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Streak theory is a concept for mtts I am developing .

The idea of putting in High volume is to reduce those bad streaks over time.
We see the wild streaks sometimes,
as an impossibility.

So for a 1st place finish in an mtt of 100 players with starting stacks of 1k chips.
To go from 1k to 100k we can theorize the journey.

Lets do a virtual mtt streak theory
And let's track the amount of steps


#1.
1k jams and steals +19% of to the stack=
#2
1191 defends big blind and takes 70=
#3
1261 doubles up ak vs 22 +10%overlay=
2750. 50% to win
#4
Defends big blind
2750 +250
#5
3k loses all in of 1.5k ak vs qq = 50%
#6
1.5k steals bb 150
#7
1650 doubles up kk vs 44 3300 +250 overlay 80% to wi
#8
3550 defends big blind and loses 550
#9
3000 flips ak vs 77. 50%to win
#10
6250 steals bb 300 65% to win
#11
6550 doubles up ak vs 99. 50 % to win
13k
#12
13k doubles up 88 vs ak. 50% to wi
#13
26k jams and splits ak vs ak 4 % to lose
#14
26k aa vs kk 80 % to wi
#15
53k
LOSES 10K AA VS 22
43k
#16
3 way all in 43k kk vs 76 vs qq
100k 1st place



Lets exam this concept and not scrutinize the steps details yet...


7 steps have a 50/50 flip
1/2 ×1/2=1/4
×1/2= 1/8
×1/2=1/16
+1/2=1/32. 4 steps so far

1/2×1/32=1/64
1/2+1/64=1/128
1/2×1/128= 1/256

So the odds of winning 7 flips in a row with 50% odds is 0.39%

To be continued
 
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We lost on step 5 cutting us from 3k to 1.5k
That has made our required gas to first an extra step
An extra 1/2

As you can see 1/128 is better than 1/256
But we can't always win streaks
As you can see we stole the bb and defended it
But we can't always defend it you say...
I know....

So let's do another example but without defending bb or stealing from The button
 
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Step 1 lose 30 to button steal
970
#2 all in ak vs 22 with blinds overlay 50%
2k
#3 folds button lose 50
1950
#4 ak vs qq 50% to win
4100
#5 lose bb 100
4k
#6 lose bb
3.9k
Lose bb 3.8k
#7 akvs 77. 50%win
7.8k
#8 ak vs 88 50%
16k
#9 7 orbits card dead
Loses 17 bbs 4k folding
12k
#10 ak vs 66
24k
Folds 4 orbits 10 bbs for 4k
20k
#11 ak vs 22
40k
#12Ak vs 22
80k
Ak vs 22


Now let's figure how many flips that was
 
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That was 8 flips and no losses of a flip
** folded the blinds
****And didn't steal
1/512
Mind you it's a 100 player mtt and this is a paper based theory example
 
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How many orbits do people need to get a premium hand
Or what are the odds of premium range. About 15%
What's the odds for a all in range of aa kk qq jj 1010 99 and ak
3.9%

3.9%

With AQ 5.13%

So 1/20 hands is playable at that range 5%
1/25 for ak+
Now let's account for variance and put it at
10 out of 250 hands

Out of 25 orbits ten hands will be great 240 hands will fold
25 orbits costs 25 big blinds 12.5 big blinds from the sb and 250 antes
That's an entire 40BB
 
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so let's do a maniac example that gets his opponents blinds everytime
Also defends from the Bb and SB
gets flips in badly avg.
40% win rate
Gets to steal bb and sb twice then runs 40% to win all in
 
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1k steals bb and sb
1100
1.1k steals bb sb
1.2k
1.2k 40% to win
2.5k
Steals 2 orbits
2.8k
40% to win
5.8k
2 orbits stolen
6.3k
40% all in to win
12.8k
Double orbit steal 400/200
14k
40% to win all In
28.8k
Orbit steal x2
30k 40% to win

61k runs 40% to 1stplace
 
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5 consecutive 40% wins are equal to 1% chance

But to win 4 40% flips is 7% odds and 40 k would get you 2nd of 100
100$ pool =17$
minus buyin 1$
=16$
7% of the time 16 profit
1% of the time 25$

8% of games net 41$
-100$ In buyins
If 20 percent min cash for 1.5
+35$
35 plus 41 minus 100 equals====
 
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33 dollars lost and that's with
The maniac wining every bb and sb
 
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Now let's go back to the 50% reg and see his cost
1/256 takes first for 25$ once for 256$ of buyins and throw in a second for 16 and a few min cashes and it's easily 180 in the red
 
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Super interesting... a nice moment to do it would be near the bubble of the mtts...
 
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Now let's
martinoni said:
Super interesting... a nice moment to do it would be near the bubble of the mtts...
It would make it worse adding in icm I'm sure
Will go into that for you l8r
 
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Now let's do a lucky nit that loses bb and sb
But gets it in 70% all in every 2 orbits he pays
Vs
three good bluffers with bluff success rates at 80%/70%/60%for 20% stack increases every 3 orbits
Steals bb from button,
Defends bb for neutral
ev 0%
defend and steals are a equilibrium
flips at
30%/40%/ 50%
 
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AKQ said:
Streak theory is a concept for mtts I am developing .

The idea of putting in High volume is to reduce those bad streaks over time.
We see the wild streaks sometimes,
as an impossibility.

So for a 1st place finish in an mtt of 100 players with starting stacks of 1k chips.
To go from 1k to 100k we can theorize the journey.

Lets do a virtual mtt streak theory
And let's track the amount of steps


#1.
1k jams and steals +19% of to the stack=
#2
1191 defends big blind and takes 70=
#3
1261 doubles up ak vs 22 +10%overlay=
2750. 50% to win
#4
Defends big blind
2750 +250
#5
3k loses all in of 1.5k ak vs qq = 50%
#6
1.5k steals bb 150
#7
1650 doubles up kk vs 44 3300 +250 overlay 80% to wi
#8
3550 defends big blind and loses 550
#9
3000 flips ak vs 77. 50%to win
#10
6250 steals bb 300 65% to win
#11
6550 doubles up ak vs 99. 50 % to win
13k
#12
13k doubles up 88 vs ak. 50% to wi
#13
26k jams and splits ak vs ak 4 % to lose
#14
26k aa vs kk 80 % to wi
#15
53k
LOSES 10K AA VS 22
43k
#16
3 way all in 43k kk vs 76 vs qq
100k 1st place



Lets exam this concept and not scrutinize the steps details yet...


7 steps have a 50/50 flip
1/2 ×1/2=1/4
×1/2= 1/8
×1/2=1/16
+1/2=1/32. 4 steps so far

1/2×1/32=1/64
1/2+1/64=1/128
1/2×1/128= 1/256

So the odds of winning 7 flips in a row with 50% odds is 0.39%

To be continued
Sorry AKQ, but you have simply "lost me" with this Streak theory ... what is basis for betting?
 
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#11k minus 2 orbits
950
#2
950 all in 70% fav+overlay
2000
#3 1800 70% win
3.8k
#4 -400 2 orbits price
3.4k
#5 70% all in
7k
#6 -600 for 2 orbit blinds
6.4k
#7 70% all In
13.2k
#8Minus 1200 blinds
12k
#9 70% all in
25k
#10 2400 in blind
22.6
#11
70% 46k~
46k 70%
First place
 
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Seven 70% chances would net you 8.24% for first
 
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11.92% for 6 70%.flips in a row
 
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Super lucky nit
100 games buyi.
2nd 12% x 17$ =205$
1st 8% x 25$= 200$
Net 300+
 
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To get a random premium it's a 5 % chance for aq+
So to get them back to back is
1/20x1/20
1/40×1/20
1/80×1/20
1/160 for three in a row

0.6%

To be continued
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Sorry AKQ, but you have simply "lost me" with this Streak theory ... what is basis for betting?
The basis is people are playing tournaments and not understanding tournaments.
They know ev they position they ranges
They can steal defend and bluff
But they don't UNDERSTAND tournaments

there is no guide to understanding winning tournaments only what you should do at various levels and Icm models that say fold for last place. Then flip 1 bb

We then copy paste a sng strategy over it and say that's good

I'm gonna help people understand tournaments
flow for various player types
And insights into strategies people are using currently and been wondering why they have never gotten first
 
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If the odds were 1 /512 for your 100 man mtt strategy you would never know it
Until STREAK THEORY copyright 2025 akq

Tournaments are not about average EV hand

they're about surviving sequences of all-ins.

High volume play smooths out bad streaks, reducing variancE

In a single MTT, you're forced to win multiple marginal or even coinflip spots,
which results in very low compounded probability for a full win — hence, winning even one MTT can be a Longshot if Streak Theory disagrees with your flow
 
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Odds of running from 1k to 100k using Streak Theory with 80% bluff success (20%+ chip increase)+ 30% flip win rate through 4 growth loops = ~0.02
2% First place 50$

a bluffer that gets away with it can jam 36 against a Nits AA and get called in a mtt profitably

Yeah I said it
 
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each loop has a 12.3% success rate, giving 4.14× growth cycles to final
steal for 20% + and flip a 30% all in
That's 1 grow cycle
This strategy requires 4.14 cycles to reach 100k at 12.3% success per cycle
 
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bullishwwd said:
Sorry AKQ, but you have simply "lost me" with this Streak theory ... what is basis for betting?
Betting is to win a pot not a mtt
We will cover your type of player that gets value every orbit as well as flips(how much ev do you have per orbit?)
This is gonna be extensive.
 
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