Novak Djokovic and Cancelled Australian Visa

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tagece said:
More than 90% of the people who is hospitalized by Covid are unvaccinated. The rest probably was contaminated by then.

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These hospitalizations costs a fortune for anyone who pay taxes

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...st-the-u-s-health-system-billions-of-dollars/

No one said any moment that a vaccinated will never be contaminated. With the emerging of new variations, new vaccines will be necessary, like occurs with the flu virus . To extinguish a virus take several years. And this get worst when there are a significant percentage of morons that refuses to vaccinated because saw somewhere rumors about a conspiracy including doctors, scientists, health organizations and press all over the world. The truth is on twitter, of course.

No one must have the freedom to kill another people because of a idiotic choice. We have 5,5 million dead by covid in the world now. Most of then never had the chance to had a vaccine. Some of then take all care in a responsible way. But are infected and killed by familiars and friends who were totally irresponsible, refusing to use masks and staying isolated when it was necessary.

This never can be a choice. If you decide to not hear science and take risks, other people are not obligated to be you in the same ambient. The Australian government is absolutely right about this issue.
What does Novak Djokovic have to do with this, he had a medical exemption as well as 25 other tennis players who has not vaccinated and who will play at the Australian Open, and he is healthier than 50% of those vaccinated tennis players who will play there and he did not pose any danger!

And yes, I think this table is fake, I personally attended a group of 10 people, and three of vaccinated people got the Covid, and we unvaccinated did not get infected!
 
No1eJoker said:
What does Novak Djokovic have to do with this, he had a medical exemption as well as 25 other tennis players who has not vaccinated and who will play at the Australian Open, and he is healthier than 50% of those vaccinated tennis players who will play there and he did not pose any danger!


Lmao any individual can come out with "medical exemption" but if they cant prove whatever that actually is then it is adios - simple as that
 
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The end of this saga...

To be brutally honest, it does not matter what any of us think - The Australian government have made their decision and Novak is flying home as i type.
This issue will rumble on for a bit more and with the full ruling and reasons to be issued in a few days, the bigger question is - what will the other major events do and also what will the ATP do as in all honesty, they are powerless to the rule of law.
 
I´m totally agree with Australia Goverment.
Djokovic has to follow the rules, law, like everyone else.
If he does not want to get the vaccine, ok. But go home. He will not be welcome on many Countries today.
The World is suffering with this Covid situation. It is time to set an example, a good one.
Just because he is #1 tennis player, millionaire, famous he can not do what he wants !
Well done Australia !
And Djokovic: Take the vaccines or stay home ! It is your choice only.

M.D.
 
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Well, he is a superhuman, he cant get covid. Only pansies get Covid and abide by the rules and laws of mere mortal human beings. It is a shame that he is not treated like a God and humans do not share his entitled opinions
 
And what about people who have been vaccinated and infected, they can walk wherever they want, they don't need to be in isolation for 14 days, or ...!?
 
Nole is the best tennis player in the world, but if the rules are not followed, it is perfect for him to be disqualified, he is anti-vaccine, so he has to respect those who are vaccinated. In any case, let him set up a tournament for the unvaccinated and play it😀
 
No1eJoker said:
We all know that the Australians hate Novak, but he still won the most tournaments and it is unlikely that anyone will break that record!

As far as vaccination, people should never have been forced to get vaccinated!

These same people may also have a Covid and can transmit the virus on other people!

This is the biggest shame that happened to a one famous tennis player, and Australia did not get anything good with this decision!

From the beginning it was known how all this would end, they just harassed him further, extremely inhumanely.

They just showed how much they hate him, and how much they wanted to stop him to winning another one title!

The Minister of Sports of Australia said that he would like Nadal to win the title, DISGUSTING!!!


Face reality - Djokovic only has himself to blame.

The world had more important things to deal with that Djokovic (and his fans) prima donna self- obsession.
 
Poker_Mike said:
What actually happened?
Can somebody list the sequence of events?

Did he ever actually have a visa? Was it valid? Was Customs screwy?

I don't think anybody won this.

Thanks.

Djokovic lied or misrepresented the fact he had traveled to other countries in the period immediately before he flew to Australia.

Djokovic lied or misrepresented when he was informed that he had tested positive. The test was on December 16th and Serbian medical records showed he was messaged the same day. Djokovic claimed he did not see it for 48 hours. Regardless he met social engagements (mask less etc.) that day, the 17th and 18th I believe, then posted further shots of him on the streets in Belgrade through the end of the month. During this time under Serbian law he was supposed to be at home self-isolating.

Further, a Serbian professor analyzed Dojokovic’s medical documents and found discrepancies. The professor claimed all Serbian national records ran in order. So, if you were tested it would show one number and then when notified of the result, the notification would naturally show a higher number. He claimed Djokovic’s numbers clearly did not tally with the order of national records. Read into that what you will.

Regarding the ‘exemption’. Suspicions have been raised about the validity of the exemption. One reason was because it conveniently fit a time frame Tennis Australia appear to have been working on to provide him a pass without vaccination. I noted yesterday the ‘exemption’ seemed to evaporate into thin air this past week and a Sydney Morning Herald journalist underlined that point today. That aspect of the matter seems to have temporarily swept under the rug as a face-saving measure for Tennis Australia...but I hope it is revealed whether or not (and how) an exemption was issued.

Finally regarding the initial stand off at the airport, Djokovic either refused or could not produce the supporting documents which would allow him entry with his visa. The two went hand in hand. The press largely misrepresented the legal situation at the time. Djokovic only ‘won’ the right and time to argue he did have the right to entry, Obviously that failed a second time.

Finally holding a current visa does not guarantee entry into a country.

If for example, immigration check and find you have a criminal record at port of entry, then can refuse you admission. If you show with holiday visa, yet have no hotel booking or enough funds to cover the trip they can refuse you entry under the suspicion you are entering the country to work illegally. This happens to thousands of people at border crossings all around the world every week.

The idea Djokovic, and all those who assist with his travel, logistical and legal issues were not trying to ‘get one over’ is comical.

Djokovic had a choice, get vaccinated or stay at home. If being a anti-vaxxer is a hill you want to die on, have at it. Just don’t expect to come and go as you please in someone else’s house.

Actually, the Australian people and the government which represents them won in every sense.
 
No1eJoker said:
What does Novak Djokovic have to do with this, he had a FAKE medical exemption as well as 25 other tennis players who has not vaccinated and who will play at the Australian Open, and he is healthier than 50% of those vaccinated tennis players who will play there and he did not pose any danger!

And yes, I think this table is fake, I personally attended a group of 10 people, and three of vaccinated people got the Covid, and we unvaccinated did not get infected!
FYP.

Can you list the other 25 players you are talking about, without any names your accusation is just the, an accusation.

Hint, other unvaccinated players have already left, they didn't have the money like Novak does, they couldn't take it to court, so they left like adults, they didn't have a tantrum like Novak did.


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No1eJoker said:
And what about people who have been vaccinated and infected, they can walk wherever they want, they don't need to be in isolation for 14 days, or ...!?
In Australia we now have 7 days of isolation if infected, that's due to most people being vaccinated.

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Joker gets what he deserved thinks he’s above the rules !! Fantastic shouldn’t have went any other way
 
I am interested in one thing, can someone tell me an opinion about the fact that Nick Kirgios supported Novak and said that it is better to grant him a visa, and that it is not humane how he was imprisoned and treated !?

He turned out to be a bigger man than all his 'friends'!
 
Zorba said:
FYP.

Can you list the other 25 players you are talking about, without any names your accusation is just the, an accusation.

Hint, other unvaccinated players have already left, they didn't have the money like Novak does, they couldn't take it to court, so they left like adults, they didn't have a tantrum like Novak did.


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In Australia we now have 7 days of isolation if infected, that's due to most people being vaccinated.

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I read that there were 25 tennis players unvaccinated with exception!

The only thing I can conclude is that the Australian government has very well manipulated the population and conditioned them to be vaccinated, considering that over 90% of the population has been vaccinated!
 
No1eJoker said:
I read that there were 25 tennis players unvaccinated with exception!

The only thing I can conclude is that the Australian government has very well manipulated the population and conditioned them to be vaccinated, considering that over 90% of the population has been vaccinated!
Nope, most of the vaccinated are intelligent, that's all, it's not rocket science. :deal:

This is dated Nov 19th 2021

https://www.tennis.com/news/article...-out-2022-australian-open-tiley-djokovic-peng

TENNIS AUSTRALIA CEO CRAIG TILEY CONFIRMS UNVACCINATED TENNIS PLAYERS RULED OUT OF 2022 AUSTRALIAN OPEN

“When we’re in a state where there’s more than 90 percent of the population fully vaccinated, it’s the right thing to do,” the Tennis Australia CEO"

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The guy is a total irresponsible person who participates in competitions and doesn't want to get vaccinated where everyone else did, living in society he needs to have taken the vaccine, I think he as a great athlete should set an example because he has several children and young people who follow him and he in turn giving such an example, regrettable.
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We had a religious jerk off who preached anti-vax and held big rallies against the law. he is now in jail.
Novax and people of his ilk can endanger themselves but a menace to the rest of the citizenry.
Play by the rules or go home, easy as that.
 
okeedokalee said:
We had a religious jerk off who preached anti-vax and held big rallies against the law. he is now in jail.
Novax and people of his ilk can endanger themselves but a menace to the rest of the citizenry.
Play by the rules or go home, easy as that.
Not as much fun as this guy is.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...jmXywzJeOgdkMRF8ZdQWrywP_ysOMrExcVibf2c_ilIoU

I found this both interesting, and disgusting at the same time.

"Neither Spagnesi nor his flatmate have been charged with any crimes"

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Good to see most folks here agree that even celebrities need to follow the rules. This really has nothing to do with being vaccinated and everything to do with ego, attitude and respect.
 
JordanH said:
Good to see most folks here agree that even celebrities need to follow the rules. This really has nothing to do with being vaccinated and everything to do with ego, attitude and respect.

Yup.

And those 'whinging' on his behalf are probably now aware the French Minister of Sports has already said in all likelihood he will not be allowed to play in Paris if not vaccinated with the same looking like it will be imposed at Wimbledon.

Further they should also be aware you are not presently allowed to travel to the States (forget playing tennis) unless you are vaccinated.

So Djokovic, like many of those who have thumbed their noses at compliance will understand in 2022, after two years of idiots enabling the spread of the virus, people/institutions have had enough. Djokovic will either have to get vaccinated or will face missing multiple majors.

It was a bad joke when the Serbian President and then Prime Minister were declaring Australia 'lawless. Serbia has laws on it's books regarding isolating after testing positive. So Djokovic is supposed to be fined or even face jail time for defying such protocol, yet he's receiving a hero's welcome (haha) on his return to Belgrade whilst local politicians claim Australia is lawless.
 
Well he should get his vaccine but he does not do it. It is really good to do it. Sorry that he won't do it.

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DS3 said:
Yup.

And those 'whinging' on his behalf are probably now aware the French Minister of Sports has already said in all likelihood he will not be allowed to play in Paris if not vaccinated with the same looking like it will be imposed at Wimbledon.

Further they should also be aware you are not presently allowed to travel to the States (forget playing tennis) unless you are vaccinated.

So Djokovic, like many of those who have thumbed their noses at compliance will understand in 2022, after two years of idiots enabling the spread of the virus, people/institutions have had enough. Djokovic will either have to get vaccinated or will face missing multiple majors.

It was a bad joke when the Serbian President and then Prime Minister were declaring Australia 'lawless. Serbia has laws on it's books regarding isolating after testing positive. So Djokovic is supposed to be fined or even face jail time for defying such protocol, yet he's receiving a hero's welcome (haha) on his return to Belgrade whilst local politicians claim Australia is lawless.
That's quite amusing, considering we're very well manipulated according to some.

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