Is Online Poker Rigged?

Lieutenant_OH7 · Jul 11, 2020

zinzir said:
What he meant was that the software is designed to help players who lack experience and discipline but make deposits come from behind more often than random. That way they stay hooked on playing because of the reinforcement of hitting their miracle cards. That does not mean those are profitable players.

Yea I think that comes from the fact that loose and bad players will very often call with a bad hand & eventually still catch something, it's a risk they take but sometimes it pays off.
Can be very frustrating but it's cuz of players like that that poker (mainly the lower stakes) is still profitable..

DeuceParade · Jul 16, 2020

Here is some food for thought. EA Sports has been caught with a patent called "Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment" (DDA). The premise of the patent is that when 2 players connect to their server to play against each other, the server gathers data from both players and rates their skill level. Once the server has determined each players skill level, it will "level the playing field" so that the worse player doesn't get frustrated and quit. They need players to not quit because they want them to purchase their player packs for their "Ultimate Team" modes where you purchase packs of virtual cards in hopes of getting virtual superstars to put onto your team (For example, you buy more packs hoping to "pull" a Ronaldo in FIFA so he can be on your team). EA Sports makes millions of dollars off of people buying these virtual cards. So they have gone to great lengths to artificially level the playing field between the highly skilled players and the casual players to increase their profit margins. This patent is extremely detailed and can be found online. Here is an excerpt from the EA Sports DDA Patent: "Another solution that may be used in some types of competitive video games , such as racing games , is to vary the ability of the user or the user ' s competitor based on the relationship between the user and the user’s competitor . For example , supposing that the video game is a racing game , the user ' s car may be made faster when the user is doing poorly and may be made slower when the user is doing well . This solution may result in what is sometimes referred to as a “ rubber band effect . ” So here is some food for thought. If video game companies are already using technology like this to artificially level the playing field between skilled and non-skilled players, Wouldn't it be likely that online poker sites, which are making an exponentially more amount of money, be doing something at least as advanced as this?

Baldy86 · Jul 17, 2020

yes it is . I play mostly freerolls nowdays because of that

I am soooo sure that it is rigged . if you want to call me a bad player or whatever go ahead

but nothing will change my mind because I have played online poker for over 10 years now and came to the conclusion . I didnt want to accept it and always found an excuse aka "I just need to improve my game " , "muh variance" , "tilt management" etc etc . ....but nah ....it is rigged period

if you dont like the word rigged then maybe saying that the card generators are not like a real shuffle in a live game sounds better

Artbart805 · Aug 2, 2020

Lieutenant_OH7 said:
Yea I think that comes from the fact that loose and bad players will very often call with a bad hand & eventually still catch something, it's a risk they take but sometimes it pays off.
Can be very frustrating but it's cuz of players like that that poker (mainly the lower stakes) is still profitable..

Or is it because the hands dealt to the good player are just bad, if you seldom get a top 10 or 15 percent hand, you realize that you have to play to win chips, no matter the cards dealt!

Let’s face it, utg, give them AK, on the button make sure the get 10 4 off, or at least we’ll below the expected rate you should get that hand?

BigCountryAA · Aug 3, 2020

My response to anyone that says "why would they cheat, they make so much money on rake?" .....You are either too young or you forgot that Absolute poker and Ultimate Bet both got busted with players using superuser accounts to cheat. It's happened already so ask those companies why they'd cheat. I'm not accusing any current sites... it's just some food for thought.

okeedokalee · Aug 3, 2020

Learn the game. I have made $80 in the last two days. If it is not rigged for me, why would it be rigged for you.

Baldy86 · Aug 5, 2020

okeedokalee said:
Learn the game. I have made $80 in the last two days. If it is not rigged for me, why would it be rigged for you.

loooool . sorry but thats nonsense . only because you made 80 $ in 2 days it doesnt mean anything . I turned 15 euros into 700 in a couple of days . also turned 0 euros into 120 several times . and yet I am still saying it is rigged

Pokerstudy · Aug 5, 2020

I have only had 3 instances where I clearly thought online poker was rigged, now granted I am not an online player (or should say, I am not an online poker expert, I prefer live), but all 3 times really had me really question things (ONLY happened on one site, bot theory..that is a different topic

) ...One that really stood out was when I had top two pair A and J on a dry board and the river hit a 7 and the opponent instacalled my all in on the turn before the river even hit...Giving trip 7s..I thought well, its possible he felt 77s were strong, but what really struck me is him replying "unlucky" the second he called...Now if that does not smell like a superuser, I don't know what would.

The other two times were similar in fashion, but no chat msg..it's as if that superuser was having that extra bit of fun by knowing the river. Not smart to do, considering someone might be posting the move in question for others to ponder lol

I don't want to post the site, because I am not an expert enough to "claim" anything, or to tarnish a sites image, but you can be sure I am not playing there again

Devspuch · Aug 6, 2020

It is very difficult

It is very difficult, and probably almost impossible, to program online poker software to cheat.

Every online poker site is required to use a "random number generator" so that cards from a deck of 52 cards are dealt randomly for each hand.

The random number generator is regularly reviewed by officials to ensure it meets legal requirements. Therefore, for such an impact on the programs, poker rooms need to deliberately break the law.

Moreover, there are extremely high chances that information about such actions will be quickly discovered due to the large volume of online traffic passing through the sites, and this will definitely leave a stain on the reputation of the poker room.

Also, these sites will run the risk that the poker room will be forced to close, and the sites will have to pay huge fines and be liable to the law for these shenanigans. :star:

LitPavel · Aug 15, 2020

At all any casino always in profits and have PS there is its casino, that concerns the most poker on PS the I not think that there all podkruchenno in favor of one or several players, although on PS were bots how I remember this not their but all same this fact. I believe that there are just a lot of players who play loose and all the cards and they just get the right cards as it is logical. Since there are different cards on the table all the time the opponent just gets into them with their hands garbage and you have a maximum of a feed pair. After such moves and you think, well, how can I have a strong hand was how could I lose something for sure there is something wrong, but in fact the opponent just fell out a successful Board))) The only thing left is to learn how to psychologically tolerate moving in poker)

Dalyn · Aug 15, 2020

Maybe we dont know that...

Keith557444 · Aug 16, 2020

no poker is not rigged go to youtube and look at some videos on it for example pokerstars has a video on it and shows the computers in their building and explains the rng

samsonand · Aug 16, 2020

It is possible but according to each platform and the community one has to be guided in which to register, the biggest poker rooms I doubt very much that they are tricked, because I could lose a lot if I did

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timeforachange · Aug 16, 2020

Whether it is rigged or not.. especially in free rolls. You see the same people leading. The same people knowing what cards seem to be coming. Calling all ins with 98 and hitting. Ive done it. And been on the other side as well. ACR. Can’t be legit. It is by far the most corrupt site. Whether winning or losing. The set ups. The turn on a dime software supposed RNG. I won’t ever deposit a dime here and if I happen to win anything in any Freeroll. I sell it for funds to another site. Just my two cents.

lusquinha2020 · Aug 16, 2020

i think so

99TERRANCE99 · Aug 16, 2020

Its possible that it is ,but very unlikely ,people just adapt to what they see winning even if its weird and start playing those types of hands more is my sense of it .

GGthiagoXD · Aug 17, 2020

adjusted mindset. Today I understand that being aware that poker is a game that differs from any game on the planet because it is statistical, we play at the same time technique, money, and cards with people through the software that generate this incredible world of poker my biggest villain this 11 years were the bad beat because I didn't have an open mind to be able to accept the fact that it is my duty to give my best for the best results so my mind has no more space for that. I try to laugh and act in the best way possible by controlling my emotions and understanding the game. ah when i get in the right mindset i will do a lot of FTs.

Zeke67 · Aug 17, 2020

Speed kills

I have thought in the past that it did seem to be rigged. I was burned quite a few times way back when on Absolute But one thing I have come to realize is that the speed of online poker lets the player see so many more hands in an hour that of course we are going to see more suckouts and “miracle” cards on the river. Now I have experienced the chat messages before a card is turned (again on Absolute) and that is why I stopped playing there. Now with all the chat and poker forums if a site was “cheating” everyone would know immediately and that site would not last long. Just my opinion.

GL AND STAY SAFE

PackinPat · Aug 17, 2020

TROS1984 said:
adjusted mindset. Today I understand that being aware that poker is a game that differs from any game on the planet because it is statistical, we play at the same time technique, money, and cards with people through the software that generate this incredible world of poker my biggest villain this 11 years were the bad beat because I didn't have an open mind to be able to accept the fact that it is my duty to give my best for the best results so my mind has no more space for that. I try to laugh and act in the best way possible by controlling my emotions and understanding the game. ah when i get in the right mindset i will do a lot of FTs.

adjusted mindset second hand pocket aces "The money is mine! Lets get it all in! CRACKED Oh well that's poker

StackingZChipz209 · Aug 17, 2020

smile now

TROS1984 said:
adjusted mindset. Today I understand that being aware that poker is a game that differs from any game on the planet because it is statistical, we play at the same time technique, money, and cards with people through the software that generate this incredible world of poker my biggest villain this 11 years were the bad beat because I didn't have an open mind to be able to accept the fact that it is my duty to give my best for the best results so my mind has no more space for that. I try to laugh and act in the best way possible by controlling my emotions and understanding the game. ah when i get in the right mindset i will do a lot of FTs.

I Smile and wave and make myself a smore and go back for MORE lol good luck

tomk7788 · Aug 17, 2020

DeuceParade said:
Here is some food for thought. EA Sports has been caught with a patent called "Dynamic Difficulty Adjustment" (DDA). The premise of the patent is that when 2 players connect to their server to play against each other, the server gathers data from both players and rates their skill level. Once the server has determined each players skill level, it will "level the playing field" so that the worse player doesn't get frustrated and quit. They need players to not quit because they want them to purchase their player packs for their "Ultimate Team" modes where you purchase packs of virtual cards in hopes of getting virtual superstars to put onto your team (For example, you buy more packs hoping to "pull" a Ronaldo in FIFA so he can be on your team). EA Sports makes millions of dollars off of people buying these virtual cards. So they have gone to great lengths to artificially level the playing field between the highly skilled players and the casual players to increase their profit margins. This patent is extremely detailed and can be found online. Here is an excerpt from the EA Sports DDA Patent:"Another solution that may be used in some types of competitive video games , such as racing games , is to vary the ability of the user or the user ' s competitor based on the relationship between the user and the user’s competitor . For example , supposing that the video game is a racing game , the user ' s car may be made faster when the user is doing poorly and may be made slower when the user is doing well . This solution may result in what is sometimes referred to as a “ rubber band effect . ” So here is some food for thought. If video game companies are already using technology like this to artificially level the playing field between skilled and non-skilled players, Wouldn't it be likely that online poker sites, which are making an exponentially more amount of money, be doing something at least as advanced as this?

Poker site Random Number Generators aren't Random. They are designed to level the playing field.

shibdevvar · Aug 18, 2020

Whenever win is our favour we say nothing, and whenever win is favour of your opponent you called badbeat or someone called rigged, Their RNG is generating such that no one can predict who's favour is card is drawn.

hcuervo · Aug 18, 2020

I don't know if it's manipulated, I don't think so, but there are some hands that make you think they want to beat you

FlushyFab · Aug 18, 2020

This is hard to say. But I’m not the only one who’s played online got dealt Pocket Aces the tables been playing crazy, every one raises everything. So when you get the weapons of mass destruction everyone folds to you or insta fold on any raise !!!!!! I believe in Vegas and NJ maybe the sites are more regulated so no funny business. But offshore IDK I still play them tho.

Luvepoker · Aug 18, 2020

Online poker is not rigged. If it was top pros would not make a living playing online poker. It is also in the sites best interest to make sure it is not rigged. If it was proven that site would be done.

Its it perfect I dont know about that but I have never felt cheated online. That being said I have seen collusion and cheating at the casino.

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