Downswing or variance by play with fish ?

chonkho · Thursday at 12:40 PM

Hi there, first i need to thanks you for so much tip and share from u guy before since i still newbie.
Then, i have learn more and beat the stake i plays and have a big hit. Thanks u guy so much
I play wpt. I play low stake from 3$-8$ (22 CNY-55CNY). I have profit in this stake and beat it alot

But, for 2-3 month, i can't run deep, is that downswing or variance by low stake player?

I try to not flip to much (More nit, they shove into me then i call with premium hand, and i never shove into them with deepstack without >QQ)
and play post flop more. But some how or other, i still lose and out and i can't fold.
Ex1: Tour 5.5$ PKo, i have KK button,40 bb
UTG open jam 3xbb with ATo into me and of course i call. I cap his image so gamble and fish and i lose the flip with 3 outs.
It normal but i have lose a lot with some kind of fish with 2-3 outs like this that why i more nit.
I mean can they play postflop pot 3bet why they shove into me, i can't fold.
Ex2: Tour 22CNY, we was in the money. My chip was 33bb and in top 2x/about 70 alive. Short stack 11bb open jam 1010 . I have KK in HJ and with my chip i just call and want another in. Chiplead table about 60bb re jam with 99 and i snapcall. so many time not run deep i was so exciting.
And then card board: 39T32. I lose both of them fkkkkkk.
I mean a few time i reach itm and can't run deep. Game give me hand game give me lose. Always key hands i have ahead, sometime dominate and still lose with 2-3 outs.
For a long i have no more prize.

What should i do now guy, any tip ?

Sunz of Beaches · Thursday at 2:04 PM

KK loosing to Ax pre has nothing to do with a flip and 3 outs. Ur opponent can also make trips a straight or a flush.

Visit the cardschat 30 days beginner course is my recommendation.

chonkho · Thursday at 2:15 PM

Sunz of Beaches said:
KK loosing to Ax pre has nothing to do with a flip and 3 outs. Ur opponent can also make trips a straight or a flush.

Visit the cardschat 30 days beginner course is my recommendation.

i mean is that my field so much fish then they open jam deepstack with that hand bro, i want tip and i not a NPC-ish like u say

Sunz of Beaches · Thursday at 3:27 PM

chonkho said:
i mean is that my field so much fish then they open jam deepstack with that hand bro,

U cant do too much when others jamming on you and u have a hand with a mandatory call. Just keep playing ur A-Game and hope things even out.

Based on your OP and how you wrote that i had my doubts when u stated u are a solid winner longterm in buy-ins up to 8 Dollars. Thats why my recommendation was to visit that course.

chonkho said:
i want tip and i not a NPC-ish like u say

Its a signature and it is not related to you directly.

eetenor · Friday at 1:41 PM

chonkho said:
Hi there, first i need to thanks you for so much tip and share from u guy before since i still newbie.
Then, i have learn more and beat the stake i plays and have a big hit. Thanks u guy so much
I play wpt. I play low stake from 3$-8$ (22 CNY-55CNY). I have profit in this stake and beat it alot

But, for 2-3 month, i can't run deep, is that downswing or variance by low stake player?

I try to not flip to much (More nit, they shove into me then i call with premium hand, and i never shove into them with deepstack without >QQ)
and play post flop more. But some how or other, i still lose and out and i can't fold.
Ex1: Tour 5.5$ PKo, i have KK button,40 bb
UTG open jam 3xbb with ATo into me and of course i call. I cap his image so gamble and fish and i lose the flip with 3 outs.
It normal but i have lose a lot with some kind of fish with 2-3 outs like this that why i more nit.
I mean can they play postflop pot 3bet why they shove into me, i can't fold.
Ex2: Tour 22CNY, we was in the money. My chip was 33bb and in top 2x/about 70 alive. Short stack 11bb open jam 1010 . I have KK in HJ and with my chip i just call and want another in. Chiplead table about 60bb re jam with 99 and i snapcall. so many time not run deep i was so exciting.
And then card board: 39T32. I lose both of them fkkkkkk.
I mean a few time i reach itm and can't run deep. Game give me hand game give me lose. Always key hands i have ahead, sometime dominate and still lose with 2-3 outs.
For a long i have no more prize.

What should i do now guy, any tip ?

Variance is a monster no one escapes. For some it is short lived others so bad they quit poker. All the hands you describe are variance hands- however you stated----I never shove into them with deepstack without >QQ and play post flop more. But some how or other, i still lose and out and i can't fold.

This is a flaw in your strategy- it indicates you may be flatting JJ 99 etc and allowing your V to realize equity post flop and are unable to fold spots that should be folded post flop.

Ignore the all-in suckouts and focus your study on hands that can be played better post flop. Post hands like that here to learn other strategies.

OnyxD · Friday at 1:47 PM

In Tournaments not getting into deep ITM for weeks on end is quite normal. You will find that going higher you will get there less because average skill level is higher that on low stakes.

hardongear · Friday at 2:14 PM

Even the best poker players in the world can go months without running deep or winning an MTT. This is likely just variance....MTT variance is extremely brutal. All you can do is keep studying, improving and playing.

Cheers!!!

fundiver199 · 2026-05-03T08:18:02-0400

Variance is part of poker, and not only when you play with bad players. In those two hands, you mention, its not like, your opponents did anything wrong. Maybe 99 is a bit wide with a jam and a call in from of him, but its not like crazy. And of course ATo is a snap jam from any seat, when you only have 3BB left.