hey, i'm 9k. #3

[WVHillbilly]

There was no argument. And yes the sample is lol small like I said in the post. It was more a curiosity thing based on one of the OP's remarks than to try and start a debate. I don't get much volume in at the micro limits and if calling me a dummy was an effort to bait me into wasting my time playing several weeks of 50NL simply to demonstrate that a halfway decent red (AND blue) line is in fact possible, then I have to apologize sir but your scheme has failed .

Not that I should even need to, as I believe it's something most players realize already (~someone~ has to win those pots that don't go to showdown). Anyway, I'm not going to derail OP's topic any further since apparently I'm not allowed to post more than 10 times in a 24 hour period. Guess my motto for the time being will be quality over quantity. Heh. That could be a problem.

The 10 per day limit will go away for you soon. I think it's when you reach 65 or 70 posts total.

 

[youregoodmate]

Welcome to CC 9K, hope to see more of you (unless you're a freetroll)!

Yeah welcome aboard 9K

 

[Lucothefish]

Yeah welcome aboard 9K

As a follow up I saw 9k correctly distinguish between your/you're and lose/loose so we may have found a keeper

 

[Jagsti]

Welcome to CC 9k ... oh and in btw!

 

[Cafeman]

As a follow up I saw 9k correctly distinguish between your/you're and lose/loose so we may have found a keeper

If he says less instead of fewer he's getting a kick in the nuts from me though

 

[Matt Vaughan]

If he says less instead of fewer he's getting a kick in the nuts from me though

+1

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

I love how everyone's in just to troll me this thread looks promising though!

anyway update: just woke up and about to grind, anyone who wants to sweat get at me? still can't record because of the headset problem, any suggestions for replacements would be welcome.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

May be up for a short sweat after I finish BSing this paper. Will be on skype.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

first hand in, lets start off with a little spew!

guys a 21/17 with a 3b of 21, 3bet folded to 4bet the hand directly before this one.. so can he min 5 here light enough?

obv I picked a terrible hand to shove with, etc etc.. I know I'm bad.

actual HA's later today.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $53.50
SB: $54.36
BB: $50.00
CO: $147.83

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 3:club: 2:club:

fold, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $3.50, fold, Hero raises to $8.00, SB raises to $14.50, Hero raises to $53.50 and is all-in, SB calls $39.00

Flop: ($107.50, 2 players) K:heart: 3:heart: Q:spade:

Turn: ($107.50, 2 players) T:club:

River: ($107.50, 2 players) 7:spade:

SB shows J:spade: J:club: (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 82%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
Hero mucks 3:club: 2:club: (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 18%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
SB wins $106.00

 

[WVHillbilly]

People rarely go crazy on the very next hand after they are caught. 32s is obviously a HORRIBLE hand to do this with.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

first hand in, lets start off with a little spew!

guys a 21/17 with a 3b of 21, 3bet folded to 4bet the hand directly before this one.. so can he min 5 here light enough?

obv I picked a terrible hand to shove with, etc etc.. I know I'm bad.

actual HA's later today.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $53.50
SB: $54.36
BB: $50.00
CO: $147.83

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 3<font color='black'>♣</font> 2<font color='black'>♣</font>

fold, Hero raises to $1.00, SB raises to $3.50, fold, Hero raises to $8.00, SB raises to $14.50, Hero raises to $53.50 and is all-in, SB calls $39.00

Flop: ($107.50, 2 players) K<font color='red'>♥</font> 3<font color='red'>♥</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>

Turn: ($107.50, 2 players) T<font color='black'>♣</font>

River: ($107.50, 2 players) 7<font color='black'>♠</font>

SB shows J<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='black'>♣</font> (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 82%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
Hero mucks 3<font color='black'>♣</font> 2<font color='black'>♣</font> (One Pair, Threes) (Pre 18%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
SB wins $106.00

Dude... C'mon. Why the hell are you even 4betting this junk??

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

guys got a 3bet of 21, probably shouldn't even open the BTN if i'm not gonna 4bet?

obv if I'm gonna be light here there's better hands to do it with though..

 

[Matt Vaughan]

guys got a 3bet of 21, probably shouldn't even open the BTN if i'm not gonna 4bet?

obv if I'm gonna be light here there's better hands to do it with though..

Yup

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

just sweated a bit with scourge, got some river spots.. both were vs villains read/statless-ish.

(no i'm not giving my hands name either btw)

#1

PokerStars - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €20.00
UTG: €20.00
MP: €24.79
CO: €86.85
BTN: €50.00
Hero (SB): €50.00

Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50, UTG posts DB €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.25) Hero has T:heart: J:heart:

UTG checks, fold, fold, BTN raises to €1.75, Hero raises to €5.50, fold, fold, BTN calls €3.75

Flop: (€12.00, 2 players) A:diamond: A:heart: 4:spade:
Hero bets €6.00, BTN calls €6.00

Turn: (€24.00, 2 players) Q:heart:
Hero bets €11.00, BTN calls €11.00

River: (€46.00, 2 players) K:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets €27.50 and is all-in

Hero?

#2

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $50.00
CO: $73.79
BTN: $50.75
SB: $155.60

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J:diamond: T:diamond:

CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $4.50, fold

Flop: ($13.75, 2 players) 4:heart: J:heart: 2:spade:
Hero bets $6.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($25.75, 2 players) A:spade:
Hero checks, CO bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

River: ($49.75, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero checks, CO bets $49.79 and is all-in

Hero?

 

[redwards92]

just sweated a bit with scourge, got some river spots.. both were vs villains read/statless-ish.

(no i'm not giving my hands name either btw)

#1

PokerStars - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: €20.00
UTG: €20.00
MP: €24.79
CO: €86.85
BTN: €50.00
Hero (SB): €50.00

Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50, UTG posts DB €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €1.25) Hero has T♥ J♥

UTG checks, fold, fold, BTN raises to €1.75, Hero raises to €5.50, fold, fold, BTN calls €3.75

Flop: (€12.00, 2 players) A♦ A♥ 4♠
Hero bets €6.00, BTN calls €6.00

Turn: (€24.00, 2 players) Q♥
Hero bets €11.00, BTN calls €11.00

River: (€46.00, 2 players) K♠
Hero checks, BTN bets €27.50 and is all-in

Hero?

#2

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $50.00
CO: $73.79
BTN: $50.75
SB: $155.60

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has J♦ T♦

CO raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, fold, Hero raises to $6.00, CO calls $4.50, fold

Flop: ($13.75, 2 players) 4♥ J♥ 2♠
Hero bets $6.00, CO calls $6.00

Turn: ($25.75, 2 players) A♠
Hero checks, CO bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

River: ($49.75, 2 players) 2♦
Hero checks, CO bets $49.79 and is all-in

Hero?

#1 snap call but that's just me and i'm a losing player so. . . .:hmmmm: lol

#2 fold unless you really believe it is a missed draw/not an ace. ??

I'm sure some other expert will give you a much more detailed explanation and better answers but I figured a fish's input might prove to be no use at all.
waitwut?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Call #1 without a doubt (he can shove any Ace thinking he splits with all your Ax hands).

Hand 2 is a fold without a read.

 

[S93]

Begrudgingly call no1.
As its just over half pot shove and there are probably still a bunch of A2-AJ combos.

2 I fold. All(-most all) the flush draws that make sense would have had the Ah and we dont even beat most Jx he can have. Sure might be some spewy 55-TT that decided to turn them selfs into a bluff but a lot more Ax/Jx and better.

 

[dj11]

Imagine the notes they are making on you!

 

[S93]

Imagine the notes they are making on you!

Think they read JTs=NUTZ!!!!

 

[Matt Vaughan]

We like our JTs, yes we do

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Think they read JTs=NUTZ!!!!

Lmao hadn't even read this when I posted!!

 

[AlwaysPlanAhe]

guys got a 3bet of 21, probably shouldn't even open the BTN if i'm not gonna 4bet?

obv if I'm gonna be light here there's better hands to do it with though..

Combat this by 4bet/stacking with a wider value range.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-games-11/preflop-stacking-ranges-219022/

I'd suggest 88+, AJs+, AQo+. Then call the 3bet with a range that plays well against the rest of the 21%. Any broadway imo, don't setmine and I would probably avoid 6betting 3 high!!

 

[Ducky7]

Lol 9k l2Preflop ^^^

And im folding both hands, however hand 1 is kinda close, thinking about it agree with WV that he shoves Ax hands. So actually its probably a meh call, but im expecting to see AQ a whole lot, also i think some regs are bad enough to x/b some Ax hands here lol

 

[WVHillbilly]

Lol 9k l2Preflop ^^^

And im folding both hands, however hand 1 is kinda close, thinking about it agree with WV that he shoves Ax hands. So actually its probably a meh call, but im expecting to see AQ a whole lot, also i think some regs are bad enough to x/b some Ax hands here lol

But we have to assume that he's not a reg since we have no stats on him right? And a fish can show up with some random hand here because he was waiting for us to show weakness and take it away. Plus we only need to be good about 35% or so and we surely get that imo.

 

[duggs]

somehow missed this, in