MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Yoshimiii]

Gotta be a fold OTR? Villain is nit 13/7, 0% 3b, 100 hands


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($10.24)
CO ($5)
Button ($3.83)
SB ($5.48)
BB ($4.97)
Hero (UTG) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

Hero bets $0.17, 3 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.51) 2

, 10

, 7

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.21) J

(2 players)
SB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

River: ($2.91) J

(2 players)
SB bets $2.10, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.91 | Rake: $0.12

Results below:

Spoiler

SB didn't show

Fold river all day long, he has a full house probably.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Lol hand from yesterday, I shovelled the river to get max value from Tx, was blown away when I saw what he mucked


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($5)
UTG ($6.26)
MP ($5.84)
Button ($4.52)
Hero (SB) ($9.63)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 10

UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Button bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.50) K

, J

, Q

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.50) 8

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35, 1 fold

River: ($1.20) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $9.13 (All-In), UTG calls $5.76 (All-In)

Total pot: $12.72 | Rake: $0.53

Results below:
Hero had A

, 10

(straight, Ace high).
UTG had K

, 5

(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $12.19

Lol nh, I wouldn't shove river, makes hand pretty transparent but I would definitely overbet it big.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

Lol hand from yesterday, I shovelled the river to get max value from Tx, was blown away when I saw what he mucked


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($5)
UTG ($6.26)
MP ($5.84)
Button ($4.52)
Hero (SB) ($9.63)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 10

why are we flatting pre?

reg iso'd a fish's wide limp range with his own wide range OTB and you flat ATs, why.. because you think you're ahead of the regs range right?

but we don't make enough for the times we x/f or call x/f turns + rivers, and especially when we don't donk our value hands on boards that the regs either going to smash, or x back, losing us a street of value.

if we go for an x/r postflop, because of the order of action the regs going to bet, we're going to raise and the fish is going to fold because of all the action ahead of him, losing value unless he's got 2P+ or monster draws.

if we x/c we keep the fish in but then have to rely on reg barreling off his stack on a good run-out.

this is probably a flat IP, assuming we have a skill advantage on the reg.. but these are great spots to pick up money because regs snap 4x fish's limps and fold like 90% to regs 3bets because no-ones figured out that its a
great spot to be light at the micros yet imo.

ATs could be considered too strong to do it with but its meh IP, deffo a 3b in the SB.

3bet pre - as played donk flop -as played pot/consider overbetting turn - river shoves fine though

 

[micromachine]

Yeah I think there are certainly 3b spots I'm missing out on, it's something I'm working on atm. Punishing regs who try to iso fish IP is likely to be a money maker as you say but here I'm not sure it's better than flatting because

1) It'll prob scare off the limping fish and I really want to be playing pots with him with hands like ATs in position or out
2) I'm not sure the reg is really a reg here, he doesn't have a full stack and to iso properly I would expect him to do 4-5x BB raise
3) As you said, ATs is a bit too nice to 3b bluff with.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

1) we're gonna struggle to get value from the fish OOP MW anyway
1a) if you're going to let the reg check back when you flop straights you shouldn't be playing OOP then.. consider postflop before you snap flat in a spot (used to be a leak of mine)
2) bad regs have sizing problems and don't rebuy, you've been longer than me, surely you've seen the 1000's of thread by noobs who want to get serious and iso + everything else but don't have auto rebuy on for like their 1st 3 months of grinding.
3) its not THAT strong, its ATo +3% eq. - I'd consider AJo+ too strong to 3bet bluff with. the reason we're 3bet bluffing with it is we're ahead of the fishes range for when he randomly overflats. + when the reg flats our 3bet IP we can cb and take down flops + turns a lot.

 

[micromachine]

1) Hmmmm there is always possibility for some serious value towning with a fish. Idk I just love playing as many pots with fish as possible cos they spaz out so often.
1a) There is a case for donking the flop, I'm always nervous that it will look too strong coming from a TAG reg like myself but ya probably not to a fish.
2) Maybe, I can check his stats later
3) Good points, maybe I'm too worried about scaring off the fish and should remember that he'll probs flat a fair bit with worse than ATs.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

1) its a -ev flat regardless, though most of the hands you're gonna be OOP to him anyway.. from the HH doesnt look like he spazzes he's just a POW so stronger hands than this are needed me thinks.
1a) donking looks weaker than x/r + it allows the fish to flat and the reg to raise over or us to get 3streets vs the fish when the reg lets go.. we're doing with with AK, KQ etc etc.
3) thats if he flats, our main aim here is to take the pot down pre. there are better hands to flat in the blinds vs fish limp + iso

 

[duggs]

honestly dont think overcalling is that bad since it is defo going multiway. he also made it tiny.
definitely leading on this board tho since i think a regs air never cbets it

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

only if we donk our value hands some of the time, I just think people get into the habit of seeing ATs+ and snap flatting without considering what happens postflop

 

[duggs]

regs have to play so straightforward v us here tho, and we do fine v his range. and with the fish in the hand our equity will be pretty well defined, ie we wont be punting often.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

do they? i'm cbetting most dry boards IP with most of my range since SB's folding so much and we can outplay the fish HU on later streets

+ doubt micro's calling down on T53r 4Q runouts etc, and he can't get decent value post OOP

flattings ok, but we get a bunch of marginal spots, and we're OOP and fish dont pay off as often as we'd like, and taking the pot down pre is good enough, and winning a 3bet pot OTF is good too.

 

[Cafeman]

why are we flatting pre?

reg iso'd a fish's wide limp range with his own wide range OTB and you flat ATs, why.. because you think you're ahead of the regs range right?

but we don't make enough for the times we x/f or call x/f turns + rivers, and especially when we don't donk our value hands on boards that the regs either going to smash, or x back, losing us a street of value.

if we go for an x/r postflop, because of the order of action the regs going to bet, we're going to raise and the fish is going to fold because of all the action ahead of him, losing value unless he's got 2P+ or monster draws.

if we x/c we keep the fish in but then have to rely on reg barreling off his stack on a good run-out.

this is probably a flat IP, assuming we have a skill advantage on the reg.. but these are great spots to pick up money because regs snap 4x fish's limps and fold like 90% to regs 3bets because no-ones figured out that its a
great spot to be light at the micros yet imo.

ATs could be considered too strong to do it with but its meh IP, deffo a 3b in the SB.

3bet pre - as played donk flop -as played pot/consider overbetting turn - river shoves fine though

Me likey.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

 

[AlfieAA]

Any of you uk guys play on hilliam will?! I got $10 for passing a quiz on a strategy site lol, is it soft?....its part of the ipoker network isn't it?

 

[micromachine]

Yeah it's part of iPoker, softer than Stars from what I've heard. Let me know how it is cos I'm thinking of getting on there soon to grind out the 200% first deposit bonus

 

[AlfieAA]

Yeah it's part of iPoker, softer than Stars from what I've heard. Let me know how it is cos I'm thinking of getting on there soon to grind out the 200% first deposit bonus

Ah man the software is quite frustrating, the tables are all full, and it takes about 20 mins to find a seat, the gameplay is lolbad slow..takes about 5 minutes to play 1 hand...but free monies is just that, will give it another few chances, but its not great...however you might love it, we are all different

 

[Cafeman]

Pretty sure I've said this already, but why not start tables yourself?

Yes, the software plays way slower than pokerstars, I tend to play 8 tables no problem on ipoker but only 6 on stars.

 

[AlfieAA]

Pretty sure I've said this already, but why not start tables yourself?

Yes, the software plays way slower than pokerstars, I tend to play 8 tables no problem on ipoker but only 6 on stars.

yeah you mentioned that a few days ago and its a good idea...will start doing that....and yeah i suppose you can play more tables on ipoker because you get more time to think

 

[orangepeeleo]

Just waitlist yourself on all the tables for your limit, you'll get on 7-8 tables in like 10 mins,

You do have to put effort in to playing on ipoker, but I guess that keeps a lot of regs away so it's fine by me, I've learnt ahk scripting and wrote my own scripts because there's none out there ffs lol you've gotta put the effort in but with all my hotkeys and waitlist shit it's just as easy playing there as it is on stars!

 

[Cafeman]

It's a good idea, cos the rec players join and you have them to yourself for a bit

 

[micromachine]

Built up a nice stack on this 5nl table Mancun was such a crazy fish, I stacked him 6 times lol

 

[ScottishMatt]

Gotta be a fold OTR? Villain is nit 13/7, 0% 3b, 100 hands


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($10.24)
CO ($5)
Button ($3.83)
SB ($5.48)
BB ($4.97)
Hero (UTG) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, Q

Hero bets $0.17, 3 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.51) 2

, 10

, 7

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.21) J

(2 players)
SB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

River: ($2.91) J

(2 players)
SB bets $2.10, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.91 | Rake: $0.12

Results below:

Spoiler

SB didn't show

Using MM's hand as an example what range would you guys assign to a player who X/C'ed flop and donked turn. I've called down in a few of these spots lately but almost every time someone has a Set/2P/Trips. Is this a pure value line that doesn't want to risk me checking it back?

 

[Yoshimiii]

Interesting how poker is, I can contemplate for ages about folding a full house but I can't fold one pair . What do you guys think of this hand:

No stats on villains as my HUD is completely messed up, (contacting support about it atm).

My thought process: Villains line is so so so strong imo I decided to flat call him down, why would he not cbet that dry flop but raise the blank card on the turn unless he had a monster? I put him on K/K here. I think we can narrow it down to a 3, K/K or quads in his hand here, I just didn't think that there would be many 3's opening from UTG that would take this line, only one maybe is A/3s but even then UTG it's unlikely I thought.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($9.14)
UTG ($9.85)
Hero (MP) ($16.72)
Button ($10.82)
SB ($12.91)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 8

, 8

UTG bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 3

, K

, 3

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.95) 8

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, UTG raises to $2.40, Hero calls $1

River: ($5.75) Q

(2 players)
UTG bets $2.70, Hero calls $2.70

Total pot: $11.15 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

UTG had 3

, 3

(four of a kind, threes).
Hero didn't show 8

, 8

(nothing).
Outcome: UTG won $10.65

 

[Yoshimiii]

Using MM's hand as an example what range would you guys assign to a player who X/C'ed flop and donked turn. I've called down in a few of these spots lately but almost every time someone has a Set/2P/Trips. Is this a pure value line that doesn't want to risk me checking it back?

Ye at these stakes when villain calls flop and donks turn it is usually a value line, unless the bet is small as fish do, then it's usually a blocking bet (however sometimes an inducing bet! believe it or not by fish e.g. the min bet).

 

[ScottishMatt]

Is this a fold pre?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2170333
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $5.00
Hero (UTG): $5.00
MP: $6.89
CO: $4.12
BTN: $2.36
SB: $12.68

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q

Q

Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.27) 7

J

7

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $3.90 all in, CO calls $1.52 all in

Turn: ($8.31) 7

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($8.31) 9

(2 players - 2 are all in)