rdwr33
Legend
Platinum Level
I believe that everything that involves internet use can be manipulated. ideally, there are ongoing monitoring services for poker games.
D0nk3y Hunt3r
Visionary
Bronze Level
First of all not saying that it's rigged or not, do you, as a regular user, really believe in this shiny certificate from the company which you know nothing about?
Having that said I'd like to point out that, for example, flipping coin 10 times and getting 5 heads in a row, then 5 tails in a row, is still being treated, from probability point of view, as fair.
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HusHussal
Rising Star
Bronze Level
online poker is definetly not rigged. It is not worth the risk for the sites to cheat in any way. Why would they risk such a huge business, just to give you some bad beats. Absolutely impossible.
10gerka
Legend
Platinum Level
First I want to mention that online poker is a very transparent game, we should not doubt that and more when they are rooms that have been in the market for years without problems, second, when we have a good week in poker winning a lot of money, we are happy with ourselves and with poker, but when bad days come (effect of variance) we begin to doubt the veracity of the room, we think that it is rigged, etc., and we do not realize that this game is like that, We think that it is rigged, etc, and we do not realize that this game is like that, the one who should change is us, to have another perspective on poker and try to overcome our emotions when things do not work out, that is why we must always work a lot our mental part related to poker.
nerobs9
Legend
Bronze Level
Good day!
Thanks for the reply, very helpful.
Usually people have a selective memory when they think that they are constantly ahead of them. For example, a small pair always turns into a set. But it's not like that. This happens very rarely, and we remember this moment because it's a shame to lose like this. We forget how we can very easily deal with our opponent with something like 62s when our opponent has opened AA. We take it for granted)
Don't give up and good luck at the tables)
Thanks for the reply, very helpful.
Usually people have a selective memory when they think that they are constantly ahead of them. For example, a small pair always turns into a set. But it's not like that. This happens very rarely, and we remember this moment because it's a shame to lose like this. We forget how we can very easily deal with our opponent with something like 62s when our opponent has opened AA. We take it for granted)
Don't give up and good luck at the tables)
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Schedul1
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I have been playing online for about 6 months now on 4 or 5 sites and I can 100% say from being on both ends, there is hot seats in online poker. I am not very sure why or how they get triggered because they definitely change throughout a tournament. In a tournament the other day I had the nuts 20/20 hands (alot of them I folded) and about 13/20 hands were aces. I'm sure human interaction will change how the algorithm functions but there is definitely something behind the scenes.
meagain00
Legend
Bronze Level
I don't think the game is rigged. Whenever we win a hand, it's all good, but when lose, it is rigged? No. A lot of factors can make us to lose a hand, and we cannot blame others.
Study, focus and be real to yourself about your capabilities.
meagain00
Study, focus and be real to yourself about your capabilities.
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Gipsystripsy
Rock Star
Silver Level
I have uploaded a few pictures. The other day the $1,000,000 jackpot was hit, check out the sharkscope stats of the winners. What do you think about the 3 players?
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1nsomn1a
Visionary
Silver Level
Over the years of playing online poker, I began to react much more calmly, but the only thing that still surprises me is that in some poker rooms, bad bits from players at one happen much more often than in other poker rooms.
YuriSLopes
Rock Star
Bronze Level
I just had the worst week ever where my whole bankroll went to 1% of it all. I'm just upset with the poker gods that have been nice to me for a good period and now decided that I had enough I guess. But I know that there's a good amount of luck in the game and somtimes you may have a bad day, a bad week, a bad month and even a bad year. Just hope that no one have a whole bad life.
D0nk3y Hunt3r
Visionary
Bronze Level
Well, about that, it's actually simple idea: give players lot of promotions, though control the game in such way that they cannot earn enough to withdraw it. I've read about such cases in the past. Of course it's for businesses which aren't doing fine.
Baldy86
Legend
Bronze Level
i am 100% sure that it is rigged . i am sure about it since years . i am only commenting again in this thread since it is active
often there are setups / bait hands . where you get a strong hand that is too good to fold but you will lose to someone (or several plyers) having an even better hand
for example you get 55 and the flop comes 5 - 8 - Q , turn 9 , river 9 and you think nice i have a full house . opponent is very aggressive and you can not fold of course and in the end he shows 88
or several people having a pocket pair at the same time and all of them hit :
like this here that happened to me 2 days ago . and things like this happen NONSTOP to me . i just dont save / screenshot them . but such hands happen nonstop to me
this is not "vArIaNcE" ....it is a setup like many other hands online . i have played many live poker hands and online is very different
often there are setups / bait hands . where you get a strong hand that is too good to fold but you will lose to someone (or several plyers) having an even better hand
for example you get 55 and the flop comes 5 - 8 - Q , turn 9 , river 9 and you think nice i have a full house . opponent is very aggressive and you can not fold of course and in the end he shows 88
or several people having a pocket pair at the same time and all of them hit :
like this here that happened to me 2 days ago . and things like this happen NONSTOP to me . i just dont save / screenshot them . but such hands happen nonstop to me
this is not "vArIaNcE" ....it is a setup like many other hands online . i have played many live poker hands and online is very different
D0nk3y Hunt3r
Visionary
Bronze Level
Very interesting finding. Thank you for that.
D0nk3y Hunt3r
Visionary
Bronze Level
Yes, this shit's real. The thing is that it doesn't necessary mean that it's rigged. If it was, this would mean that hands histories would be wicked, which doesn't seems so far to be the case for biggest rooms.
I don't think highly about "Flip&Go" sngs-alike on GGpoker, though they show how it looks like when everyone goes all in on a table. If not from theory, I would recommend playing few dozens of them just to see what kind of hands appear there. Like all the time.
It's a common to see many strong hands appearing same time on the bubble, same goes for working theory among players about "biggest stack takes all".
What I think is that it's possible to modify probability distribution in such way, that it's still fair yet looks like this. Like I said before, if you throw coin 10 times and you get 5 heads in a row, then same for tails, it's still fair, yet during "downswing" it seems like most rigged piece of shit.
Collision of strong hands does bigger rake. Without this, there wouldn't be big pots.
That's in poker context, not sure about others.
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Gipsystripsy
Rock Star
Silver Level
A very good point. I also notice that people who are convinced that cheating is going on usually draw a conclusion from their own losses. No one would claim manipulation after a big tournament win in online poker. What it requires is a neutral point of view and not exclusively from their own experience and draw more accurate conclusions.
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commie84
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Caught 888poker topping up players in middle of a tournament, does that count
Danaire72
Enthusiast
Silver Level
It is a good question, the truth is that in so many years that I have been playing online poker I have seen things that have made me think about it a lot. I have even come to think that all platforms use the same poker system, because the similarities in which the moves take place are extremely the same, that type of question leaves a lot to think about, many times it is not enough to know how to play well, sometimes if the system chooses you you can go far in a tournament, I have lived it and it has past. And so many other occasions that they throw me is very bad letters. It's all a matter of adaptation
Baldy86
Legend
Bronze Level
i am 100% sure that it is rigged . i am sure about it since years . i am only commenting again in this thread since it is active
often there are setups / bait hands . where you get a strong hand that is too good to fold but you will lose to someone (or several plyers) having an even better hand
for example you get 55 and the flop comes 5 - 8 - Q , turn 9 , river 9 and you think nice i have a full house . opponent is very aggressive and you can not fold of course and in the end he shows 88
or several people having a pocket pair at the same time and all of them hit :
like this here that happened to me 2 days ago . and things like this happen NONSTOP to me . i just dont save / screenshot them . but such hands happen nonstop to me
this is not "vArIaNcE" ....it is a setup like many other hands online . i have played many live poker hands and online is very different
do i need to say something about pokerstars anymore ?
i regularly lose with the better starting hand or get sucked out by 1-4 outers again and again but rarely make screenshots because otherwise would have to do screenshots the whole time .
the post i am quoting i lately posted a ridiculous cold deck hand as you see
but this one just takes the cake . i just got busted with jacks full . and we all went all in on the flop btw. ...just sayin
"vArIaNce" ....yeah keep believing that . i am not even angry anymore . can only laugh about it . however people who try to protect these sites as if their life depends on it are annoying for sure
Sunz of Beaches
Whot a Donk
Platinum Level
These players probably did an add-on in a rebuy tournament. Learn the formats you play first before you throw somw accusations.