$5.5 NL HE MTT: Preflop decision with JJ

fundiver199 · Saturday at 8:30 AM

Game is a "Deep dive" MTT on PokerStars, a traditional slow structure without bounties. Late registation is about to close, and more than half the field still need to go, before we are in the money. HUD-stats for BB are VPIP 20 / PFR 7 with a 0% 3-bet over 99 hands and around 40 opportunities to 3-bet.

PokerStars, $4.90 + $0.60 - Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (90 ante) - 8 players
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UTG: 55,578 (79 bb)
UTG+1: 10,000 (14 bb)
MP (Hero): 19,629 (28 bb)
MP+1: 7,694 (11 bb)
CO: 63,659 (91 bb)
BU: 8,590 (12 bb)
SB: 22,300 (32 bb)
BB: 46,914 (67 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,770) Hero is MP with J♣ J♦
2 players fold, Hero raises to 1,750, 1 fold, CO calls 1,750, BTN calls 1,750, SB calls 1,400, BB 3-bets to 46,824 (all-in), MP (Hero)?

Semprini · Saturday at 8:55 AM

I think it's a fold. If you call this there is no guarantee that you'll be heads-up. Between the 3 of them there are just way too many overcards that could hit the board and kill you.

If we had isolation I still don't like a call here. What his (non)-3-bet frequency tells me is that this is not a 3-bet at all in the sense that a normal 3-bet tries to do - take charge and drive the pot going to the next street. This is either AA KK or a crazy bluff. We see folks do that sort of thing, the pre-flop pot starts getting big and they try to swipe it, but guys like that usually out themselves long before they get this deep into the tournament. Nobody sane is going to jam bluff 4-way squeeze. He wants to showdown right now. At best for you this is a coin flip against AKs.

Semprini · Saturday at 3:46 PM

So what happened? Is that link supposed to be the replay? it doesn't work for me. Somebody must have called him.

puzzlefish · Saturday at 6:40 PM

This is another one of those spots where the question becomes "why now?", why would BB do this with no 3betting up to this point? Does he need to leave the game and is jamming all in to punt his stack? Does he think the entire table is weak with calling hero's raise and that this is a good chance to steal? Would he reasonably do this with a range that we could beat? I would say this is QQ+ and I don't think AK would even be in the range. I'd fold jacks here and play on.

elflake · Saturday at 7:16 PM

Finding the fold button as fast as I can...

Lodestone · 2026-07-05T00:05:53-0400

Pfr of 7 and 0 3b in 90 hands deciding to finally 3b is KK or AA 99% of the time. The remaining 1% is misclicks

fundiver199 · 2026-07-05T01:44:25-0400

Semprini said:
So what happened? Is that link supposed to be the replay? it doesn't work for me. Somebody must have called him.

The link is just a standard output from the CC hand converter. Its to the converter itself - not the hand history. Anyways I will share the results now, since everyone seem to agree, that this is a fold. And I agree as well. I mostly shared this hand to illustrate, how you can find some really easy exploits by using a HUD, since this is a discussion, that comes up from time to time.

Against an unknown player or a loose and aggressive player I would not have completely loved this spot, but I would still have called. The reason is, there is a ton of dead money out there from 3 field callers, who we can assume have capped ranges, since they would have 3-bet themselfes, if they had a premium hand. Not always of course but the vast majority of the time.

It is a little bit of a turn-off for BB, that CO is so deep, especially since he was the first player to call, because he is the one most likely to be trapping. If SB had a premium hand, there is no chance, that he would have just called and created a 5-way pot, where he is highly likely to get sucked out on. But CO can have some traps, which should put the breaks a little bit on BB, if he is good enough to understand this. But even so I would assume, that an unknown or an aggressive BB player would still be rejamming a range, that JJ does ok against especially with the overlay from all the dead money, that 3 players put into the pot.

However when BB have these kind of HUD-stats, then its highly unlikely, he is rejamming any hand, that JJ is ahead of. Barring the outlier, which someone mentioned, where he has to go or is on massive tilt, his range is at best JJ+, AK, and it could be as narrow as KK+. And then obviously JJ is not getting the right odds to call it off, even with dead money in the pot. So I folded, but BTN made the call, so we can see, what BB had.

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SPANKYSN · 2026-07-05T01:56:22-0400

fundiver199 said:
Game is a "Deep dive" MTT on PokerStars, a traditional slow structure without bounties. Late registation is about to close, and more than half the field still need to go, before we are in the money. HUD-stats for BB are VPIP 20 / PFR 7 with a 0% 3-bet over 99 hands and around 40 opportunities to 3-bet.

PokerStars, $4.90 + $0.60 - Hold'em No Limit - 350/700 (90 ante) - 8 players
Hand delivered by CardsChat - https://www.cardschat.com/hand-converter.php

UTG: 55,578 (79 bb)
UTG+1: 10,000 (14 bb)
MP (Hero): 19,629 (28 bb)
MP+1: 7,694 (11 bb)
CO: 63,659 (91 bb)
BU: 8,590 (12 bb)
SB: 22,300 (32 bb)
BB: 46,914 (67 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,770) Hero is MP with J♣ J♦
2 players fold, Hero raises to 1,750, 1 fold, CO calls 1,750, BTN calls 1,750, SB calls 1,400, BB 3-bets to 46,824 (all-in), MP (Hero)?

Fold and live to fight another day. KK, I would have trouble folding, but JJ gets beat by too many hands.

Lodestone · 2026-07-05T12:24:07-0400

fundiver199 said:
The link is just a standard output from the CC hand converter. Its to the converter itself - not the hand history. Anyways I will share the results now, since everyone seem to agree, that this is a fold. And I agree as well. I mostly shared this hand to illustrate, how you can find some really easy exploits by using a HUD, since this is a discussion, that comes up from time to time.

Against an unknown player or a loose and aggressive player I would not have completely loved this spot, but I would still have called. The reason is, there is a ton of dead money out there from 3 field callers, who we can assume have capped ranges, since they would have 3-bet themselfes, if they had a premium hand. Not always of course but the vast majority of the time.

It is a little bit of a turn-off for BB, that CO is so deep, especially since he was the first player to call, because he is the one most likely to be trapping. If SB had a premium hand, there is no chance, that he would have just called and created a 5-way pot, where he is highly likely to get sucked out on. But CO can have some traps, which should put the breaks a little bit on BB, if he is good enough to understand this. But even so I would assume, that an unknown or an aggressive BB player would still be rejamming a range, that JJ does ok against especially with the overlay from all the dead money, that 3 players put into the pot.

However when BB have these kind of HUD-stats, then its highly unlikely, he is rejamming any hand, that JJ is ahead of. Barring the outlier, which someone mentioned, where he has to go or is on massive tilt, his range is at best JJ+, AK, and it could be as narrow as KK+. And then obviously JJ is not getting the right odds to call it off, even with dead money in the pot. So I folded, but BTN made the call, so we can see, what BB had.

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Lmao @ JQ getting stacked misplaying every single decision.

Semprini · 2026-07-06T08:59:07-0400

fundiver199 said:
Against an unknown player or a loose and aggressive player I would not have completely loved this spot, but I would still have called. The reason is, there is a ton of dead money out there from 3 field callers, who we can assume have capped ranges, since they would have 3-bet themselfes, if they had a premium hand. Not always of course but the vast majority of the time.

But a lot of weak players are going to flat this with Axs or KQ KJ KT or any combo of broadways. You call that jam in a 5-way (!!) at LEAST one of them is coming along with an A or a K. So not only does the BB jammer have overcards to you, so do one or two others in the hand with outs to kill your JJ with ANY overcard (certainly any A or K you are dead meat) and 5 cards to come. Dead money schmead money. Tournament life is on the line here and the odds are NOT in your favor.

Heads-up is different, although it's still not good. BB is shoving over FOUR players. Even if you're the only caller, his range is AA KK QQ AKs and probably not more than that. Do you want to take your chances that it's TT? Unless you have notes on him as a total punter, this is not good. The action here is just gross.

Now, if no one called between your open and his jam, you've got a coin flip. If you like your chances with a coin flip, go for it (I think I might have to call myself), but again, tournament life is on the line.

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