Do you believe online poker is not random?

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elchonga said:
I think online poker is random.
When you play face-to-face tournaments, you realize that the same hands are dealt as in online poker.
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Obviously any dealings of cards will be random (Whether live or online).

What should give the biggest impression of RNG online is that you see hundreds of more hands in online poker, which makes the variance much more noticeable than live.

What will continue to determine your profits or not will still be your final decision.

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I think that it's all in the head of every person, playing live you see your opponent, playing online no, and you can afford to take risks
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That's why I believe that the thrill of playing live is incomparable. However, the profitability of online can never be disregarded.
 
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Random does not exist!!! They try to make it lock alike, but it's not! Yeah, bigger stacks can call easier blablabla, but the suckouts of today prove the opposit. QQ>King on the flop, KK> A on the flop, AK>66 I hit the King, but pocket pair makes a STRAIGHT (RANDOM) sooo Random lmfao. Suited Ace lost to a flush of unsuited hand . And BTW, how can they do a rabbit hole although it is "RANDOM"???
Never a hand withoput a sweat, never a flop without equity for everyone...in which Universe can this be any close to Random?
 
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danoscar said:
Hello. I am concerned. It appears that ACR has an algorithm that eliminates players that bet against a larger bank. Especially toward breaks and toward the end of the MTT (final table). Does anyone feel the same?
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I don't think so. poker sites deal a great number of hands very quickly. The large amount of hands tive off this impression
 
yes for sure random, but it makes poker more statistic because of the variety of hands
 
I did not notice it. But I think the main thing in poker is your skills, experience and of course luck. I don't think there are any specially designed algorithms against players. Poker is not a casino.
 
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If I do believe it's not random, at all, I would not play.
 
It all depends on yourself, to believe in randomness and reassure yourself with long-term results, or to convince yourself that everything is unfair and stop playing poker for money.
 
For me poker is feeling of card together with intuition and calculation of probability
 
I think it will be random enough that no one will be able to spot the pattern and take advantage of it. If someone can spot the pattern without cheating, then he is super player, just like the poker god.
 
I believe that poker rooms are fair to the players in equal measure. I'm so calmer.🙂
 
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Random does not exist!!! ….
Never a hand withoput a sweat, never a flop without equity for everyone...in which Universe can this be any close to Random?
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Lol in what universe is every hand a sweat or a flop without equity, it happens way more than aa vs kk or the long shots that win like you think.
Maybe play 10s of thousands of hands and then go back and view them all and come back with any shred of proof that it isn’t normal percentages.
People have programs and have looked into this for decades, with 100s of thousands of hands…all legit.
Go sit at a live game (for months on end) track every hand and you will see all the same kind of things happen, just way slower…
 
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Lol in what universe is every hand a sweat or a flop without equity, it happens way more than aa vs kk or the long shots that win like you think.
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I dont know also, where people play, if they dont experience all those trivial hands, where someone raise preflop, but nobody defends. Or 4 people limp, and then it gets checked to the river, because nobody really has anything. Those kind of trivial hands are far more common than big action flop or sick bad beats. But I guess, its just human nature to notice and remember the unusual more than the trivial. Especially since losing a bit pot is much more painfull than winning 10 small pots is joyfull 😉
 
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Of course, it is not accidental, this is a software control created to attract players' funds, this is a business for earning rooms, there are pluses and minuses, minuses are possible bots, and pluses that everyone can now play this game without leaving home.
 
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This is going to be an extension of the rigged megathread, no doubt. It's the same questions and answers over and over again.

Why would poker sites need to run an elimination bot? To speed up games and increase pot sizes. Faster games mean more fees. Larger pot sizes mean more rake. Together, this leads to increased profits.

Why do chip leaders seem to get lucky and bust out smaller stacks? Obviously because smaller stacks can't bust larger stacks. Smaller stacks double up. The question is: do you remember how many smaller stacks doubled up against big stacks? Or do you just remember when the big stacks eliminate the small stacks?

If you want to really see what is going on, you have to watch what happens not only to you but to others at your table and at other tables. Only then can you start to get a picture of whether or not something strange is going on. Until more people start doing that and, better yet, until there is real data being collected about the types of boards that show up over time at tables, all we will ever see are opinions.
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Interesting that you have a good perspective. Truth is no one knows. Our minds are not able to consume the volume of numbers and make sense of it. But a tracker does. Gather that info and see what you see.
After you do that you will have to decide. Are you feeling sites off or am I just that unlucky. Either way do you want to put your money there?

Real problem is cheating on the cash tables. Sites are trying but hiding players names temporarily is a waisted effort. They just log into the same table. I'm not meaning multiple people but multiple accounts played by the same person. I tested my theory by using four cell phones with 4 accounts. Was to easy.

Was disappointing enough I walked away from online. Just recently started playing again since I'm recovering from surgery. Be careful and good luck.
 
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Well, for now, we will proceed from the fact that everything is in order with the RNG and the algorithms are completely random, since the opposite has not been proven)
 
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I think that even if it is not random you are playing against another person which gives you more possibilities
 
I don't believe poker sites interfere with the game in that way. I don't think this interference makes much sense.
 
I remember thinking PokerStars was rigged back in the day, but this was when I was totally new to the game.

Over time I came to realize that I simply remembered the beats I took more vividly than the times I got it in bad and won. There have been some scandals in the past, but at this point in time I don't see any evidence that today's sites are "rigged" in any way.
 
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Worst hand wins. That's why I love slap and tickle time at the final table.
 
Nope, When I first signed up for a specific site I got dealt 2 four of a kind hands in a row then a few hands later another 4 of a kind. No way that was random
 
There are a lot of combinations in poker. Therefore, talking about the trickiness of the Random Number Generator is probably very stupid.
 
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The volume of hands experienced may add to the perception that online poker is rigged - so more "weird" outcomes are experienced as a result of more hands being played by individuals.

My personal (and limited) experience is that the built-in variance which is inherent to the game is about the same for live and for online games.
 
i do..

For over 15 years playing at Poker Stars, I'm absolutely sure it's not random, because the moves are always repeated.. KK losing to A2 - AA losing to 45 with pre-flop shove and so many other hands happening in various poker rooms..😡
 
It seems to me that online poker is primarily intended for the profit of its founders. And, of course, they have their own strategy on how to attract and captivate the client. Luck comes to the client by a sine wave.
 
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