“Is the RNG in online poker really fair?”

I heard Pokerstars paid the Donald a couple hundred million and that's why they were able to join up with FunDuo (duel or wtf is it).
And they'd be operating in more states except that they cheated Biden out of money they were going to pay. Yup... Biden... sleepy Joe Biden. And it was a lllllllot! Probably the most ever... actually it was the most in the world!
Do you know how I know this is FACT? Because I think it is and that's all the evidence I need.

Technically it is possible for the RNG to be correct, but for the software around it to be manipulated,there are platforms where this happens.The big licensed platforms have no interest in doing this.Players do notice real patterns on some weaker sites.Player‑dependent distribution .The software can take into account:

• stack sizes
• player style
• hand history
• tournament stage
• the amount of rake generated

And it can decide when to use a certain RNG outcome.

finaltable1 said:

Vamos fazer alguns cálculos matemáticos básicos e aplicar um pouco de lógica formal.

Digamos que a taxa de comissão para torneios MTT seja de cerca de 10%...
Digamos que você seja um site de poker e que na aba MTT você tenha cerca de 100 torneios por dia.
Digamos que o prêmio total diário para esses torneios seja de cerca de 1 milhão...

Assim, você recebe cerca de 100 mil em rake por dia!

Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 1.000 por dia com eletricidade e internet, talvez menos, mas digamos que seja 1.000.
Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 10 mil por dia com funcionários e salários, talvez bem menos, mas digamos que sejam 10 mil.
Você gasta, digamos, cerca de 10 mil por dia em publicidade para o seu site, certamente muito menos, mas vamos supor que sejam 10 mil!
Digamos que você gaste em média cerca de 15 mil por dia em rakeback, promoções e freerolls...

Isso deixa você com cerca de 65 mil por dia.
São 6,5% a mais do valor total dos prêmios que você oferece... todos os dias.
Com esses cálculos, você se arriscaria a mexer com o gerador de números aleatórios por algum motivo?

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Bots from Game!

Brigistul said:

Technically it is possible for the RNG to be correct, but for the software around it to be manipulated,there are platforms where this happens.The big licensed platforms have no interest in doing this.Players do notice real patterns on some weaker sites.Player‑dependent distribution .The software can take into account:

• stack sizes
• player style
• hand history
• tournament stage
• the amount of rake generated

And it can decide when to use a certain RNG outcome.

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They all have an interest in it.. we’re talking about millions of dollars… again if truly trusted ones would be licenced in a first world country. I started and play a decent amount on partypoker (one of the bigger reputable sites) and I can tell you the software is poor. Again when you play enough or whatch the games it easier to spot. When you play 4 or more tables at once you’ll see the patterns come up on other tables… different suits hands play out the same. Again still a human element but they make it impossible.. when super tilted you will get QQ KK vs AA or a single A that always draws.. when your on super tilted if you don’t play those hands, you are just trying to bluff your way through, again they can make it impossible for you to win and they can always help you finish in pretty much any place.

If the software wasn’t at work more people would be doing it for a living and the recs and new player wouldn’t last more then a few deposits. (Just like at your local casinos) the providers need those people to keep playing and if given a win here or there it gove the impression they are good or have a chance.

I’ll be the first to admit live poker I don’t stand a chance.. I’m awful like even when I play with my friends hanging out.. online.. I win tournaments often and can grind the hell out of cash tables.. am I good at poker.. no.. do I understand how some providers softwares work.. yeah.. 888 poker and partypoker are super weak when it comes to the patterns.. all you have to do to cash in tournaments is not get sucked in out of position with a decent hand haha

I believe that poker sites are audited, so yes, I believe that the RNG is really fair, although I confess that on some days it's hard to believe.

One thing that helped me accept the RNG is looking at the math side of poker, even if you get your money in with 80% equity, that still means you lose 1 out of 5 times on average, so over thousands of hands that happens a lot more often than people expect. If you add tilt and selective memory and suddenly it feels like the site is “against you,” when it’s really just variance doing its thing.

The first cash game hand I played with my new account on PartyPoker, I got dealt AA, shoved and ran into another AA. The very next hand I got dealt AA as well. I started thinking if it was real.

In my opinion, the RNG in major online poker sites is very likely fair. These platforms are usually audited by independent regulators, and if the system were manipulated it would be extremely risky for the company. Their entire business depends on player trust.


That said, online poker variance can feel much more intense than live poker. There are a few reasons for that:

1. Much higher volume – online players can play hundreds or thousands of hands in a single session, so you experience more swings in a shorter period of time.
2. Multi-tabling – playing several tables at once increases the number of situations where you see bad beats.
3. Faster dealing – hands happen much faster online than live.

Because of this, it can sometimes feel like the RNG is suspicious, especially during brutal downswings. But statistically, when you analyze very large hand samples, the distributions tend to match what probability theory predicts.


Most experienced players who track millions of hands eventually realize that what feels like “rigged” is usually just variance combined with volume.


Poker is a long-term game, and sometimes the short-term can look very strange.

completely random, it's not, several situations repeat themselves over several hands, repeated plays always happen and just notice

May be fair but different from live.