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I being playing full days trying to get an strategy works on freerolls. Without good results.
Who in forum could say that already has an strategy works?
 
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All-in / if stack doesn't double, then open a new freeroll :D
 
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hjuosh said:
I being playing full days trying to get an strategy works on freerolls. Without good results.
Who in forum could say that already has an strategy works?
In the first false start tournament, survive up to 30 minutes today :))
 
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A strong start - all in as soon as possible - if 1-2 come in, you can start to get a meaningful position. If not, then at least you're not wasting a lot of time for nothing or 1-2 cents.
 
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But seriously, at the initial stage, you need to play somehow like in Harrington's first MTT book.
There are about 10 pages with a detailed description of all the hands played in a variety of spots.

In the middle stage, you need to play something like in this table:



And in the late stage, it's just push/fold if the stack is short...

P.S. But stealing blids from BU with 22+ There is a typo in the table that 99-66
 
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Tournaments should be played aggressively but this changes when it comes to freerolls because most players play "crazy" so to speak, I think patience is important in these freerolls
 
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What kind of freerolls like on 888 where there lightning fast or like cardchat were they're a little slower.


For me I play big hands all in definitely to start and late. You can't sit around and wait to take small pots. A10 suited tens or better needs to be all in everytime basically. That's they way I play them I do not bad. I'm not living on freeroll money either so I'm not afraid to get it in. Try this and watch yourself win more


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I being playing full days trying to get an strategy works on freerolls. Without good results.
Who in forum could say that already has an strategy works?
 
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lol, If I had to guess, I think your question also wants to know how to avoid some of the first few responses...i.e survive the aggressive all-in players, cos playing like them may not work for you and may also not be working for them in any case..

This really is the wild wild west, and up until registration closes, u roaming the wasteland with a single shot riffle in an unknown terrain.

What I've eventually settled on with some levels of consistency, is to take a time based approach as i found there's different behaviours in first 10min, next 40min, and last 10min before reg close....then the session to bubble, all of which in my opinion need a different strategy based on your type of play and skills. After the bubble, it comes down to patience and player skill and a lot more position at the final stretch.

If you can identify the patterns and changes, you'll do better as long as the cards also play along...

bonus tip: waiting for good cards or position in first 10minutes is like waiting for Santa in Easter
 
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If you're talking about a site freeroll with like 1000+ folks then you could work on the play chip table tourns and playchip tables at Poker Stars to improve your game playing similiar circumstances/games.

You're going to be playing mostly the same type of player in the freerolls and low buyin tourns anyway so if you can beat them but more importantly understand what they're trying to do and understand poker basics at the playchip tables then you should do ok in the freerolls.

So work on your game at the play chip tables and I think pokerprolabs still keeps track of the pstar.net stuff for tourns so use that to see how you're doing and track your results and focus on improving your game/stats.

If you're talking about a Cardschat freerolls with like 100 folks then again just work on understanding the game and improving your game instead of making money or feeding your ego and you will do a lot better.

So yeah, play chip tables, improve your game to get a "feel"/ understanding of the game you're playing then use sharkscope ( for cash tourns) or pokerprolabs (for playchip tourns) or a spreadsheet to track your records and go from there.

I forgot, the other thing is: just because you're not making the money doesnt mean you're not improving so look for other things like going deeper in tourns that you can easily see for improvement.

Don't get wrapped up in making money was really my point of the post. Work on improving your game and the success will follow.

GL!!
 
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BelFish said:
But seriously, at the initial stage, you need to play somehow like in Harrington's first MTT book.
There are about 10 pages with a detailed description of all the hands played in a variety of spots.

In the middle stage, you need to play something like in this table:



And in the late stage, it's just push/fold if the stack is short...

P.S. But stealing blids from BU with 22+ There is a typo in the table that 99-66

thanks man to share your idea. it is difficult to me think on that. I don't know if that works for me. with a so little blinds since the beginning. But the question is. Do You already have a tourney won with this strategy? Thanks for mention the book. I will find it to study.
 
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ramdon p358 said:
Tournaments should be played aggressively but this changes when it comes to freerolls because most players play "crazy" so to speak, I think patience is important in these freerolls

Yes in deed. It is not a problem the entry on a freeroll so everybody go super crazy. I try to find the way to beat that. I mean I think is a good training. So. I have the same question. Do you already won a freeroll? On of those with a 2000 people going just crazy on every bet.
 
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What kind of freerolls like on 888 where there lightning fast or like cardchat were they're a little slower.


For me I play big hands all in definitely to start and late. You can't sit around and wait to take small pots. A10 suited tens or better needs to be all in everytime basically. That's they way I play them I do not bad. I'm not living on freeroll money either so I'm not afraid to get it in. Try this and watch yourself win more




I'm trying to make a plan to demostrarte to everyone the way to finance the bankroll with the freerrolls. For example. I you win a Sunday million from pokerstars on a freeroll, the first place of 2.000 players has an entry to play against 15.000 players and win a very nice prize of 10 million, with 1.500 players paid. So. the last place has almost 500 dll. And the very first place almost 1,500.000. So. Every place is a very good beginning. That's very nice to start a healthy bankroll to go up very fast.

Did you already won a freeroll of thousand of players ?
 
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It all comes down to ...

The larger the player pool, the more luck you need to have.

Last week I had AA very early in a tournament, I went all-in (naturally), the crazy guy at the table felt obliged to follow suit (why, of course!) ... and 5 minutes later I was back at posting on Cardschat. :)

I didn't learn a lesson from that. I know already that Poker is on many occasions a pure gamble.
 
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lol, If I had to guess, I think your question also wants to know how to avoid some of the first few responses...i.e survive the aggressive all-in players, cos playing like them may not work for you and may also not be working for them in any case..

This really is the wild wild west, and up until registration closes, u roaming the wasteland with a single shot riffle in an unknown terrain.

What I've eventually settled on with some levels of consistency, is to take a time based approach as i found there's different behaviours in first 10min, next 40min, and last 10min before reg close....then the session to bubble, all of which in my opinion need a different strategy based on your type of play and skills. After the bubble, it comes down to patience and player skill and a lot more position at the final stretch.

If you can identify the patterns and changes, you'll do better as long as the cards also play along...

bonus tip: waiting for good cards or position in first 10minutes is like waiting for Santa in Easter

Jajaj. Very nice reply man. And the bonus tip. Is so explicit. 😵*💫

Can I ask if you win on this freerrolls?
 
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BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch said:
If you're talking about a site freeroll with like 1000+ folks then you could work on the play chip table tourns and playchip tables at Poker Stars to improve your game playing similiar circumstances/games.

You're going to be playing mostly the same type of player in the freerolls and low buyin tourns anyway so if you can beat them but more importantly understand what they're trying to do and understand poker basics at the playchip tables then you should do ok in the freerolls.

So work on your game at the play chip tables and I think pokerprolabs still keeps track of the pstar.net stuff for tourns so use that to see how you're doing and track your results and focus on improving your game/stats.

If you're talking about a Cardschat freerolls with like 100 folks then again just work on understanding the game and improving your game instead of making money or feeding your ego and you will do a lot better.

So yeah, play chip tables, improve your game to get a "feel"/ understanding of the game you're playing then use sharkscope ( for cash tourns) or pokerprolabs (for playchip tourns) or a spreadsheet to track your records and go from there.

I forgot, the other thing is: just because you're not making the money doesnt mean you're not improving so look for other things like going deeper in tourns that you can easily see for improvement.

Don't get wrapped up in making money was really my point of the post. Work on improving your game and the success will follow.

GL!!




I loved your answer. Really. I don't say that like a compliment. I do not make this for the money. It is a final idea for sure. But first I would like to understand for me, the way to be on every situation. Just for improve the best of my knowledge of the game.
Thanks for advice.
Did you win on these free thousands rolls? Or just use to practice...
 
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SopianaeExtra said:
The larger the player pool, the more luck you need to have.

Last week I had AA very early in a tournament, I went all-in (naturally), the crazy guy at the table felt obliged to follow suit (why, of course!) ... and 5 minutes later I was back at posting on Cardschat. :)

I didn't learn a lesson from that. I know already that Poker is on many occasions a pure gamble.

Hahah . Yeah. I feel the same many times. Just gamble. I think there is nothing to learn like a lesson. AA is not always the best Bet. But obviously you'll have to get in action.
 
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Tight as hell with a normal blind structure.

If its 888 with 1 & 2 min blinds shove and shove again, then sit out for the money and open another freeroll :)
 
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Play a large number of freerolls, build your starting bankroll and move up in the limits. 888poker -great place for it
 
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Yes, I've won freerolls.. Also won micros stakes...

Next will be small stakes and after that, the moon! :trytofly:

The point which strikes me is you seem to be searching for a one-size-fits-all approach for freerolls...

Generally speaking, you're not really going to find that beyond any general winning strategy for poker.

What I mean by this is that many (if not all) freerolls will play slightly differently.

Sure, many might be comparable, but you will usually have different opponents, with different nuances, the structures will vary significantly and all of these all factors combined will add up to a very different experience.

The point I'm trying to make is saying I'm trying to find a winning strategy for freerolls is just like saying I'm trying to find a winning strategy for football, hockey or basketball.

Some strategies will be more effective against some opponents, but less so versus others.

The are general winning strategies that will help us in any poker game (not purely freerolls), and these are what you want to be discovering & focusing on learning and understanding. :wink:

With that being said, I recommend a measured, slow & steady approach.

Unless the structure is very turbo/hyper or you only start with 15bb, this 'double up immediately or bust out and head to new freeroll' approach is not sagely advice...

Get yourself into as many CardsChat freerolls as you can, your game will soon start developing. :icon_thum
 
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Be very very patient and play good poker.
 
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The middle stage of the tournament is game with about 20-40BB. The initial stage is 150-40bb. Push/fold can be with 20bb, but it's better to start somewhere with 13bb. Read "Harrington on Hold'em" Volume 1. From 10 pages of descriptions, make early preflop charts. For the middle stage i gave an approximate chart. A push/fold strategy in tournaments (charts) can be found on the Internet.

All that remains is to find articles on post-flop play for the early and middle stages of tournaments. About continuation bets and another...

P.S. Yes, i won freerolls. In total, i won about $5,000 in freerolls all the time. But this is not such a large amount, because i have been playing poker for about 15 years ))
Main wins at me from buy-in games...
 
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Tight as hell with a normal blind structure.

If its 888 with 1 & 2 min blinds shove and shove again, then sit out for the money and open another freeroll :)


Thanks man. I will check your channel. :angel:
 
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Yes, I've won freerolls.. Also won micros stakes...

Next will be small stakes and after that, the moon! :trytofly:

The point which strikes me is you seem to be searching for a one-size-fits-all approach for freerolls...

Generally speaking, you're not really going to find that beyond any general winning strategy for poker.

What I mean by this is that many (if not all) freerolls will play slightly differently.

Sure, many might be comparable, but you will usually have different opponents, with different nuances, the structures will vary significantly and all of these all factors combined will add up to a very different experience.

The point I'm trying to make is saying I'm trying to find a winning strategy for freerolls is just like saying I'm trying to find a winning strategy for football, hockey or basketball.

Some strategies will be more effective against some opponents, but less so versus others.

The are general winning strategies that will help us in any poker game (not purely freerolls), and these are what you want to be discovering & focusing on learning and understanding. :wink:

With that being said, I recommend a measured, slow & steady approach.

Unless the structure is very turbo/hyper or you only start with 15bb, this 'double up immediately or bust out and head to new freeroll' approach is not sagely advice...

Get yourself into as many CardsChat freerolls as you can, your game will soon start developing. :icon_thum


I perfectly understand your point. Thanks in advance. For sure. You can not be able to use an infallible method. Every situation always will be different in many aspects as you mention. I'm trying to find the ways to act and making a plan to raise a bankroll since 0...
 
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The middle stage of the tournament is game with about 20-40BB. The initial stage is 150-40bb. Push/fold can be with 20bb, but it's better to start somewhere with 13bb. Read "Harrington on Hold'em" Volume 1. From 10 pages of descriptions, make early preflop charts. For the middle stage i gave an approximate chart. A push/fold strategy in tournaments (charts) can be found on the Internet.

All that remains is to find articles on post-flop play for the early and middle stages of tournaments. About continuation bets and another...

P.S. Yes, i won freerolls. In total, i won about $5,000 in freerolls all the time. But this is not such a large amount, because i have been playing poker for about 15 years ))
Main wins at me from buy-in games...

Ok. Yeah. the idea is to finance the entries for a bigger tourneys. I will find that book. thanks for share.
 
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Freerolls can have several completely different strategies as long as getting the result is more important than perfomance lol ...
 
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