Crystal Blue said:
Oh well BS............. I mean Black Sun ( Black Sun-BS, same thing right?) As usual you are more hope and prayers than you are reality check.
It's too much work trying to quote you in recent times as you tend to slip up with every post. But anyway, you stated not so long ago in defence of Liverpool, and more to the point, Gerrard playing alongside Torres, that they only played 15 games together last season ( which is incorrect btw )
With 3 defeats from only 8 games so far this season in the prem, and the terrible two playing alongside each other, what would you now say about their apparent partnership?
If you include Europe, that's 4 defeats from 10 games. Can you quote to me how many times Gerrard and Torres played in the same game from those 10 games? I think you will find they are nearing last seasons total of 15 ( which is incorrect btw ) already.
You also stated that players like Ryan Giggs were well past their sell by date and almost worthless apart from the "odd" display. Adding to that you said that Wayne Rooney had little or no chance of hitting 20 plus goals this season. While I am well aware that the season is still young, I wanted to know what your thoughts were on things so far regarding your pre-season predictions?
I must say, if you knew half as much about Liverpool, as you apparently know about Man Utd, you would actually know a few things about your own team. Like many others, you fall into the trap of being more interested in the enemy than the team you follow. Anyway, do you have anything to say about your pre-season comments, compared to post season actualities?
So what dont I know about my team (that being the one I have followed for 29 years) How many games did Torres and Gerrard start together in the PL last year? as that was actually what i said. As for how their partnership is doing well lets see, Torres is top scorer in the PL and Liverpool are the 2nd highest scorers so far behind arsenal, who went ahead when they put 6 past Blackburn and have scored more in the 1st 8 games of a season, thats our best start since the 19th century in terms of attacking prowess. Thats not been the problem so far, its at the back we have struggled, Carra has been poor and has not been in a settled CB pairing for most of the season, Skrtel seemed to be shakey after he came back from the fractured jaw he recieved in the 1st half against Spurs. With new (Johnson) and an inexperienced (Insua) fullbacks finding their feet in the system, combined with the CB issues its hardly surprising we have looked unusually susceptible to errors. As with most things rafa will get it right, IMO in the not to distant future.
Liverpool (under Rafa) usually finish the season much stronger than they start so I am not overly concerned, as within our start we have lost to 3 of the laudid big teams in Villa, Spurs and Chelsea (2 of them tough away games) if we beat Utd at home, in a couple of weeks, suddenly the whole outlook changes again.
As for how have we done so far, well as somebody else said we do seem to lack a little consistancy right now but as always the press love to critise Liverpool no matter what they do, last season Rafa was never gonna win the league cos his tactics were too defensive, now hes finally got the team almost where he wants it, his team are too gung ho!?!? Last season it was Liverpool cant win the title cos they dont do well enough against the so called weaker teams, this year we batter Stoke and Burnley 4-0 and put 6 past Hull but we cant win the title cos we lose a tight encounter against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. The reality is we are better against the lesser opposition cos Lucas has made us more mobile getting forward where Xabi slowed us up too much againt them, but we do seem to miss Xabi's ability to keep possesion in tight spaces against the other top 5 or 6 teams, I am sure Rafa will sort this, it may just need Aquilani to get fit but we will see.
As for Giggs and Rooney I still stand by what I said. Its very early in the season to be claiming pre-season predictions are wrong, neither have done more than I predicted yet and Utd have been fortunate getting goals in the last minute as usual, Chelsea have done OK, but will still need to have a healthy lead come January IMO as I feel they will struggle with the loss of key players to African Nations, Arsenal have done the same as usual looking great going forward at times but looking woeful at the back against such powerhouses as Blackburn. City have ridden high on the back of all their star signings, again I suspect come xmas they will have dropped off the pace and Villa hit their peak at Anfield in August.
As for the 'see u dont know anything posts' how about u wait til any of these things has actually been concluded before having a 'I told U so' dance.