Tournaments under $5 vs tournaments above $5: where do players perform better?

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I've noticed that micro-stakes tournaments ($0.25 to $5) seem to be filled with recreational players, with lots of questionable calls and hard-to-read decisions.

On the other hand, once you move above the $5 buy-in level, the overall skill level appears to increase. There seems to be more aggression, more 3-betting, better blind stealing, and fewer obvious mistakes.

In your experience:

- At what buy-in level did you first notice a significant increase in skill?
- Are micro-stakes players actually harder to beat because of their unpredictability?
- Where do you find the best balance between player skill and profitability?
 
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I feel somewhat aligned to your 5 buck line.. however i also find that entering late into low buy in tourneys filter out the bingo players. So 10 mins before late registration closes, the usually a break is close by. maybe play 1-2 hands or just hang back for a bit. it improves a lot.

To be fair, I once played a $100 buy in game, and I got took out by a J4 off vs me with say AK and he shoved after say a board like A94 rainbow so I called. and he improved to 2 pairs with the 5th card (J). I felt pretty pissed off. So you will find those guys everywhere I guess..

so i think you find the best skill in yourself. not in others.
 
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Come to think of it now, slightly.. in my opinion, I would also expect those tourneys that is harder to get into would likely have more skilled players. almost like the same reason why Im looking to get to Silver level status. less competition, tigher game play. better chance.. lets see 🤞🏻
 
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Yes obviously the average skill level of players increase with the buyin. But its always a mix of players, and some games are softer than others. Like popular formats or games running friday or saturday night.
 
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I very rarely play MTT's under $5 and even at $5 there's plenty of clowns who are worse then freeroll players. I have played as high as the Sunday Million on Pokerstars when it was $215 to buy-in. In my 21+ years experience as you move up in buy-ins there's still terrible clowns who have no clown and play like it's bingo there's just less of them as the stakes get higher.

1) $11 and above the significant increase in skill starts in my opinion.
2) If you can adapt to beat terrible players you'll never be good enough and be able to adapt to beat the better players.
3) Anything over $5 honestly. The only reason I don't play lower is because if I'm going to sit and play an MTT for 7-8+ hours as I prefer longer(10+ min blind level MTT's) the juice at the end has to worth the squeeze. Most micro MTT's don't even pay enough if you win for sitting there for 7-8+ hours. It if it ain't over at least $200-$300 too win it worth it for me to sit there 7-8+ hours.

Cheers!!!
 
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Hey everyone, thanks for all the great insights!It's really interesting to see different perspectives here. I totally get what you mean about the 'bingo players' late-registering, it can get so tilting when someone shoves with something crazy like J4 off and hits. I guess you really do find bad players at any stakes, even in the Sunday Million like you mentioned.I think the point about adaptation is huge. It's true that if we can't figure out how to beat the unpredictable recreational players in the micro-stakes, we'll never survive against the regulars who actually know what they're doing as we move up.For me, I'm definitely noticing that anything over $5 or $11 forces me to think a lot more about 3-betting ranges and position, rather than just waiting for a big hand to get paid off by a random call. And I completely agree about the time investment—sitting for 8 hours to win pocket change in a $1 tourney can feel pretty brutal compared to the bigger prize pools.Good luck at the tables everyone,
 
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flamenkit154 said:
I've noticed that micro-stakes tournaments ($0.25 to $5) seem to be filled with recreational players, with lots of questionable calls and hard-to-read decisions.

On the other hand, once you move above the $5 buy-in level, the overall skill level appears to increase. There seems to be more aggression, more 3-betting, better blind stealing, and fewer obvious mistakes.

In your experience:

- At what buy-in level did you first notice a significant increase in skill?
- Are micro-stakes players actually harder to beat because of their unpredictability?
- Where do you find the best balance between player skill and profitability?
It's a complicated question. The fact is that tournaments over $10 have satellites for $1. Just like tournaments for $100 have satellites for $5. There are a lot of these satellites and many participants get their place precisely thanks to such satellites. Therefore, donkeys can be everywhere, almost everywhere. I have seen them in huge numbers in tournaments with a buy-in of $55 or $109.
 
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As I play only tournaments under 5$ I can confirm a lot of recreational field . I usually try not to bluff them very often cause they will pay to see.
 
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