MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

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Thanks for watching Draza :)

@11:00 - Trouble about betting the river there is that if he's a calling station fish like I think he is he'll probably call any weak pair and better but fold any unpaired hand, so turning my hand into a bluff seems bad. And I clearly can't bet for value and I have some SD value so I think checking is best.

@23:00 - Red is nit. I was looking at his 'fold to 3bet' stat there. On my HUD when it's written 3b: 4 / 100 the first number is his 3bet stat (how often he 3bets = 4%) and the second number is his F3b stat (how often he folds to 3bets = 100%). But the F3b stat takes a long time to converge (mean anything), hovering over the stat showed me that he had folded to 3bets 4/4 times, so a pretty small and meaningless sample actually, and this didn't factor into my decision to cbet.

@25:00 - yeah no need to go crazy with over pairs, bet them for value but be ready to fold if raised. And don't always assume they have a flush when a third suit hits :)

Trackers are so useful for letting you know who the regs are and who the fish are and for identifying exploitable tendencies the regs have.
 
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What are you using to record it?

I'll try to have a look over it in a wee bit.
 
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Quicktime screen recording on high quality setting (on Mac)
 
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^Shot on 10nl go bad or playing 5nl deep was just for the video?.

Nice set up on hud to save space on 3b/F3b and cb/Fcb.
Just added AF, CB and FCB for each street, so is kind of long to add AFxx/AFTxx/AFRxx, CBFxx/CBTxx/CBRxx and FCBFxx/FCBTxx/FCBRxx for each one (and get lost if not name it)

So your way is going to make it much shorter Axx/xx/xx , CBxx/xx/xx, FCBxx/xx/xx, kind of stupid on my part to not think on that before:eek:


 
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/Logan/ said:
^Shot on 10nl go bad or playing 5nl deep was just for the video?.

Nice set up on hud to save space on 3b/F3b and cb/Fcb.
Just added AF, CB and FCB for each street, so is kind of long to add AFxx/AFTxx/AFRxx, CBFxx/CBTxx/CBRxx and FCBFxx/FCBTxx/FCBRxx for each one (and get lost if not name it)

So your way is going to make it much shorter Axx/xx/xx , CBxx/xx/xx, FCBxx/xx/xx, kind of stupid on my part to not think on that before:eek:



Why not just have flop stats then have pop ups by each street cause its not going to converge quick enough and shouldn't affect Preflop decisions
 
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Well I disagree that it would never affect preflop, but def agree that it doesn't converge very quickly.
 
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are you going to be looking for float spots at 10nl? theres probs way more value to have other stuff on there rather than turn aggression frequency
 
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playing really solid lately but i think variance is leveling itself out :( running into some sick hands right now. just had a -4BI session ekkk

if someone will record through TV id be willing to make a vid at either 25NL or lower for some of the other guys :)
 
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Def at some point Jake - you know I'm keen for it, just need to get through this hump of school.
 
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/Logan/ said:
^Shot on 10nl go bad or playing 5nl deep was just for the video?.


Nah still surviving at 10nl, had a terrible -15 buy-in session shortly after posting a screenshot of my roll when it reached $500, but still quite comfortably rolled for 10nl. Not gonna post graphs or cashier screenshots again, it always curses me!

Hows your grind going man, still playing 6max cash?​
 
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Now they have Zoom heads-up, is HU not insanely fast already lol
 
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Super strongly considering making a ~$1k w/d and grinding 50nl for more hands (only have about 12k hands there) before playing 100nl for real. Already talked with Jake about it some, but curious if anyone else has an opinion?

I'm so torn, because I'm not proven winner at 50nl, so seems logical to stick there a while, and I'd love to just put some money in my pocket. But on the other hand, I'd love to move up faster too, and 100nl on Bovada is certainly beatable.
 
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taking some out is always a good motivator to improve tho.
 
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Scourrge said:
Super strongly considering making a ~$1k w/d and grinding 50nl for more hands (only have about 12k hands there) before playing 100nl for real. Already talked with Jake about it some, but curious if anyone else has an opinion?

I'm so torn, because I'm not proven winner at 50nl, so seems logical to stick there a while, and I'd love to just put some money in my pocket. But on the other hand, I'd love to move up faster too, and 100nl on Bovada is certainly beatable.

honestly, unless you need it for life expenses/really need something, i say leave it in your roll imo.

Esp, with the current US situation, it's so hard to get $ online. Just bc you have the roll doesn't mean you have to grind 100 if your not comfortable. Personally, I was always trying to move up ASAP, so I did move pretty fast + i'm not huge on needing a big sample size. (If your losing, just move back down imo)

- I think you have the game to beat it, esp with holidays coming up and i'm guessing you'll be able to really grind. Leave the $ on, you'll thank yourself later.
 
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Fwiw, it's not a matter of having lost a bunch or anything. I've only played about 1 - 2k hands at 100nl, and I think I'm almost exactly even anyway.
 
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If you can, keep it in your roll and carry on with 100NL. I was about to say table select like a mother****er (at least to begin with), but you're on Bovada so...

If it was me, that's what I would do.
 
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1)PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 101 BB (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 357.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
UTG: 133 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 10)
MP: 111.5 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
CO: 271.5 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:club:

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, Hero raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 15 BB, fold, CO calls 12 BB

Flop: (53.5 BB, 3 players) T:diamond: K:heart: 9:club:
UTG checks, CO bets 51 BB, Hero ???

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

2) Hero (BTN): 190 BB
SB: 93.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: 70 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 2.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
UTG: 251.5 BB (VPIP: 16.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 80)
MP: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8:diamond: 8:heart:

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (9.5 BB, 2 players) 5:spade: 4:diamond: 2:heart:
UTG bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (21.5 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, UTG calls 12 BB

River: (45.5 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero checks

3.)PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 338 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
SB: 172.5 BB
BB: 65 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 154.5 BB
MP: 101 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (CO): 101 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: A:heart:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club: 5:club: 9:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets 13 BB, fold
 
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Cafeman said:
If you can, keep it in your roll and carry on with 100NL. I was about to say table select like a mother****er (at least to begin with), but you're on Bovada so...

If it was me, that's what I would do.

Well, you can table select to a degree, and I exercise table rejection regularly.

@doom:

1st hand - might be bad but I'm never folding here. I gii.

2nd hand - I like it. Bet sizing on the turn looks solid imo.

3rd hand - Is this a standard flat OOP? I know it's CO vs. BTN, but it's 2nl - are unknowns 3betting air enough here for this to be a good flat 100bb deep OOP? I feel like I just fold. Basically because we see that flop and end up x/f.
 
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Raising with strong draws on the flop like this is always going to be better than calling right?

SB stats: VPIP: 27.78, PFR: 20.37, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 55

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

SB ($25.11)
BB ($37.16)
UTG ($10)
MP ($32.50)
Hero (CO) ($31.67)
Button ($15.07)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J
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, K
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2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, SB raises to $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.42) 10
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, A
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, 4
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(2 players)
SB bets $1.75, Hero raises to $4.20, 1 fold

Total pot: $5.92 | Rake: $0.27

Results below:
Hero didn't show J
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, K
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.
 
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I should've raised here I think, didn't want to raise then commit myself to calling a nut flush shove but that's being results oriented as sets and weaker flushes can call a river raise. How much should I have made it?

UTG stats: VPIP: 26.04, PFR: 17.71, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 99

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

SB ($26.07)
BB ($25.19)
UTG ($25.53)
Hero (Button) ($35.12)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9
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, K
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UTG raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.08) 7
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, 5
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, 9
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(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, SB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.58) 3
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(3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $1.20, Hero calls $1.20, 1 fold

River: ($4.98) 8
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(2 players)
UTG bets $3.20, Hero calls $3.20

Total pot: $11.38 | Rake: $0.51

Results below:
Hero had 9
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, K
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(flush, King high).
UTG had J
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, Q
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(flush, Queen high).
Outcome: Hero won $10.87
 
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Anyone know why I can post hands directly from PT4? It looks fine when I preview post but when I post the suits don't show properly...
 
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micromachine said:
Anyone know why I can post hands directly from PT4? It looks fine when I preview post but when I post the suits don't show properly...
Maybe you are using the convert wrong button?

I hit the one in the middle lol.
 
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@MM:

Hand 1, really depends on stats. He's 3bet it, so calling vs. raising being better is just gonna come down to his range. Do we have implied odds, do we have fold equity, etc. Imo, even though we don't have a big sample, his 3bet range is looking wide enough that our FE is more valuable than any potential implied odds here, so I like the raise.

Hand 2, I like the whole hand except for the river. I think this is a really easy value raise.

Edit: Just saw hand 2 spoiler. Lol.
 
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Yeah i prolly 3x the river bet maybe a bit less i dunno.

I dont fold to shove either lol
 
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micromachine said:
Anyone know why I can post hands directly from PT4? It looks fine when I preview post but when I post the suits don't show properly...

For whatever reason, I've noticed you cannot edit OR preview after pasting it into the reply box. If you do, it comes out messed up. So in other words, once you paste, you're done.

Hand 1: Everything here looks pretty std.

Hand 2: I definitely raise the river for value. I'd prolly make it around 8.75. I think we can expect sets/straights/smaller flushes and maybe some 2pr like 98 that had TP/GS on flop to call us. So yeah definitely raising. If he does 3b jam I think we have to fold though.
 
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