€11 NL HE MTT: call or re-raise

as you see i open on river 100% bet, when i hit flush. but guy after me re raise. I called because i have low flush there is also posebility someone to have full house. I call and got him he had three of kind 8 for that he reraise

A low flush is a bluff catcher on that board, when you bet and get raised. So the decision is between calling and folding, and since he only min-raised, I would also stick in the call. Mostly for the odd chance, the guy has no idea, what he is doing, which turned out to be exactly, what was going on here.

Yea, that's a flat. I'm not re-raising there. Not only is better flush there, but also boat and if you look closely, there actually is an 8-Q straight flush there. The min raise is a nice price to call and our stack is still ok so I'd flat.

fundiver199 said:

Mostly for the odd chance, the guy has no idea, what he is doing, which turned out to be exactly, what was going on here.

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No kidding. Anything worse than his trips is not calling (and based on the action before him quite unlikely that either Hero or Dangerkitty has less than trips), and anything better he is just paying. If he's trying to rep nut flush (or straight-flush) he probably needs to jam and if he thinks he's raising for value he's out to lunch.

I'm certainly not re-raising with a paired board and a 4-high flush. I wouldn't have bet there either...

Semprini said:

If he's trying to rep nut flush (or straight-flush) he probably needs to jam and if he thinks he's raising for value he's out to lunch.

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Pretty sure the Villain thought, he had the best hand and was raising for value. Which is really optimistic, since the only worse hand, that might bet pot on the river and then also call a raise, would be trips worse kicker. Which he strongly block. Far more commonly this pot sized bet will be a flush or a bluff, and then it obviously makes no sense to raise, since the bluffs will always fold and the flushes always call.

elflake said:

I'm certainly not re-raising with a paired board and a 4-high flush. I wouldn't have bet there either...

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The pot size suggest, that both the flop and turn got checked through, which makes it highly unlikely, someone has a boat here. So a small flush is a clear bet for value, but I might not have bet full pot. With that sizing Hero pretty much only target trips, and I would want to give myself a chance of getting hero called by some random two pair as well.

I would also not have checked a 4 high draw on the turn, when the flop got checked around. I would have bet out and tried to take it down without having to hit the flush. If Hero is not betting the turn with this hand as a bluff, then most likely he is never bluffing at all, which is a mistake. You need to sometimes try to take down pots, that nobody have shown any interest in.

fundiver199 said:

Pretty sure the Villain thought, he had the best hand and was raising for value.

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100% agree.

Which is a terrible play. Certainly lead stab for pot could be bluffing spades but when the player between FLATS, trips is never good here.

Semprini said:

Certainly lead stab for pot could be bluffing spades but when the player between FLATS, trips is never good here.

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I would not say "never", because sometimes Hero could be bluffing, and the guy in between could have trips worse kicker or even a poorly played top pair/overpair. The K8 guy is getting 3:1, so need to be good 25% of the time to make a breakeven call. I think its close, and would not blame him for overcalling, but its definitely not a raise for value.