alot of players at zoom have the autofold selected so doesnt matter what you raise if they have pretermined they will fold.
Also try to keep raise sizes the same, if you are only raising 3x with monsters and min raising with other hands easily exploitable, although not sure in HEM is there is a stat regarding opening bet size so may get away with it at Zoom
Maybe size differences could be like 3x UTG as likely to be OOP and maybe raise 2.5 on the Button as you will be in position
PS the charts I posted were adapted from Johns, which includes Flop, Turn and River
Makes a change. Some pretty outrageous luck today on 888.
I have always run well on that site.
Sorry for posting the fish twice today, its just too good
Nice stats especially the 9BB/100 ones, although some of these figures can get skewed when it merges different stakes.
I can beat your stats on MTTS but cash a different story Im trying to grind the micros and set a target of 5BB but struggling.
All 6MAX
Occasionally dip back at 2nl but only at 0.69 after 40K (although 10 Buyins down $EV diff)
but just got there tonight at 5nl (2 buyins up $EV Diff)
main difference on stats is I seem
Tighter VPIP/PFR at 5nl
lower WTSD%
Slightly Better W$SD%
Slightly bett Agg and AGG%
3Bet still too high on both
PS whats the CC% is that Check Call % and what should it be around
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rhombus said:
PS whats the CC% is that Check Call % and what should it be around
Your stats are starting to look better. I wouldn't worry too much about your 3bet%. Although just a tad high from optimal I would be very surprised if this was any sort of leak. At the micros you are probably winning a lot from this as players don't adjust well to being 3bet at the lower levels. Its just something to be aware of as when you get to 25nl you will get 4bet bluffed and called a lot more if your 3bet% is too high, especially if its high from the blinds.
CC% is Cold Call %. I have been reducing this from 17-18% last year and am still working on reducing this down in the BB.
I'm reasonably happy with 8-9% across the board at the moment. The lower this is the less your red line will spew if you aren't solid postflop.
You can have a higher CC% if you have a good post flop game, you do need to have some sort of calling range in the CO and Button to take advantage of your position.
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My red line goes out of control. I wish mine was tame
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Sticky fish. Any comments on my thinking here?
Aggression factor seems to be the key to unlock these decisions.
Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Preflop: Hero is CO with A♠ Q♠
4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.75 (he looks a little fishy so just bumped up the 3bet sizing)
Flop: ($2.25) 8♣ 3♥ Q♦ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.78, MP3 calls $1.78
Ok first thing I look at now is how sticky he is and how aggressive,
his wtsd is 33% and his post flop aggression is quite high at 50%. We don't have many hands on him but combined with his stack size and his vpip/pfr gap hes looking like a sticky fish.
In that case intend to bet the turn for value, I'm looking for 3 streets here off a villain like this.
What range am I giving him? 88 99 TT JJ KQ QJs AQ 33 are probable but who knows with this type.
Turn: ($5.81) 3♣ (2 players) MP3 bets $6.59 and is all-in,
This bet makes no sense with the flop call, if he had a set as an aggressive player he should have been raising....the fact that he didn't raise on the flop makes this shove look very suspicious. He is aggressive and this looks like a shove from a flush draw to me. If he had a value hand why not bet smaller or check raise to eek out some money from me. The shove now just looks like a 'go away' bet with some equity. The turn 3 is actually quite comforting as it reduces the chances of him having 33, the only hand i fear is 88 but this just doesn't make sense with the shove.
Hero calls $6.59
River: ($18.99) A♦ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: $18.99 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: 8♣ 3♥ Q♦ 3♣ A♦
MP3 showed 8♠ A♣ and lost (-$9.42 net)
Hero showed A♠ Q♠ and won $18.05 ($8.63 net)
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Figaroo2 said:
Aggression factor seems to be the key to unlock these decisions.
Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Preflop: Hero is CO with A♠ Q♠
4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.05, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.75 (he looks a little fishy so just bumped up the 3bet sizing)
Flop: ($2.25) 8♣ 3♥ Q♦ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.78, MP3 calls $1.78
Ok first thing I look at now is how sticky he is and how aggressive,
his wtsd is 33% and his post flop aggression is quite high at 50%. We don't have many hands on him but combined with his stack size and his vpip/pfr gap hes looking like a sticky fish.
In that case intend to bet the turn for value, I'm looking for 3 streets here off a villain like this.
What range am I giving him? 88 99 TT JJ KQ QJs AQ 33 are probable but who knows with this type.
Turn: ($5.81) 3♣ (2 players) MP3 bets $6.59 and is all-in,
This bet makes no sense with the flop call, if he had a set as an aggressive player he should have been raising....the fact that he didn't raise on the flop makes this shove look very suspicious. He is aggressive and this looks like a shove from a flush draw to me. If he had a value hand why not bet smaller or check raise to eek out some money from me. The shove now just looks like a 'go away' bet with some equity. The turn 3 is actually quite comforting as it reduces the chances of him having 33, the only hand i fear is 88 but this just doesn't make sense with the shove.
Hero calls $6.59
River: ($18.99) A♦ (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: $18.99 pot ($0.94 rake)
Final Board: 8♣ 3♥ Q♦ 3♣ A♦
MP3 showed 8♠ A♣ and lost (-$9.42 net)
Hero showed A♠ Q♠ and won $18.05 ($8.63 net)
I think you nailed it as far as your thought process! The larger 3bet pre, going for three streets of value with tptk and your assessment of his aggression (idk what this agg factor means because I use pt4). I think you pegged his range as much too strong with the hands you'd listed but you knew he could have all sorts of junk those are just the hands that make sense to you I'm guessing.
I faced a very similar sticky and aggressive fish lately. It's funny you can get so much value with top pair from these guys.
This wasn't long after I'd sat down and I didn't know much about the guy and was slightly worried about a set here.
This was against the same villain a couple of rotations later and I was obviously looking to punish this guy after I had a read on him. It didn't work out but holy spew on his part!
Turn:(41 BB, 2 players) 6♦ Hero bets 25 BB, CO raises to 50.57 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 25.57 BB
River:(142.14 BB, 2 players) Q♣
CO shows Q♥ J♠ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 26%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%) Hero shows J♥ A♥ (Two Pair, Aces and Queens)
(Pre 74%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%) CO wins 139.14 BB
I've been pretty busy with this month so I haven't gotten to play nearly as much as I'd like and I'm a little pissed about it! I did take another shot at 200nl and was up half a buy in pretty quickly but I lost a flip for nearly 50bb and got it in with AK vs J9s for another 50bb and then it was back to 100nl
I think I'm going to make like a one BI buffer before I move up next time. I don't mind losing a couple hundred dollars if I'm satisfied with my play but for some reason loosing that and then having to drop down in stakes makes me a bit tilty!
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rhombus said:
2 spewy hands from just after
Hand 1 at the time thought ok to shove the turn as could blast out somerthing like JJ, AK and even if called i.e. KK getting nearly right odds
Hand 2
again thought about CR flop or maybe Turn but as he was quite aggressive though best to call him down. On river think I just called based on him being aggro, think he put me on flush draw or medium pair
Why would you cal T7 against a LAG that is hyper aggro raising UTG? That's a huge -EV play for you based on your game style.
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John A said:
Totally understand. And there is a lot of bad advice out there. A LOT. So I understand how and why it's hard to sort through to find the good stuff. I'm going to be adding some content to Polished Poker including the below completed default lines. Which, these are the same as starting hand charts. They are general guides in case you're stuck and not sure what to do. But they shouldn't always be followed.
Table folds to MP
MP raises to 3bb
CO 3bets to 11bb
SB?
I folded but should I have squeezed here? CO had been playing a fair amount of hands but I hadn't seen them 3bet yet so I'm not really sure what range they would be 3 betting. Better to fold until I have a better read?
Thoughts?
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Im still out in the boonies and without my laptop so i can't play. I managed to find some wifi so I'll be able to run skype at least.
Can we sweat you Figaroo?
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Sneaky Feet said:
Hey guys. Here's one that just came up.
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MP 110bb
CO 105bb
SB 160bb (hero)
SB dealt K10c
Table folds to MP
MP raises to 3bb
CO 3bets to 11bb
SB?
I folded but should I have squeezed here? CO had been playing a fair amount of hands but I hadn't seen them 3bet yet so I'm not really sure what range they would be 3 betting. Better to fold until I have a better read?
OH!!! Okay lol ya then I can't squeeze in this situation. And a 4b doesn't seem profitable enough of the time with K10s against even a late position 3 bet. At least not with out knowing more about villains range.
Thanks Rhombus.
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Sneaky Feet said:
Here's another one from a different table
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CO 110bb (me)
Button 107bb
Table folds to CO w Jd10h
CO raises 3bb
Button calls 3bb
Flop
7s8s5d
CO bets 4bb
Button raises to 13bb
CO?
I folded here with out the flush draw but if I were holding J10s would this have been a good place to have called or raised?
I would have had a gut shot (4 outs) and a flush draw (9 outs) for a total of 13 outs which would equal:
13 x 4 = 52% on the turn
Call 9bb to win 26bb
So 9/52 gives me 5.7:1?
....balls.
..... I'm missing some thing here. What step did I miss?
its actually 12 outs, 9 for the flush and 3 for the gutshot other wise you count the 9of spades twice.
Saying that you may also have adittonal outs i.e. if your opponent had A8 then you have Jacks and Tens, but you may also have less outs if your opponent had a higher flush draw, thats when it gets complicated
Using the rule of 2 and 4 you normally multiply by 4 but it sometimes gives you a higher %.
Theres actually an adjusted rule of 4 and 2. If you have more than 8 outs you deduct one for each out over 8.
i.e.
9 outs is 36 -1 35%
10 outs is 40-2 = 38%
11 outs is 44-3 = 41%
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rhombus said:
its actually 12 outs, 9 for the flush and 3 for the gutshot other wise you count the 9of spades twice.
Saying that you may also have adittonal outs i.e. if your opponent had A8 then you have Jacks and Tens, but you may also have less outs if your opponent had a higher flush draw, thats when it gets complicated
Using the rule of 2 and 4 you normally multiply by 4 but it sometimes gives you a higher %.
Theres actually an adjusted rule of 4 and 2. If you have more than 8 outs you deduct one for each out over 8.
i.e.
9 outs is 36 -1 35%
10 outs is 40-2 = 38%
11 outs is 44-3 = 41%
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and won $5.44 ($2.98 net)
