MMA Anderson Silva vs. Chris Weidman;

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It's a counterstrike technique. goading someone to take an off-balance swing at you often leaves them open. Calculated strategy that backfired/ end of story.
 
kcanuck said:
It's a counterstrike technique. goading someone to take an off-balance swing at you often leaves them open. Calculated strategy that backfired/ end of story.
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Yup. And its what he always does, I dunno how its an upset if he outsmarted and out fought him and is the champ.
 
jcla6985 said:
For you who say its rigged...get real.moving on.

Saying you feel bad for weidman? He beet the champ when he does what he always does.why was anyone surprised. He always does that and weidman was the first guy to take advantage. Good win.
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The reasons I feel bad for him are;

1) Silva fans will say "you didn't beat him, he beat himself".
2) Silva clearly did not respect him and give him his best defense.
3) Because of that suspicion on Silva's part, it unfairly drags Weidman into it.

He just deserved better, IMO. I think he deserved that victory, but no one wants to win by your opponent dropping his guard as if deliberately wanting to lose.

That is why, after this clear disrespect shown, I would tell Silva to go suck an egg when the subject of a rematch comes up. Matter of fact, I would not invite a rematch and give that reason as to why. Screw him, if he will not give it his all, he does not deserve to have another shot.

Weidman busted his butt for that shot at the title and for a chance to clearly prove who the best man was. Silva only gave him the shot at it.
 
Michael Paler said:
It's just too many coincidences. Close to end of fighting career and paycheck from it, close to endorsements winding down and therefore paychecks from it as well, new guy with a good record but not as good as past contenders (did Silva beat someone with a better than 9-0 record? I think he has) beats him in two rounds...
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Actually, you've gotta go back a pretty long way to find someone Silva has faced with a record as good as Weidman. Demian Maia was 12-1 before facing him, but he was a relatively late replacement in that fight and he never stood a chance against Silva in the stand up. Thales Leites was 14-1, Chris Leben was 15-1 and Rich Franklin was 22-1 before facing Silva, but we're going back to 2009 and earlier for those fights.

His more recent fights have been against guys like Stephan Bonnar (15-7 before the fight, and no title on the line), Chael Sonnen (25-10-1 before their first fight) and Yushin Okami (20-5 - fun fact, one of those 20 wins was against Silva when he got disqualified for an illegal upkick).

In fact you've got to go all the way back to 2001 and Hayato Sakurai to find someone that's come into a fight with Silva holding an unbeaten record (18-0-1 in Sakurai's case).

So purely in terms of their records yeah, Weidman probably is the "best" fighter Silva has faced in several years.
 
OzExorcist said:
Actually, you've gotta go back a pretty long way to find someone Silva has faced with a record as good as Weidman. Demian Maia was 12-1 before facing him, but he was a relatively late replacement in that fight and he never stood a chance against Silva in the stand up. Thales Leites was 14-1, Chris Leben was 15-1 and Rich Franklin was 22-1 before facing Silva, but we're going back to 2009 and earlier for those fights.

His more recent fights have been against guys like Stephan Bonnar (15-7 before the fight, and no title on the line), Chael Sonnen (25-10-1 before their first fight) and Yushin Okami (20-5 - fun fact, one of those 20 wins was against Silva when he got disqualified for an illegal upkick).

In fact you've got to go all the way back to 2001 and Hayato Sakurai to find someone that's come into a fight with Silva holding an unbeaten record (18-0-1 in Sakurai's case).

So purely in terms of their records yeah, Weidman probably is the "best" fighter Silva has faced in several years.
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Ok, fair enough and thanks for setting me straight on that part. I feel a little better. Not a lot, but a little. At least that part makes sense and puts one hole in my suspicions. Honestly, I didn't mind the match being over in two rounds as much as the way it ended, lol.

Still, I wish to God he would have brought his "A" game and skipped the friggin Rocky 3 crap. When you get the crowd booing you in an MMA match without making an illegal upkick, you know you just royally screwed up, lol. The only thing that would have been worse would be getting inspired by Mike Tyson being there and eating the guys ear.
 
Michael Paler said:
The reasons I feel bad for him are;

1) Silva fans will say "you didn't beat him, he beat himself".
2) Silva clearly did not respect him and give him his best defense.
3) Because of that suspicion on Silva's part, it unfairly drags Weidman into it.

He just deserved better, IMO. I think he deserved that victory, but no one wants to win by your opponent dropping his guard as if deliberately wanting to lose.

That is why, after this clear disrespect shown, I would tell Silva to go suck an egg when the subject of a rematch comes up. Matter of fact, I would not invite a rematch and give that reason as to why. Screw him, if he will not give it his all, he does not deserve to have another shot.

Weidman busted his butt for that shot at the title and for a chance to clearly prove who the best man was. Silva only gave him the shot at it.
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He didnt disrespect him anymore then anyone else. He always does that, so how did he not give it is all. And silva is my fav fighter but I know how to be unbiased. He lived so long by his dangerous sword and he finally died by the sword....
 
I bet on chris in the first one but in the rematch id be surprised if silva doesn't win and win big
 
99TERRANCE99 said:
I bet on chris in the first one but in the rematch id be surprised if silva doesn't win and win big
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IF this was to happen lets see it soon, the goat is reachin 40
 
There is nothing fishy about an unbeatable fighter being beaten, Rashad Evans. Machida, Fedor Emelianenko . its a fight anything can happen.

To Silva not showing respect / taunting / putting his hands down that's the way he fights so to say he beat him self I think would be wrong it's been working for him for 6 years.

Would love to see the rematch - If Silva wins it does not take away Chris Weidmans win (meaning if Silva wins to go told you Silva beat Silva) Rematches are around the 50%-50% mark in the UFC meaning if some one wins a fight and has a rematch they only win 50% of the time or close to that number

As far an anyone who thinks the UFC or MMA is fake, step into the octagon and see how real it is.
 
jcla6985 said:
IF this was to happen lets see it soon, the goat is reachin 40
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I believe the talk is it could happen as soon as UFC 168 on December 28th.
 
Its been booked its happening pretty soon the Rhonda rousey card was supposed tobe the main event but now its silva vs Weidman 2 as main event
 
OzExorcist said:
I believe the talk is it could happen as soon as UFC 168 on December 28th.
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I would love to see that, and id love to see silba with his hands up, but I cant believe people are still chirping about how he fought how he always does lol
 
yes its happening in the rousey card I believe thats ufc 168 its now the main event,silva will win back the title
 
OzExorcist said:
Karma took an awfully long time to catch up to him then
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There is instant karma & there is long term karma. Some people don't get what they deserve until they serve their death sentence.

He has been (just like many others have been) disrespectful to the game. His arrogance & co.ckiness has just met his match I think.

otari said:
Silva will win the rematch.
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Can't wait to see the re-match! Weidman ftw :top:
 
yep I believe ufc 168 its now the main event in the Rhonda rousey fight card
 
S3mper said:
There is nothing fishy about an unbeatable fighter being beaten, Rashad Evans. Machida, Fedor Emelianenko . its a fight anything can happen.

To Silva not showing respect / taunting / putting his hands down that's the way he fights so to say he beat him self I think would be wrong it's been working for him for 6 years.

Would love to see the rematch - If Silva wins it does not take away Chris Weidmans win (meaning if Silva wins to go told you Silva beat Silva) Rematches are around the 50%-50% mark in the UFC meaning if some one wins a fight and has a rematch they only win 50% of the time or close to that number

As far an anyone who thinks the UFC or MMA is fake, step into the octagon and see how real it is.
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I guess that is what's most stunning to me...all that time and no one was able to take advantage and nail him until now. I wonder what took so long for it to fail? It just does not appear, on the face of it, to be a very wise strategy.

Did Silva ever nail someone trying to take advantage of him when he did it?
 
Anderson Silva is a Beast . Did you guys see the Prior workout video of the match . He can possibly take down anyone . All bets on him
 
There was no lack of respect,
he always fought this way, is a tatic,
with Weidman failed,
Silva will fight in December, will get the belt back,
because Weidman does not deserve, my opinion.
 
jhonihgrass said:
There was no lack of respect,
he always fought this way, is a tatic,
with Weidman failed,
Silva will fight in December, will get the belt back,
because Weidman does not deserve, my opinion.
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I don't care if Anderson silva is taking a nap when you knock him out if you knock him out you deserve the belt

(obviously kidding about the nap but still you get what I mean
 
I come not to cause controversy and yes to explain my opinion,
and yes, i understand you S3mper!
 
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