Why am I leaving Poker Stars?

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Im not sure about your understanding about variance, major downswings are part of the game and if you play a high volume they are uninvitable. You said you were making between 70 and 120 Dollars daily only on 5-10 Dollar sng's on the toughest site? How is that even possible and how many games did you play daily? I have a hard time to believe that to be honest and i believe you were just sunrunning for a while and that run now stopped. It has nothing to do with ps cheating you lol.

Will be not different on other sites and good luck finding any decent sng traffic anywhere these days.
 
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Hi.
I have never had any problems with PokerStars. I have always believed and now believe that this is one of the best and most reliable sites. I am sorry to hear that you had such an unpleasant situation. Bring your attention to 888, it's my favorite site at the moment.
Good luck.
 
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Will be not different on other sites and good luck finding any decent sng traffic anywhere these days.
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Exactly. Also his complaint about PokerStars not giving enough rewards to regs like himself, poker sites are not exactly crawing for regs these days, because regs are thought to suck money out of the "ecosystem". So yeah... if OP dont like, what is being offered to him by PS, he is free to try other sites. But he might end up discovering, that the grass is actually not greener elsewhere 😉
 
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Exactly. Also his complaint about PokerStars not giving enough rewards to regs like himself, poker sites are not exactly crawing for regs these days, because regs are thought to suck money out of the "ecosystem". So yeah... if OP dont like, what is being offered to him by PS, he is free to try other sites. But he might end up discovering, that the grass is actually not greener elsewhere 😉
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And if he finds this other good site he is dreaming of he should be carefull to not write any negative comments or his daily 70-120 dollars that he earns with 5 to 10 dollar sit and goes might be in danger there too.
 
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I believe that PokerStars is a reliable site. At least I didn't have such a negative experience as you. I hope you will still be able to change your impression, perhaps there was some misunderstanding in your case.
 
I also don't think PokerStars would risk losing their license. PokerStars doesn't really care if you win or lose because it depends on the fee each player pays. The more players play, the better for PokerStars.
That's a thing with the chests: You have 28 days to earn the 7/7 chests in order to graduate a chest level. One chest every 4 days on average. That's not without. The best thing is to take a screenshot after reaching a chest to protect yourself.
Basically you are right! It would be easy for a PokerStars supporter to betray you, but it's not likely. Your account is more likely to be attacked by a third party, but not by PokerStars. That would destroy PokerStars if it got out and it would over time. Certainly!
 
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pokerstars is one of the best poker rooms, one of the most serious in terms of security and the game itself, but I'm sorry for what happened to you, but you should not think that they manipulate the system to lose, I doubt it very much, but as for the rakeback if you are right.
 
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MattRyder said:
You’re a fan - great!

Just saying Pokerstars had a singular focus back in the day, and a great rewards program, which I personally liked. You missed the main focus of my post. I understand that.

Then they changed, they grew and expanded into everything commercial. You like that - again good for you.

You’ve slept through the regular crashes. We all have lives. You missed the consistently bad reviews. We can’t all keep up.

You don’t mind having your computer scanned every second you’re connected to Pokerstars. I get it - you’re a fan. Personally I see absolutely no valid reason for them to do that.
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Many assumptions... most of them wrong. Not surprised.
 
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No they dont. Especially not after bonuses can not be used, unless you lost all your regular funds first.
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I had $130 hung up as a 'bonus' which actually was player-to-player transfers from CC members. At the time I just assumed it'd just be worked off even though I play very minimal amounts on that site (but had hopes/plans of playing more when I did the transfers... plus I just wanted to help a couple guys out on here to get their $$'s off of 888).
1 year later... bonus $130. Huh? I haven't played much but surely it is more than 'zero', lol.

CC member in 888 thread gave me a workaround idea to clear the bonus. I tried it. Bonus cleared in 2 or 3 days.
I entered a bunch of MTT's that were open for early reg. (on the following day... ie. on Thurs. I'm entering Fri. & Sat. tourneys). Once I've got my entire bankroll entered in tourneys I'm not going to play, then I play with the Bonus.
A totally ridiculous thing for sure!
 
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I had $130 hung up as a 'bonus' which actually was player-to-player transfers from CC members. At the time I just assumed it'd just be worked off even though I play very minimal amounts on that site (but had hopes/plans of playing more when I did the transfers... plus I just wanted to help a couple guys out on here to get their $$'s off of 888).
1 year later... bonus $130. Huh? I haven't played much but surely it is more than 'zero', lol.

CC member in 888 thread gave me a workaround idea to clear the bonus. I tried it. Bonus cleared in 2 or 3 days.
I entered a bunch of MTT's that were open for early reg. (on the following day... ie. on Thurs. I'm entering Fri. & Sat. tourneys). Once I've got my entire bankroll entered in tourneys I'm not going to play, then I play with the Bonus.
A totally ridiculous thing for sure!
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Oh god for real that's how player-to-player transfer works on 888? 😱 That's outrageous. I've never used it there and it looks like I will never will. Thanks for letting us know!
 
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I also don't think PokerStars would risk losing their license. PokerStars doesn't really care if you win or lose because it depends on the fee each player pays. The more players play, the better for PokerStars.
That's a thing with the chests: You have 28 days to earn the 7/7 chests in order to graduate a chest level. One chest every 4 days on average. That's not without. The best thing is to take a screenshot after reaching a chest to protect yourself.
Basically you are right! It would be easy for a PokerStars supporter to betray you, but it's not likely. Your account is more likely to be attacked by a third party, but not by PokerStars. That would destroy PokerStars if it got out and it would over time. Certainly!
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How is there any possible way to proove that a poker sites can manipulate the deck? Any algorithm can be adjusted… how can this possibility be proven? If it’s an internal team- obviously they wouldn’t shoot themselves in the foot. I would like to see 3rd party mediators have the ability to monitor activity at will. You can’t prove with 100% certainty that poker sites don’t manipulate hands on occasion. You can just hope and trust that they don’t. It’s a tough pill to swallow lol
 
PS has become very boring - many interesting tournaments and formats have been removed (
 
Well, I do not believe, I do not believe in all the attacks on the PS. Of all the participants, it was your account that was hacked, what, for what? Cancel reward? Rave.
Earn further your $70-120 a day and rejoice silently, without squealing, that you are being deceived.
 
Wish Pokerstars does not have monopoly/so big share in poker market. There should be 2 3 big sites as big as PS to have good offers from multiple sites
 
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Wish Pokerstars does not have monopoly/so big share in poker market. There should be 2 3 big sites as big as PS to have good offers from multiple sites
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Have you ever heard of GG poker? The times when stars had a monopol are long gone.
 
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I had the same feeling a month ago. when i started to withdraw money from PS. A thousand bad beats per day came crashing down on me. I couldn't believe it, there were weeks where I lost a lot, and I don't know if I started playing badly or the PS was against me 🙁...
Surely they are sensations, I hope and trust in PS because it is a giant company and it would be unfortunate to know that by keeping recreational they take away amounts with pure bad beat 🙁
 
If you played 888Poker with the amount of bad beats that happens to you daily, you wouldn't even remember PokerStars, shi* is crazy
but overall they're one of the best poker sites and based on my knowledge they're 100% legit.
 
now these are the realities of online poker, this is their business and you were hooked almost on a salary, you are not such an interesting player to them, and you will play like that
 
It's sad to hear your history. I don't believe 100% in any poker room too, but if you were adapted to your new professional poker life, maybe it's a good idea to try a new room because $100-$120 daily winnings is a good amount in our country (I'm also from Brazil). I play more on 888poker, but for sit'gos it's awful, even in micro-small stakes they don't have traffic. Like others said, GGpoker supposed to be as big as PS, but I don't play there because other rooms offers better option for cash out for us brazilians.
 
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I also don't think PokerStars would risk losing their license. PokerStars doesn't really care if you win or lose because it depends on the fee each player pays. The more players play, the better for PokerStars.
That's a thing with the chests: You have 28 days to earn the 7/7 chests in order to graduate a chest level. One chest every 4 days on average. That's not without. The best thing is to take a screenshot after reaching a chest to protect yourself.
Basically you are right! It would be easy for a PokerStars supporter to betray you, but it's not likely. Your account is more likely to be attacked by a third party, but not by PokerStars. That would destroy PokerStars if it got out and it would over time. Certainly!
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Yes, today in addition to the cash control I take a print every day at the end of the games.

The only certainty I have is that it was someone with access to the system, as this possibility for a client to make this change of the chest within the level is not allowed.

As for the fans, I don't care, even because I was one...
Even because we study to better understand more and more, and this is perhaps the point that the big rooms take to take advantage.

My focus is just documenting what happened and protecting someone who is about to go through something like this.
 
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It's sad to hear your history. I don't believe 100% in any poker room too, but if you were adapted to your new professional poker life, maybe it's a good idea to try a new room because $100-$120 daily winnings is a good amount in our country (I'm also from Brazil). I play more on 888poker, but for sit'gos it's awful, even in micro-small stakes they don't have traffic. Like others said, GGpoker supposed to be as big as PS, but I don't play there because other rooms offers better option for cash out for us brazilians.
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Very happy for your comment. You understand the meaning of $2~3k for our country.

I don't see the possibility of playing in GG since there is only 6 max.

I would have to study the format and adapt my game, it would take time I don't want to spend now lol
 
there is such a pattern - just withdrew money and a week of moving begins immediately
 
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