$11 NL HE MTT: Flopped full house - how to get max value?

Hand is from a "Big" MTT on PokerStars. A traditional format with 10 min blinds and even 12 min on the final table. Sadly not so popular these days, so this "Big" only saw around 60 entries. Late registration is around 10 minutes from closing, and around 70% of the remaining players need to go, before we are in the money.

UTG is playing VPIP 67 / PFR 4 over 24 hands, so a typical fish, and not exactly shocking, that someone with these stats chose to limp into the pot. SB is playing VPIP 27 / PFR 18 with a 10% 3-bet over 979 hands, so kind of a bad LAG with a rather high VPIP and a slightly to wide gap between VPIP and PFR.

Obviously the focus here is getting max value, when we flop a huge hand like this, which unfortunately does not happen that often. Decision points:

Flop: Check back as a slowplay or bet for value, and if so which sizing?
Turn: Continue to slowplay by just calling the small bet from SB or raise for value?
River: Small bet or jam for value?

PokerStars, $9.80 + $1.20 - Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (25 ante) - 7 players
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UTG: 11,238 (56 bb)
MP: 4,314 (22 bb)
MP+1: 9,045 (45 bb)
CO (Hero): 13,292 (66 bb)
BU: 7,080 (35 bb)
SB: 14,384 (72 bb)
BB: 18,836 (94 bb)

Pre-Flop: (475) Hero is CO with 7♠ 7♦
UTG calls 200, 2 players fold, Hero raises to 700, 1 fold, SB calls 600, 1 fold, UTG calls 500

Flop: (2,475) 8♠ 7♥ 8♥ (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (2,475) 2♠ (3 players)
SB bets 619, UTG calls 619, Hero raises to 3,218, SB calls 2,599, UTG folds

River: (9,530) T♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero?

Flop is mostly check V cannot have hit board hard very often we need them to catch up or hero call later streets.

Turn 2s not a card that strengthens most of their range. The question is will we only get this 1 street of big value from the largest portion of their range-draws and weak value leads? Of course if they hit we get more but frequency is what we consider here. LAG leading is good for larger raise as they continue often. The issue is what range are we raising large on this board 3 way. What are we bluffing? Are we attacking a small bet? Will LAG think about that?

River sizing is dependent on LAG range and tendencies. The largest portion of V range is weak hands and the draws they call nothing. If LAG thinks we would attack the small bet turn then they think we can have bluffs. All-in sizing seems the best choice vs that scenario to get the hero call.

If the LAG thinks no one bluffs rivers then we target crying call hands by betting small.

Flop - We have to check because nobody has it and we will fold everything out.

Turn - I'm ready to put in a value bet here, nothing too huge because still nobody has anything other than flush draw. I doubt that there is even a straight draw here. Then SB donks! And UtG calls!! OMG amaze ballz! I like the raise but still want to keep them in the hand. Personally I would have gone smaller, 3x would be enough. We want both of them to improve. Maybe I am wrong but those are my thoughts.

River - Have to bet, just a question of sizing. The draws bust. I think that if he has a hand to call here he will almost as likely call a shove as a standard value, and if he has busted he will fold to anything, so might as well go for it.

Thanks for the comments. My reason for checking back the flop was pretty much, what you both stated. Its difficult for the opponents to have connected with this board, although there were some draws, which one of them actually had. But of course with a boat its fantastic, if the draws get there, so we dont mind so much giving a free card.

On the turn my thought process was, that now I had to get some chips into this pot, even though the turn card was unfortunately a total brick, which was unlikely to have helped any of them. Maybe I could have gone a bit smaller, but then its more difficult to get stacks in on the river. It kind of sucks, that the fish bet so small and then folded, but luckily the other guy still called a raise.

And then on the river I think, it has to be a jam with less than a pot sized bet left. This hand was posted so long ago, that I dont have the hand history saved any more, so unfortunately I cant post a reveal. But if I remember correctly, I jammed the river and got paid by TX of hearts, that called the turn raise with a flushdraw and then improved to top pair on the river.

fundiver199 said:

On the turn my thought process was, that now I had to get some chips into this pot, even though the turn card was unfortunately a total brick, which was unlikely to have helped any of them. Maybe I could have gone a bit smaller, but then its more difficult to get stacks in on the river. It kind of sucks, that the fish bet so small and then folded, but luckily the other guy still called a raise.

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Yes, that is the dilemma in these spots. If we bet too large we fold out, if we bet too small we lose pot geometry. Who ever said that there is no gambling with the stone cold nuts? ; )

fundiver199 said:

Thanks for the comments. My reason for checking back the flop was pretty much, what you both stated. Its difficult for the opponents to have connected with this board, although there were some draws, which one of them actually had. But of course with a boat its fantastic, if the draws get there, so we dont mind so much giving a free card.

On the turn my thought process was, that now I had to get some chips into this pot, even though the turn card was unfortunately a total brick, which was unlikely to have helped any of them. Maybe I could have gone a bit smaller, but then its more difficult to get stacks in on the river. It kind of sucks, that the fish bet so small and then folded, but luckily the other guy still called a raise.

And then on the river I think, it has to be a jam with less than a pot sized bet left. This hand was posted so long ago, that I dont have the hand history saved any more, so unfortunately I cant post a reveal. But if I remember correctly, I jammed the river and got paid by TX of hearts, that called the turn raise with a flushdraw and then improved to top pair on the river.

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The other factor that suggests big turn raise here and then jam river is the fact that we have 2 players on turn to target not just 1 and the full board has 0 paint cards.