“Is the RNG in online poker really fair?”

Poker Orifice · Mar 14, 2026

I heard Pokerstars paid the Donald a couple hundred million and that's why they were able to join up with FunDuo (duel or wtf is it).
And they'd be operating in more states except that they cheated Biden out of money they were going to pay. Yup... Biden... sleepy Joe Biden. And it was a lllllllot! Probably the most ever... actually it was the most in the world!
Do you know how I know this is FACT? Because I think it is and that's all the evidence I need.

Brigistul · Mar 14, 2026

Technically it is possible for the RNG to be correct, but for the software around it to be manipulated,there are platforms where this happens.The big licensed platforms have no interest in doing this.Players do notice real patterns on some weaker sites.Player‑dependent distribution .The software can take into account:

stack sizes
player style
hand history
tournament stage
the amount of rake generated

And it can decide when to use a certain RNG outcome.

rei signo · Mar 15, 2026

finaltable1 said:
Vamos fazer alguns cálculos matemáticos básicos e aplicar um pouco de lógica formal.

Digamos que a taxa de comissão para torneios MTT seja de cerca de 10%...
Digamos que você seja um site de poker e que na aba MTT você tenha cerca de 100 torneios por dia.
Digamos que o prêmio total diário para esses torneios seja de cerca de 1 milhão...

Assim, você recebe cerca de 100 mil em rake por dia!

Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 1.000 por dia com eletricidade e internet, talvez menos, mas digamos que seja 1.000.
Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 10 mil por dia com funcionários e salários, talvez bem menos, mas digamos que sejam 10 mil.
Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 10 mil por dia em publicidade para o seu site, certamente muito menos, mas vamos supor que sejam 10 mil!
Digamos que você gaste em média cerca de 15 mil por dia em rakeback, promoções e freerolls...

Isso deixa você com cerca de 65 mil por dia.
São 6,5% a mais do valor total dos prêmios que você oferece... todos os dias.
Com esses cálculos, você se arriscaria a mexer com o gerador de números aleatórios por algum motivo?

Bots from Game!

daniel.g · Mar 15, 2026

Brigistul said:
Technically it is possible for the RNG to be correct, but for the software around it to be manipulated,there are platforms where this happens.The big licensed platforms have no interest in doing this.Players do notice real patterns on some weaker sites.Player‑dependent distribution .The software can take into account:

stack sizes

player style

hand history

tournament stage

the amount of rake generated

And it can decide when to use a certain RNG outcome.

They all have an interest in it.. we’re talking about millions of dollars… again if truly trusted ones would be licenced in a first world country. I started and play a decent amount on partypoker (one of the bigger reputable sites) and I can tell you the software is poor. Again when you play enough or whatch the games it easier to spot. When you play 4 or more tables at once you’ll see the patterns come up on other tables… different suits hands play out the same. Again still a human element but they make it impossible.. when super tilted you will get QQ KK vs AA or a single A that always draws.. when your on super tilted if you don’t play those hands, you are just trying to bluff your way through, again they can make it impossible for you to win and they can always help you finish in pretty much any place.

If the software wasn’t at work more people would be doing it for a living and the recs and new player wouldn’t last more then a few deposits. (Just like at your local casinos) the providers need those people to keep playing and if given a win here or there it gove the impression they are good or have a chance.

I’ll be the first to admit live poker I don’t stand a chance.. I’m awful like even when I play with my friends hanging out.. online.. I win tournaments often and can grind the hell out of cash tables.. am I good at poker.. no.. do I understand how some providers softwares work.. yeah.. 888 poker and partypoker are super weak when it comes to the patterns.. all you have to do to cash in tournaments is not get sucked in out of position with a decent hand haha

TheniT · Mar 15, 2026

I believe that poker sites are audited, so yes, I believe that the RNG is really fair, although I confess that on some days it's hard to believe.

rhoudini · Mar 15, 2026

One thing that helped me accept the RNG is looking at the math side of poker, even if you get your money in with 80% equity, that still means you lose 1 out of 5 times on average, so over thousands of hands that happens a lot more often than people expect. If you add tilt and selective memory and suddenly it feels like the site is “against you,” when it’s really just variance doing its thing.

miklcct · Mar 16, 2026

The first cash game hand I played with my new account on PartyPoker, I got dealt AA, shoved and ran into another AA. The very next hand I got dealt AA as well. I started thinking if it was real.

Baco · Mar 16, 2026

In my opinion, the RNG in major online poker sites is very likely fair. These platforms are usually audited by independent regulators, and if the system were manipulated it would be extremely risky for the company. Their entire business depends on player trust.

That said, online poker variance can feel much more intense than live poker. There are a few reasons for that:

Much higher volume – online players can play hundreds or thousands of hands in a single session, so you experience more swings in a shorter period of time.
Multi-tabling – playing several tables at once increases the number of situations where you see bad beats.
Faster dealing – hands happen much faster online than live.

Because of this, it can sometimes feel like the RNG is suspicious, especially during brutal downswings. But statistically, when you analyze very large hand samples, the distributions tend to match what probability theory predicts.

Most experienced players who track millions of hands eventually realize that what feels like “rigged” is usually just variance combined with volume.

Poker is a long-term game, and sometimes the short-term can look very strange.

ninocabral · Mar 16, 2026

completely random, it's not, several situations repeat themselves over several hands, repeated plays always happen and just notice

Rob Hobson · Mar 18, 2026

May be fair but different from live.

miric007 · May 31, 2026

daniel.g said:
Personally I don’t think it’s fair, if you play enough hands you will start to see patterns. You’ll notice when the tables get stale close to the pays (AA vs KK… AK vs AQ)… you’ll also notice when you are tilted on a provider… the only time you’ll ever take down a pot is when you have the nuts with no cards left to play. (Personally, online tilt shouldn’t be a thing if the cards are truely random) you wouldn’t often finding yourself on a super tilt where whoever you play against will make their hand. (When on tilt, personally I bet heavily on good hands and try and scare everyone off instead of collecting chips like I would normally do) then I quickly change poker providers and play on a different site for a few days till the “tilts” gone.

People that keep saying it’s not fake or that you see so many more hands… don’t really understand math.. or logic. I don’t have any proof but anyone who’s played a few hundred hours of online poker will tell you one of two things…

It’s not random or the hands are preset for action.

Online casinos make money from the take right? Well they don’t make as much rake (or anywhere close) as they do when they tilt the results so bad players win (and keep cycling money) and they don’t make as much money from wild gamblers… that guy who goes all in off the hop..? He’s going to go into another10 tournaments (10 more rake fees) while you still on your second hand in the first tournament…

For people to think online casinos and poker rooms are not rampant with fraud… you need to stop being so gullible..

One simple question for the folks who don’t think it’s rigged… why don’t these companies operate in North America.. or even England? Pragmatic gaming… evolution gaming.. and why do all their licenses come from native tribes and not official governments of first world countries… like these people are making hundreds of millions of dollars… why do it from a third world country…. Oh wait…

All of that said, you can still win as their is a human element to it.. but it’s like running a race against an Olympic runner while you wear a weighted vest.

Have you ever played live poker?
From the way you talk, it sounds like the dealers are rigging the cards, too. You speak as if hands like AA vs. KK and AK vs. AQ only come when the ITM bubble is near—that makes no sense; those hands come throughout the entire tournament. If you don't believe me, go to a live poker tournament sometime—you'll see and experience all sorts of things.

Brigistul · May 31, 2026

Online isn’t “worse”, it’s just faster. What you see in one month online would take six months live. That’s why bad beats feel “too frequent.The RNG is fair. The software only displays the result.

Goggelheimer · May 31, 2026

eberetta1 said:
Yeah. as a software writer, I know the RNG may be good, but I can program the code to let seat 2 win 10 hands in a row no matter what the RNG returns. The only thing I can't do is whisper into seat 2's ear, don't fold. You got this.

The Cards are shuffeled randomly by the RNG, what happens after the RNG is another thing.

Also the RNG certifying is done with large numbers of shuffle (RNG rounds) processes.
These numbers are significantly higher than that what a human player can play if he has not an infinte bankroll.
Some significant things are massive numbers of premiums/pairs in a row ( 3 or 4 times AA(or any other paires hand) in less than 213 hands played by a player) and so on.

The RNG can not be fair or unfair, it can be statistical correct thats all.
The mechanics that the poker room implements to be profitable make the difference.
Things like seating algorythms to slow down winnings,
the online pokerroom is free to seat you at a table full of fish or to seat you at a table full of pro sharks.
online poker is only profitable if there is some kind of algorythm that keeps the pokerroom safe.
If you dig deeper you will find that one of the bigger rooms would have gone bankrupt,
if this room did not implement winning controll systems into their software.

fernandovr · Jun 1, 2026

Absolutely. Every player goes through moments when a sequence of results seems impossible and starts to raise doubts. But in my case, if I didn't believe the system was random and fair, there would be no reason to keep playing. Variance is part of the game, no matter how brutal it may seem at times.

Lodestone · Jun 1, 2026

Brigistul said:
Technically it is possible for the RNG to be correct, but for the software around it to be manipulated,there are platforms where this happens.The big licensed platforms have no interest in doing this.Players do notice real patterns on some weaker sites.Player‑dependent distribution .The software can take into account:

stack sizes

player style

hand history

tournament stage

the amount of rake generated

And it can decide when to use a certain RNG outcome.

How on earth have you been on a poker forum for over a decade and still think this?

1. Audits happen on things like this.
2. The risk to the poker room would not be worth favoring one play over another.
3. Remarkably complicated, at least one dev team would have to be involved- and no whistleblower? For a large room, the story would be worth thousands if not tens of thousands to any leaker.

Cheating and rigging stories happen but its nearly never the RNG... Because why would it be? The room could easily just run bots that beat the player pool. JackPoker has articles written about it meeting GTDs by filling tables with bots. That's far easier, profitable, and lower risk.

Brigistul · Jun 1, 2026

Lodestone said:
How on earth have you been on a poker forum for over a decade and still think this?

1. Audits happen on things like this.
2. The risk to the poker room would not be worth favoring one play over another.
3. Remarkably complicated, at least one dev team would have to be involved- and no whistleblower? For a large room, the story would be worth thousands if not tens of thousands to any leaker.

Cheating and rigging stories happen but its nearly never the RNG... Because why would it be? The room could easily just run bots that beat the player pool. JackPoker has articles written about it meeting GTDs by filling tables with bots. That's far easier, profitable, and lower risk.

I’m not disputing audits or the fact that the RNG itself is fair. The point is different: the software and the RNG operate together, and in real play you see extremely low‑probability runouts happening far more often online than live. I’m not talking about “rigged”, but about platform dynamics, timing, huge hand volume, and how the software handles real‑time distribution. These are legitimate questions, not conspiracy theories.

Lodestone · Jun 1, 2026

Literally nothing in that statement was a 'question' lmao

As for live being safer- again LMAO

Here's a reddit post from not even 2 weeks ago with a dealer cheating by dealing off the top of the deck to get more tips from big hands clashing.

Find me a single news story about rigged poker RNG.

Brigistul · Jun 1, 2026

Lodestone said:
Literally nothing in that statement was a 'question' lmao

As for live being safer- again LMAO

Here's a reddit post from not even 2 weeks ago with a dealer cheating by dealing off the top of the deck to get more tips from big hands clashing.

Find me a single news story about rigged poker RNG.

Yes, I said live feels safer — simply because you can physically see the shuffle and the dealer. That doesn’t mean the online RNG is rigged. I was talking about player perception, not conspiracies. Online you see far more hands and far more unlikely runouts, which is why the discussion even exists. That’s all.

Poker Orifice · Jun 1, 2026

Some HUGE donks in this thread.

Lodestone · Jun 1, 2026

Poker Orifice said:
Some HUGE donks in this thread.

I'm assuming you mean me because I am on the poker subreddit. Rude.

💔

RENEY444 · Jun 1, 2026

If you want to really be confused about the shuffler play plo or plo8 on ACR , Once you have folded your discards go back into the live deck !

WellAA · Jun 1, 2026

daniel.g said:
today I make about 10k playing poker as my side hustle

Good for You. Difficult to believe though, based on Your basic questions about RNG.

daniel.g said:
I found my niche in sports betting and it’s been my full time job for about 15 years now

winning 10k monthly In poker and how much in sports betting?

daniel.g said:
If it’s banned in some places it’s because it’s rigged look at what Brazil just did

About Brazil I actually could say something: Brazil has grown into a global poker powerhouse, legally classifying the game as a mind sport of skill rather than gambling. The country boasts a massive, dedicated player base, numerous professional training "stables," and is the host nation of the globally recognized World Poker Federation.
In BH we have 2 big rooms: Sierra Poker e Automovel Club Poker with cash and tourneys daily.
We have Neymar and Ronaldo as poker ambassador.

Poker Orifice · Jun 1, 2026

Lodestone said:
I'm assuming you mean me because I am on the poker subreddit. Rude.

💔

I actually didn't read your post, lol. Pretty sure you know which people/posts on here I'm talking about

machinm19 · Jun 1, 2026

The way I see the Ops initial question is like this, if you want to play online you have to use a sites RNG so even if some do not believe it is fair its the only choice. Stick to the big sites if you're uncertain as they have great security.

Lodestone · Jun 1, 2026

RENEY444 said:
If you want to really be confused about the shuffler play plo or plo8 on ACR , Once you have folded your discards go back into the live deck !

That's so crazy I didn't even believe you but I found this thread on google.

While its an interesting feature- it wouldn't be necessary if their site wasn't infested with bots and RTA players. Management is also so stupid that they thought it would be wise to invite more bots to play there then backtracked a day later. Time after time ACR and its reps have shown itself to be untrustworthy and no one should play there. Coinpoker is better in every way.

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