MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Cafeman]

TBH it's a lot of fun, so I'll probs take my free €5 as far as I can. Currently I'm sitting at around €88. It also gives me a huge insight into how differently the games run. The amount of preflop limping is unbelievable.

 

[micromachine]

5-->88 is good going! How's the traffic on there?

I must say I have a lot of fun at 5nl, even when playing 12 tables, not much pressure and owning people in hands is fun ha.

 

[Cafeman]

Traffic's not that great, but there are about 15 tables of 4NL 6max running atm, so not too bad either. I've just been playing my normal 6 tables at a time, and what with the software being way slower than stars, I suppose I ought to make that at least 8.

One other thing I have noticed, we can profitably open way more hands at the nanos.

 

[Logan2]

Microcrushers, a while back I won a copy of Leakbuster from John A on CC but I cant use it sadly because I have a Mac. Anyone interested in purchasing at a discount? pm me!

I am in exactly the same situation lol except I do have an old PC laptop and I was thinking of loading all my hands onto that. But I considered/am considering selling too. Is yours the PT3 or the Hem version Pocketehs?

So you two steal our chances to win one free copy, and now selling it.? ha FU both


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On other things, this should be totally sustainable right?



GL Cafeman. I think you can open up your range a little more, 31/27 looks kind of nity

 

[Matt Vaughan]

So you two steal our chances to win one free copy, and now selling it.? ha FU both


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On other things, this should be totally sustainable right?
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GL Cafeman. I think you can open up your range a little more, 31/27 looks kind of nity

Confirmed sustainable.

 

[pocketehs]

So you two steal our chances to win one free copy, and now selling it.? ha FU both


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On other things, this should be totally sustainable right?
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nice logan! this is how everyone is currently running against me lol

making a video tomorrow to see if im actually a fish or not

 

[Yoshimiii]

Usually a good sustainable winrate is around 7 BB/100 but at these stakes you can easily crush them for more.

 

[Cafeman]

GL Cafeman. I think you can open up your range a little more, 31/27 looks kind of nity

Haha, but yeah that was a small sample, after 2.1k hands it's calmed down to a more reasonable 29/27.

However, I am having problems with 4NL, as I knew I would lol (fml) so... seriously wtf!!!

Graph for the lols

Spoiler

I am going to stick with this until I sort out how to beat 4NL for the first time in my ****ing life!!! Jeez

 

[Cafeman]

OK, some thoughts on how it differs from 50NL 6max. Double barrels are massively profitable at 4NL/5NL. The amount of calls you'll get with weak hands on the flop that intend to see if you're honest on the turn is astonishing. So, double, and yes at these stakes scare cards really are scare cards (regs at 50 lol when you bet the scare card and snap call). For example, flop is T53 and you cbet and they call, any over card that comes just bet.

Other thoughts, they'll fold better and call with worse like all the time, specifically talking about made weak hands vs draws here. So if you get to the river and tonnes of draws have missed but you've got **** all, fire half pot.. trust me!

The limp/calling is crazy, and the folding to cbets is super high too for these players, I just don't get it. Difficult to put players on a range a lot of the time so I just go with the assumption that at some point during the hand I'll have to look at my cards when they start playing back - cos they aren't ever playing back with complete air.

However, I do need to focus on playing a range more oriented to value than position/spots apparently. Just some thoughts for now, what do you others think?

 

[Ducky7]

OK, some thoughts on how it differs from 50NL 6max. Double barrels are massively profitable at 4NL/5NL. The amount of calls you'll get with weak hands on the flop that intend to see if you're honest on the turn is astonishing. So, double, and yes at these stakes scare cards really are scare cards (regs at 50 lol when you bet the scare card and snap call). For example, flop is T53 and you cbet and they call, any over card that comes just bet.

Other thoughts, they'll fold better and call with worse like all the time, specifically talking about made weak hands vs draws here. So if you get to the river and tonnes of draws have missed but you've got **** all, fire half pot.. trust me!

The limp/calling is crazy, and the folding to cbets is super high too for these players, I just don't get it. Difficult to put players on a range a lot of the time so I just go with the assumption that at some point during the hand I'll have to look at my cards when they start playing back - cos they aren't ever playing back with complete air.

However, I do need to focus on playing a range more oriented to value than position/spots apparently. Just some thoughts for now, what do you others think?

This is all well and good, but arent you struggling to beat 4nl, so based on that i am not going to follow your advice... sorry

 

[Logan2]

I think that when you get so down on stakes to this levels, people are so fish that you become one too after time. ha

Agree on the two barrels, and for sure want to bet more if don´t want to end with multiway pots.

oh, and stop stealing my fold button god dammit, i just can´t find it.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

CO: $8.10
BTN: $2.44
SB: $9.65 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 125
Hero (BB): $5.09 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 3.2, Hands: 12071
UTG: $6.49 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 46
MP: $5.28

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A

A

UTG calls $0.05, 3 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.26, UTG calls $0.21, SB calls $0.21

Flop: ($0.78) 3

4

5

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.71, UTG raises to $6.23, SB calls $6.23, Hero looks for the fold button but then think they are fish so calls $4.12 all in

Turn: ($18.07) T

(3 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($18.07) 8

(3 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler

Final Pot: $18.07
SB shows 4

3

Hero shows A

A

UTG shows 6

7

UTG wins $14.64
(Rake: $0.75)

If don´t beat the fish then mean you are one too, right?:icon_pira


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[Cafeman]

I'm so going to though... TESTIFY!

 

[Cafeman]

Haha Logan, no one likes folding, but if you're going to, I guess we could do it there. However, you are up against an overpair and a FD a non insignificant amount of the time. Meh, yeah just fold.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I think that when you get so down on stakes to this levels, people are so fish that you become one too after time. ha

Agree on the two barrels, and for sure want to bet more if don´t want to end with multiway pots.

oh, and stop stealing my fold button god dammit, i just can´t find it.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

CO: $8.10
BTN: $2.44
SB: $9.65 - VPIP: 47, PFR: 21, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 125
Hero (BB): $5.09 - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 4, AF: 3.2, Hands: 12071
UTG: $6.49 - VPIP: 54, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 46
MP: $5.28

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A

A

UTG calls $0.05, 3 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.26, UTG calls $0.21, SB calls $0.21

Flop: ($0.78) 3

4

5

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.71, UTG raises to $6.23, SB calls $6.23, Hero looks for the fold button but then think they are fish so calls $4.12 all in

Turn: ($18.07) T

(3 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($18.07) 8

(3 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler

Final Pot: $18.07
SB shows 4

3

Hero shows A

A

UTG shows 6

7

UTG wins $14.64
(Rake: $0.75)

If don´t beat the fish then mean you are one too, right?:icon_pira


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Lawl that flop is a snap-fold. I'd have to think about it if JUST the 54/0 over-bet shoved, but with the call? Snappity-snap fold.

 

[Cafeman]

I think I've cracked it!!!

Spoiler

Go blue line!

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Solid sample size itt.

 

[Cafeman]

Solid sample size itt.

Obv gonna continue until I reach a meaningful sample (250k?) but I just couldn't wait to share the joy of my achievements with the group. Sorry.

Next update in approx 8 months.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Obv gonna continue until I reach a meaningful sample (250k?) but I just couldn't wait to share the joy of my achievements with the group. Sorry.

Next update in approx 8 months.

I look forward to it.

 

[Logan2]

Obv gonna continue until I reach a meaningful sample (250k?) but I just couldn't wait to share the joy of my achievements with the group. Sorry.

Next update in approx 8 months.

lol lol

Don´t pay attention to scourrge, he is just jelous you can play in a rogue site that probably is better than the open usa sites

About the hand, agree is a snap fold vs 2 in that board, was posted to keep me real to how still making stupid mistakes.

Keep the updates coming, is fun to see how everyones doing. (even more fun if a 50nl reg struggle to bit 4nl ha).

 

[pocketehs]

Ok friends. Posting this hand to embarrass myself so that I somehow stop being such a station and calling when Im clearly dead.

Clearly Stars is trying to make me a better player or something....might start a thread called "folding AA/KK OTF" cause this is how jokes Ive been running lol




v 60/0/2 over 30

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($37.86)
MP ($5)
Villain (CO) ($13.66)
Hero (Button) ($9.58)
SB ($5.44)
BB ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, MP bets $0.15, Villain calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.42) J

, 6

, Q

(2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $0.90, Villain calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.22) 10

(2 players)
Villain bets $0.05, Hero raises to $1.90, Villain calls $1.85

River: ($7.02) 6

(2 players)
Villain bets $2.15, Hero calls $2.15

Total pot: $11.32 | Rake: $0.47

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Ok friends. Posting this hand to embarrass myself so that I somehow stop being such a station and calling when Im clearly dead.

Clearly Stars is trying to make me a better player or something....might start a thread called "folding AA/KK OTF" cause this is how jokes Ive been running lol




v 60/0/2 over 30

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($37.86)
MP ($5)
Villain (CO) ($13.66)
Hero (Button) ($9.58)
SB ($5.44)
BB ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, MP bets $0.15, Villain calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.42) J

, 6

, Q

(2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $0.90, Villain calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.22) 10

(2 players)
Villain bets $0.05, Hero raises to $1.90, Villain calls $1.85

River: ($7.02) 6

(2 players)
Villain bets $2.15, Hero calls $2.15

Total pot: $11.32 | Rake: $0.47

??? Uh, wp nh?

 

[micromachine]

Been trying out flatting 3bets with premiums to extract maximum value, thanks for the tip Cafeman

CO is pretty nitty and UTG is a likely fish so I flatted the flop too hoping to keep the fish in.

CO had KK and UTG had JJ, not sure why its not showing the mucked hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

CO ($4.25)
Button ($5)
Hero (SB) ($5.56)
BB ($4.08)
UTG ($6)
MP ($11.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, A

UTG bets $0.10, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.48, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.46, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.49) 6

, 7

, 2

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.06, Hero calls $1.06, UTG calls $1.06

Turn: ($4.67) 10

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2.71 (All-In), Hero raises to $4.02 (All-In), UTG calls $4.02

River: ($15.42) Q

(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $15.42 | Rake: $0.64

Results below:
Hero had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
UTG didn't show
CO didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $14.78

 

[Cafeman]

lol lol

Don´t pay attention to scourrge, he is just jelous you can play in a rogue site that probably is better than the open usa sites

Hehe, that's what I thought until I chatted with him in the Skype group. Turns out he's doing the same thing as me, playing 4NL on a dodgy site!

The only difference being, he doesn't seem to be enjoying it as much as me.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Ok friends. Posting this hand to embarrass myself so that I somehow stop being such a station and calling when Im clearly dead.

Clearly Stars is trying to make me a better player or something....might start a thread called "folding AA/KK OTF" cause this is how jokes Ive been running lol




v 60/0/2 over 30

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($37.86)
MP ($5)
Villain (CO) ($13.66)
Hero (Button) ($9.58)
SB ($5.44)
BB ($8.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

1 fold, MP bets $0.15, Villain calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.42) J

, 6

, Q

(2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets $0.90, Villain calls $0.90

Turn: ($3.22) 10

(2 players)
Villain bets $0.05, Hero raises to $1.90, Villain calls $1.85

River: ($7.02) 6

(2 players)
Villain bets $2.15, Hero calls $2.15

Total pot: $11.32 | Rake: $0.47

what are u on about, you played this hand good, I would be tempted to shove the river.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Been trying out flatting 3bets with premiums to extract maximum value, thanks for the tip Cafeman

CO is pretty nitty and UTG is a likely fish so I flatted the flop too hoping to keep the fish in.

CO had KK and UTG had JJ, not sure why its not showing the mucked hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

CO ($4.25)
Button ($5)
Hero (SB) ($5.56)
BB ($4.08)
UTG ($6)
MP ($11.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, A

UTG bets $0.10, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.48, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.46, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.49) 6

, 7

, 2

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $1.06, Hero calls $1.06, UTG calls $1.06

Turn: ($4.67) 10

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $2.71 (All-In), Hero raises to $4.02 (All-In), UTG calls $4.02

River: ($15.42) Q

(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $15.42 | Rake: $0.64

Results below:
Hero had A

, A

(one pair, Aces).
UTG didn't show
CO didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $14.78

Utg is always gonna call pre-flop if you just cold call the 3 bet so why not 4 bet it if the CO is very nitty, or I would etleast raise the flop, your asking to be sucked out on here tbh.