£5 NL HE MTT: I finished ITM in a satellite but with no prize

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1000048666

This is the final table of a satellite with the top 3 carrying the stack to the next phase. According to the charts this is a clear shove, but as this is a bubble position, did I get it right under ICM pressure?

The result was that, the short stack and BB called, and the BB killed both me and the short stack. I was officially in the money but ending with 0 chips for the next stage.

P.S. I was leading the tournament for a while but made two blunders because I didn't realise that the blinds have increased (I was bullying people with a 50 BB long stack not realising I had only 20 left), and ending up in this position.
 
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As we talked about, when you posted the last hand from this game, its not a bubble but just a break before the next phase of the tournament. As you said yourself: progressing with 0 chips had no value for you. Progressing with less than 1,5BB would not have much value either, and 55 is definitely strong enough to get it in. The real question is, how did you get that short? Were there hands before this one, where you folded incorrectly? Or maybe jammed incorrectly for 8BB and lost? These are the hands, you want to look at, not the final hand.
 
fundiver199 said:
As we talked about, when you posted the last hand from this game, its not a bubble but just a break before the next phase of the tournament. As you said yourself: progressing with 0 chips had no value for you. Progressing with less than 1,5BB would not have much value either, and 55 is definitely strong enough to get it in. The real question is, how did you get that short? Were there hands before this one, where you folded incorrectly? Or maybe jammed incorrectly for 8BB and lost? These are the hands, you want to look at, not the final hand.
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How should I play this kind of qualifiers when the stack carries over?

The starting stack of the tournament is 100000 and 15% remains, so across all sats the average ending stack will be 666667. The blinds will reset to 5000/10000 (1250) in the next stage. If I play for survival, into the next stage I will have 17 BB of stack against on average 66 BB in the next stage at the start. What is the prospect of that?
 
miklcct said:
How should I play this kind of qualifiers when the stack carries over?
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Like you play any other tournament far from the money. You just try to win as many chips as possible and dont care about making it to the next phase or not. Maybe there is even something to be said for not making it to the next stage with a very short stack, since this force you to come back and play with little prospect of actually cashing, which is kind of annoying. This is only, if the next phase is at a set time though.
miklcct said:
The blinds will reset to 5000/10000 (1250) in the next stage. If I play for survival, into the next stage I will have 17 BB of stack against on average 66 BB in the next stage at the start. What is the prospect of that?
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Well at least you will have a playable stack then. But you are not sure to progress, just because you fold this hand. BTN might fold as well or win (as he did) and increase his stack. And then you are forced to go all-in with a completely random hand, since you are posting the big blind for more than half your chips. 55 is a far above average hand, so it would be insane to fold that and then have to go all-in with the next hand instead.
 
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