just a chat I had with my husband the other day, I really hate it when big sporting company's place betting adverts on football games, (He has a past history of addiction but he manages to kill the urge ) he was watching a game a few days ago and he felt the need to bet, though I convinced him other wise he still has the urge now and then. how do you all feel about this there was a discussion on banning betting firms with those adverts (Here in the UK) at prime time football games
The problem is you're not having to rush to the store and buy it. You jump on the computer or easier still get your phone out and make a bet.
And for anyone who bets on sport, if you're watching the adverts at half-time and Ray Winstone offers odds on so-and-so to score next, you think about it for a second and decide not to bother, and then it happens in the second half, you're kicking yourself for not making the bet and it just makes it all the more tempting the next time. In other words, even if you don't act on the commercial, you're then hoping the thing you didn't bet on doesn't happen in the 2nd half, so it still ruins your enjoyment.
There was supposed to be a ban on advertising during the game so maybe those half-time adverts don't happen any more, i'm not sure (i lost all interest in soccer after project restart) but even if that rule has been enforced, they'll still get round it by advertising immediately before the game. Enough clubs are sponsored by gambling companies etc
And for anyone who bets on sport, if you're watching the adverts at half-time and Ray Winstone offers odds on so-and-so to score next, you think about it for a second and decide not to bother, and then it happens in the second half, you're kicking yourself for not making the bet and it just makes it all the more tempting the next time. In other words, even if you don't act on the commercial, you're then hoping the thing you didn't bet on doesn't happen in the 2nd half, so it still ruins your enjoyment.
There was supposed to be a ban on advertising during the game so maybe those half-time adverts don't happen any more, i'm not sure (i lost all interest in soccer after project restart) but even if that rule has been enforced, they'll still get round it by advertising immediately before the game. Enough clubs are sponsored by gambling companies etc
Davey_H said:
Yes it is so easy now to go online and just bet before you would go to the bookies down the high street and make the bet, now at a click of button your wasting away monies that you hadn't set as aide. they still do the half time adverts and the fact that football clubs have betting companies as sponsors is silly, I personally believe that they should be banned from being sponsors to get more folk on their website like they banned Wonga on hearts of Midlothian
If they can't be sponsored by cigs or alcohol anymore (I'm assuming alcohol - I remember a time when McEwans Lager seemed to sponsor half the professional teams in the UK! but can't think of any now - Chang Beer with Everton's the last one I can think of and that was at least 4 years ago now), and like you say, even payday loan firms can't sponsor teams, then it seems crazy that gambling's OK. Especially given how much it's associated with the sport.
In fact every club and I think even the premier league itself has a "betting partner" or "official bookmaker". And how seedy is Wayne Rooney's move to Derby County?!
Can you imagine the reaction if they had "official cigarettes" or "official payday loan firm" of the premier league?!
In fact every club and I think even the premier league itself has a "betting partner" or "official bookmaker". And how seedy is Wayne Rooney's move to Derby County?!
Can you imagine the reaction if they had "official cigarettes" or "official payday loan firm" of the premier league?!
KLDUFF1987 said:
KLDUFF1987 -
Some time ago in the News Section when it was announced the UK was trying to curb access to gambling, I took the opportunity to write some scathing posts about the reality of gambling in the UK.
In the first place successive UK governments themselves have for generations allowed a gambling culture to develop with impunity- I pointed out the staggering number of betting shops peppered into every corner of the UK.
I then linked to football and noted in the Premier League and Championship, the majority of teams were sponsored by betting companies. Currently seventeen PL teams have betting company logos across their chests.
I then contrasted to the USA to point out advertising of any kind is not allowed on team jerseys- the NFL, NBA and MLB as the top pro sports are allowed to sport little but their teams logos and player number. The idea anyone would allow Tom Brady or LeBron James to play with Bet365 emblazoned on their shirts is laughable.
I have had arguments for years as to why betting and brewing companies (another favorite over the years in the UK) are allowed to advertise in this manner within sports. The counter argument is that if the Premier League allowed advertising on team jerseys in the first place, then you can't discriminate between a car company and a betting company. Fair enough. Except of course it begs the question why a global sport such as football, the most popular/lucrative in the world had to wring every penny of profit it could from such sponsorship.
Abject greed.
I don't see any problem. Betting, poker, lottery and even other diverse forms of entertainment will always have people with problems in relation to addiction, even in relation to food, such as Pepsi, Coke, fast foods there will always be people with addictions...
I think that this issue must be resolved by each person individually or with their family.
I think that this issue must be resolved by each person individually or with their family.
DS3 said:
same reason they were beginning to struggle to control crowds prior to it all going behind closed doors - rather than spend a molecule of their wealth and matchday income to properly police the grounds, they prefer to have the bare minimum police presence (mostly covered by the taxpayer, I think) and then employ stewards on minimum wage. (And that's nothing against anyone who's been a matchday steward, it's more that the police have more power and authority if anyone starts acting up)
And I had to laugh in December when some grounds could allow socially distanced fans back in, and instead of spreading them all over the stadium (like at NFL games last season) they crammed them all in to one stand - presumably because they were too cheap to spend any of their billions on matchday expenses for all 4 sides of the ground, something that would be a drop in the ocean on the balance sheet.
Nothing to do with betting i know but it just shows what they're up against with the sheer greed and lack of care of the "best league in the world"
Abject greed sums it up brilliantly
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Davey_H said:
Agreed with the crowds, the stewards and policing (I noticed in some of the 2021 European competitions precisely the same thing - allow some fans who were supposed to socially distance - they all gathered together and no one stopped them).
A post above essentially says so what? People will do what they want. It's an absurd position to take when kids have been saturated with advertising on the chests of their heroes their entire lives. Part of my life has been 'trans-Atlantic' and I remember how it struck me years ago returning to the UK and see breweries across Premier League shirts. I'd ask family why was this allowed and they would just shrug.
Now it's betting companies propagandizing with impunity.
As the F.A. controls sponsorship/advertising on team kits, it would be easy to ban betting shops and only allow advertising which was thought fitter for society- car companies, airlines etc. but they obviously have not really cared for years. And sad to say, the public does not appear invested enough to exert pressure.
However from an outside perspective, the idea betting companies are allowed to promote themselves in such a positive setting/manner is really disconcerting.