MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Logan2]

I think Neil means Dooma statement to not bluff Unknowns on the micros.

Like everything is villain dependant (i know play bad the K9s hand been villain unknown, but i do have a plan for the hand if villain do this or that) but i think games are changing a lot this days and need to try different things and move on, but most important focus on players and not try a general formula with all.

Like a lot of other players i have been traped on nanos for too long, and one of the reasons is because never really try different things on my game, i just try a simple aproach of play good hands, fold bads, fold to raises/3b´s with bad holdings, play abc, never bluff, profit. (cashing-out frecuently is another reason but that is another topic).

Well that work for 2nl but not for 5nl/10nl (at least for me) so most important is that i am tryng to improve/try different things before move up because working on this going to save me a ton of $ now vs trying to work it until be on 10/25nl where going to cost me 5-10x more $ because there surely going to need a 3b flating range or a 4b bluff range.

And also been thinking a lot on how to aproach unknown because on zoom i got a ton more unknowns than people i got hands on, guessing you experience the same on Bovada with all anonimous tables. I mean in general we can´t assume things on unknowns and generally need to be more cautious, but if i consider is 6max, 2nl, and zoom, then also can assume most people going to be lol-bad no?, so if people is 3b light why not try a 4b bluff here and there?


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[Cafeman]

TBH, I really wasn't targeting anyone in particular, cos we see it said all over the forum.

 

[Logan2]

Going on with the hand, you guys really think is a bad idea 4b bluff with K9s vs unknown?

I mean i got a blocker for AK/KK, if he got AA so be it but vs a range of AA/QQ/JJ/TT/99/AQ/AJ we are only 65/35, considering is blind vs blind and also that if he is unknown for me means i am also unknown for him, so my 4b should look so strong that FE should go up and probably he need to fold like 35% to be profitable? (the 35% just take it out from my butt not run actual numbers : - ) )

However, i do think need to make 4b smaller and cb also smaller to fold% need to be even less, but he could be 3b even lighter than that.
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[Logan2]

WTF?? Now even nits 5b me wide? is a shorty though but still, im´a nit too so not sure wth!! is going on lately, some duuuurrrr fever?.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $20.81 -
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $2.50 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: NaN, Hands: 50
UTG: $6.25
MP: $7.55
CO: $1.68

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A

A

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.15, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.35

Flop: ($5.00) 9

T

6

(2 players)

Turn: ($5.00) A

(2 players)

River: ($5.00) T

(2 players)

Final Pot: $5.00
Hero shows A

A

BB shows 9

9

Hero wins $2.40
Hero wins $2.39
(Rake: $0.21)



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[loafes]

WTF?? Now even nits 5b me wide? is a shorty though but still, im´a nit too so not sure wth!! is going on lately, some duuuurrrr fever?.​

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -​

BTN: $20.81 -
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $2.50 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: NaN, Hands: 50
UTG: $6.25
MP: $7.55
CO: $1.68​

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A

A

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.15, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.35​

Flop: ($5.00) 9

T

6

(2 players)​

Turn: ($5.00) A

(2 players)​

River: ($5.00) T

(2 players)​

Final Pot: $5.00
Hero shows A

A

BB shows 9

9

Hero wins $2.40
Hero wins $2.39
(Rake: $0.21)​

Could be tilting, could also feel pot committed after 3 betting when short plus he could be hoping you have AK or similar. In fact in bvb I'd probably be getting in 99 as well considering BB only had 50 bbs

 

[Blobweird123]

WTF?? Now even nits 5b me wide? is a shorty though but still, im´a nit too so not sure wth!! is going on lately, some duuuurrrr fever?.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $20.81 -
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $2.50 - VPIP: 14, PFR: 12, 3B: 6, AF: NaN, Hands: 50
UTG: $6.25
MP: $7.55
CO: $1.68

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A

A

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB raises to $0.48, Hero raises to $1.15, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.35

Flop: ($5.00) 9

T

6

(2 players)

Turn: ($5.00) A

(2 players)

River: ($5.00) T

(2 players)

Final Pot: $5.00
Hero shows A

A

BB shows 9

9

Hero wins $2.40
Hero wins $2.39
(Rake: $0.21)



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I can only hope we aren't upset about this? As long as we are never 4b bluffing, this is a greatttt thing.

 

[Logan2]

Well not upset no, almost in shock when he hit flop ha, but still we run it twice so was cool.

Yeah, not 4b bluffing there ever, when we 4b bluff most of our equity will come from FE which we don´t have much vs shorties.

Not sure he feel pot comited when 3b only 1/5 of his stack, 1/4 or 1/3 sure. And even if he thinks i have AK going to be flipping a lot = high variance play, also he should be 3bting a lot less there for sure.

How funny is that just focus on blind play and noticing more and more things now ...


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[Logan2]

Last two hands for today.

Bet size on turn is bad on hand one, rigth? i think betting that small put face up my hand, it also give a ton of odds with so many draws, should make it like 50?

Villain is 10/7 on 30 hands
Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

BTN: $15.00
Hero (SB): $5.19
BB: $4.71
UTG: $8.21
MP: $8.16
CO: $1.22

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with A

T

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 5

8

T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, BB calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.74) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.31, BB calls $0.31

River: ($1.36) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.84, BB folds

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hand2
What we do on turn? i think villain is on draw and beting that amount on flop and turn is to give him the odds to go on to next street, so when we hit can we raise or not? and if raise to how much?, i mean if just call and hit his draw on river i going to get beat, if don´t hit his draw not going to get another street of value, so can we raise turn to get little more and make him pay? if yes to how much? (spoiler have another decision)

Poker Stars $2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players -

BTN: $8.19
SB: $1.41 - VPIP: 100, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 1
BB: $4.89
UTG: $4.35
Hero (MP): $2.00
CO: $2.02 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 6, 3B: 0, AF: 1.0, Hands: 17

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with K

Q

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.14) 8

6

8

(2 players)
SB bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.26) Q

(2 players)
SB bets $0.12, Hero ??

Spoiler

Hero raise to 0.24, sb calls
River: ($0.74) 9

(2 players)
SB bets $1.05, Hero ??

i think should raise turn like .36-.40??

 

[Blobweird123]

Well not upset no, almost in shock when he hit flop ha, but still we run it twice so was cool.

Yeah, not 4b bluffing there ever, when we 4b bluff most of our equity will come from FE which we don´t have much vs shorties.

Not sure he feel pot comited when 3b only 1/5 of his stack, 1/4 or 1/3 sure. And even if he thinks i have AK going to be flipping a lot = high variance play, also he should be 3bting a lot less there for sure.

How funny is that just focus on blind play and noticing more and more things now ...


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Didnt have anything to do with him feeling pot committed I don't think. They are bad at these limits and think 99 is the nuts, that simple lol.

 

[Countmein]

New to forum. I do pretty well on micros playing just under 50% of pots to flop probably 35% to turn? How much do you think I can increased profitability by using your ranges pocketehs. I use any two card strategy and mainly use micro's to increase my post flip play. Only problem is when I do flop big hands players become likely to call me on outrageous draws. Occasionally they hit and I get stacked. Advice please.

 

[loafes]

New to forum. I do pretty well on micros playing just under 50% of pots to flop probably 35% to turn? How much do you think I can increased profitability by using your ranges pocketehs. I use any two card strategy and mainly use micro's to increase my post flip play. Only problem is when I do flop big hands players become likely to call me on outrageous draws. Occasionally they hit and I get stacked. Advice please.

You're playing waaay too many hands. Seeing 50% of flops is outrageous even if you were just talking about late position. In fact starting out I would say you should only be playing about 15% of hands

 

[Cafeman]

Seeing 50% of flops is probably not optimal

 

[pocketehs]

kinda messed this up so i think turn is a bet and river is a check or x/f. over call just looks so strong


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $23.55
SB: $26.79
BB: $35.18 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: $10.74 (VPIP: 55.56, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (MP): $40.17
CO: $92.24 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 60.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 5)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:heart: K:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, BTN calls $0.75, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) J:heart: K:club: J:club:
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, BB calls $1.75

Turn: ($7.60, 3 players) 3:diamond:
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($7.60, 3 players) 9:heart:
BB bets $5.00, fold, fold

 

[duggs]

I bet turn, river is fine as played.

 

[Logan2]

Turn is a blank but draws still there, bet for sure vs two villains. About river, everyone looks weak on turn so river bet could mean anything, but because is MW it does look strong like a value bet,
FD brick but SD complete, i guess we could beat KQ, not sure anything else we could beat that bet there (and that amount) vs two.


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[pocketehs]

i think its b/f turn and then check river is best. but as played i think i have to fold river. i play so bad

 

[Logan2]

Yeah, if pops turn if we bet then fold looks best.

You fold river, why the cut of veins?.

How many tables are you running?.
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[duggs]

tbh its the river sizing more than anything that makes me want to fold.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

This video ended up skipping half the footage I took, including the most interesting hand of the session, but oh well. Features some pretty meh singing on my part, so apologies in advance:

 

[doomasiggy]

1)PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 104 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
SB: 107 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (BB): 126 BB
UTG: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
MP: 223.5 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 50)
CO: 68.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:spade:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) T:heart: 6:heart: Q:heart:
Hero bets 10 BB, UTG calls 10 BB

Turn: (38.5 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
Hero bets 16 BB, UTG raises to 88.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 72.5 BB

River: (215.5 BB, 2 players) J:spade:

Pretty sure I played this badly, feel like I should've bet more on the turn, thoughts?

2)PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 136.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): 103 BB
BB: 163 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 126.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: 265 BB (VPIP: 5.26, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 333.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:spade: J:heart:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) 5:spade: J:diamond: 8:spade:
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB, fold

Turn: (16 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets 10 BB, Hero raises to 29 BB, BTN raises to 60 BB, Hero ???

Feel like shoving over this is standard but just double checking my thinking

3)PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 96 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 108 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, Hands: 27)
BB: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG: 58.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.74, PFR: 8.95, 3Bet Preflop: 1.39, Hands: 196)
Hero (CO): 190 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:spade: K:spade:

UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 3 players) K:club: A:spade: T:diamond:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, fold

Turn: (12.5 BB, 2 players) A:club:
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (12.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club:
BB checks, Hero checks

This one I'm pretty sure I butchered.

 

[micromachine]

Hand 1) I would've bet the turn bigger, you have an over-pair and the nut flush draw there is no need to make a weak bet here imo. As played I think you can probably find a fold, he's prolly bluffing some of the time due to your small bet sizing, but will mostly have 2pair+ there I think. But it's close, I don't think calling would be that terrible.

Hand 2) Meh he's and unknown and it's 2nl, I'd probably be shoving over there and crying when he turns over 88 or T9, I don't think you can fold.

Hand 3) Bigger on the flop (4bb), as played bet/fold the river to 7bb.

 

[micromachine]

Up to 48 buy-ins for 10nl, really enjoying this level atm it's more aggressive and way more fun than 5nl

 

[duggs]

Up to 48 buy-ins for 10nl, really enjoying this level atm it's more aggressive and way more fun than 5nl

So 2 more bi till the shot ends????

 

[micromachine]

Yep 2 more bi and I'll consider myself moved up

 

[DrazaFFT]

Guys just a little quicky one, i have almost doubled my bankroll at PKR by playing one table at 2nl/4nl from $20 to $39ish, should i start considering one more table or it is still to soon???

i played about 1200 hands so far in about month and a half, with sessions of 100 to maybe 150 hands a session, games there are really slow, about 50 hands an hour