad beat" stories. Some that are hard to believe, yet factual.
So the best piece of advice anyone can give is if you can't afford to lose or have the maturity level of a child, don't play poker.

As far as third world poker sites go, guess what?....there's bad people in the world. They don't walk around with neon signs over their heads saying bad person here. But one should do research as to anything you're considering putting money into. It's just common sense.
Any that don't recognize that simple truth haven't had someone with an East Indian accent claiming to named Roger Wilson from the IRS wanting money in the form of iTunes cards or else they're sending the police over to your house to arrest you. It's prison time for you if you don't pay an amount that can be haggled. Watch some millennial go off about that being racist now (pathetic).

There's bad people in the world, but bad beats (no matter how unreal) happen in poker. If you can handle it, don't play.
 
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dmt_god said:
actually had been always thinking about this... like in live poker everything is much more simple, but when playing online it is a real disease when you fold T9 and there goes an absolute nuts full house and some other annoying things...
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Hope that any of programmers see the message and tell us the truth:)
 
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Haven't played much lately so decided to crank up a few games on BCP. Saw 15 all ins and 14 winners with worst hands preflop from coin flips to 80/20s. 7 turn cards and 3 rivers where big flop leads lost.

Winning player at $3 to $50 buy-ins on sites before Black Friday. I track my stats and hands with PT4. So it's easy to review HHs to see the absurd un-randomness of WPN's bogus RNG.

My screen name is Caleb55, check out my stats on sharkscope.com. Because of the unethical shuffle I only play free-rolls with an occasional $3 tournament and withdraw when my balance hits $50-100.
 
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As an online player, I keep hearing this argument that online poker is rigged over and over and over again. Of course, this usually, if not always, come after a particularly bad beat.

I don't believe it and I don't think the people claiming it really do either. Most are tilted, steaming and plain angry. But 95% are back a week later.

Any card can and does turn up in Poker. Sometimes when you least expect it, sometimes when you least want it.
 
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Rigged no ,weird algorithms sure and is there bots at times definitely that needs to be watched far more
 
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If it is.............

guess I am okay with it. I am a very tight player and wait for mistakes to happen, which they always do, and then capitalize. Rinse, repeat.

I make a nice small additional income to my real job, and of course, dream of doing this full time from my beachside bungalow with a good wifi someday.

But need to make enough to buy the beachside bungalow first.. :rolleyes::cool::D;):eek::icon_thum
 
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i dunno, i dont see people jamming out of position with k6 and winning against premiums as much live as i do online...

i've seen one hand live (break hand) where someone flopped nut flush, and walked away as the other person runner runner fullhoused them and came back confused af....

but thats the only live hand where i said, hey.. i guess you cant play break hands live, either :p which is a rule i've developed strictly from playing online poker.. the variance in break hands is ****ing ridiculous, but apparently its a little abnormal live, as well :p

aside from that, i still see way weirder shit online that can only be explained by seeing hole cards.... which, i know from former employees at stars that.. they all have access to, and are encouraged to play.. you know, hole card seeing software. even though they claim employees cant play.

i feel like its much harder to cheat live than online, as well.. so for that fact alone, its much more likely that if somethign happens itll be online.. but rigged vs someone cheating... its not the same thing.

the real question is, how often are they checking that RNG? isle of man law is what, every 5 years? or twice in five??.. lots can be manipulated in the mean time :p

all of the weird stuff happening on native land in canada and people dont think its weird when pokerstars moves there? lol i mean come on guys... their CEO is a criminal who gets away.. you trust his company? lol

they just dumped a bunch of stock, time to short it and watch it fall :p but most people agree online poker algo's are designed to incite action - you say tomato, i say tomawto.. that sounds like deck manipulation to me.. which is rigged, no?
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its not rigged you see 10x more online then live because its much faster online if you put out 1000 hands on live and online you would see around the same bad beats
 
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yeah, that happens regularly, online poker is constructed to make you play and raise the bet
 
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Still no, volume and variance are major factors here.
 
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KC69 said:
This is an understandable topic. You'll see those that use the word fair thinking something is wrong when something doesn't go their way.
Life isn't fair, end of story. You can flip a coin and have it land heads ten times (or more) in a row. Is it likely...no. Possible...definitely.
Any mature adult with decades of live poker experience will be able to tell you countless "bad beat" stories. Some that are hard to believe, yet factual.
So the best piece of advice anyone can give is if you can't afford to lose or have the maturity level of a child, don't play poker.

As far as third world poker sites go, guess what?....there's bad people in the world. They don't walk around with neon signs over their heads saying bad person here. But one should do research as to anything you're considering putting money into. It's just common sense.
Any that don't recognize that simple truth haven't had someone with an East Indian accent claiming to named Roger Wilson from the IRS wanting money in the form of iTunes cards or else they're sending the police over to your house to arrest you. It's prison time for you if you don't pay an amount that can be haggled. Watch some millennial go off about that being racist now (pathetic).

There's bad people in the world, but bad beats (no matter how unreal) happen in poker. If you can handle it, don't play.
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You make some very good points,do you play live poker because i do and i play online poker there is a difference when it comes to the dealing of cards. I played live poker last night was dealt 387 hands and not once in the 4 hours 35 minutes did i get the same two cards three times in a row like i've seen with online poker. Whats your thoughts on that?

The Riff_Raff :cool:
 
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Rigged? No. Let's look at the odds a bit.

Preflop All in AA vs 72o - Aces will get cracked (or tie) 12% of the time. So around once every eight times, you're getting your aces beat by the worst possible hand.

Preflop All in AA vs TJs - Aces will get cracked 21% of the time. So more than once in every five times, you're getting beat.

Most matchups are much closer when two players are getting their chips in the middle. So while it seems you're getting beat when you have the best of it, you're probably not as far ahead as you think you are.

ie. AKo vs TJs - AK is getting beat almost 40% of the time.
 
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Bots and collusion in cash games. End of story. Call that rigged? Who makes the money?
 
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Poker Orifice said:
Players who win more frequently.... typically aren't depositing... and definitely not making higher deposits. Umm... because they are winning :rolleyes:
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What he meant was that the software is designed to help players who lack experience and discipline but make deposits come from behind more often than random. That way they stay hooked on playing because of the reinforcement of hitting their miracle cards. That does not mean those are profitable players.
 
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