youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
I think the reason I jammed was to blow them off a king. Youd be surprised how often it works.
Maybe you're right with the sizing but Im a believer that size matters
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Yeah, true. But you can jump in at any time. You don't need to follow the whole thread. Just read the book and post questions.
I hear what you're saying though. It can look a little overwhelming.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
It's probably pretty close. There's a little more of a chance he has a K in his hand because of 3-bet sizing and position. If the 3-bet was a little larger it would cut it down a bit. At these stakes, and the positioning, you're probably looking at a wide enough range to get him to fold for it to be profitable. I'm not a huge fan of trying to get these kinds of guys to fold 99/TT type hands on this kind of run out, but it's probably marginally profitable.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
I think I'd just dump or raise the flop since you're MW. I wouldn't advise floating MW like this very often.
I like the turn raise. And I think the river shove is good. SB is clearly a fish and he has way more draws in his range than Kx. So sometimes he has Kx and calls it off, sometimes he even folds it (unlikely that these stakes), and most of the time he folds his open ender. flush draw or gutter.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Yes, raise the flop. You have the open ender and back door diamonds. If you just call here, against someone who looks to be a little hyper aggressive, then you're going to be in the same spot on the turn more often than not. If you raise the flop, most of the time you'll get folds and calls versus re-raises. If you get a call, then you can also check the turn if you want and give yourself the chance to fully realize your equity. Those are two important points.
I'd give up on the river. Your hand doesn't make much sense to shove, and this kind of guy will call you down with a deuce.
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rhombus
Legend
Silver Level
AS he was aggro i was surprised at what he had I bet $2.20 on the river and he called with KK.
Would have possily bet more nut put him on Suited Ace or other flush draw
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youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
If I remember right, I floated because it looked like a weak bet. I figured I could easily push him off his hand if the SB wasn't in the way. Maybe this is a leak.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Just bet the flop. The only reason you check here is if you are planning on calling 2 streets because your opponent is aggressive enough to bluff. I mean the turn looks like a donkey draw bet. And the river an inducer. His hand range is going to be leaning so heavily towards flush draw because of his stats, how the hand was played, and open raise sizing that he call, it's pretty crazy. I don't think call here would be horrible, but I don't think he's bluffing almost ever. You're more hoping that he shoves some 2 pair or set, which is possible, BUT these guys tend to also be scared of flushes too much and won't tend to shove into potential ones. So the bottom line is I like the river raise, and I'd probably fold just given all of the evidence in the hand.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Yeah, I think this is too advanced for 5nl imho. People will find a reason to be in the pot if the bet is weak and you call. So you'll have to push 2 people out which is much more difficult and generally unprofitable.
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rhombus
Legend
Silver Level
YGM
1st hand
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ A♦
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.4 BB, CO calls 4.4 BB
Flop: (13.2 BB, 2 players) 4♠ K♣ 8♣
Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB
Turn: (31.2 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB
River: (73.2 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 52.6 BB
Dont think I would have bet the river as you have showdown value with top non paired hand and I reckon he has somethng like KJ
2nd hand
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ J♠
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 5♦ K♠
SB checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB
Turn: (21 BB, 3 players) T♥
SB checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB, fold
River: (76 BB, 2 players) T♣
SB checks, Hero bets 111.8 BB and is all-in
Raise on Turn ok although wont have bet as much
Like the all in on the river.
When they weakbet turn looks like weak Ten or flush draw but when they check River has draw written all over it like flush draw or JQ
1st hand
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♣ A♦
fold, fold, CO raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 6.4 BB, CO calls 4.4 BB
Flop: (13.2 BB, 2 players) 4♠ K♣ 8♣
Hero bets 9 BB, CO calls 9 BB
Turn: (31.2 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 21 BB, CO calls 21 BB
River: (73.2 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 52.6 BB
Dont think I would have bet the river as you have showdown value with top non paired hand and I reckon he has somethng like KJ
2nd hand
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ J♠
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB
Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) 6♦ 5♦ K♠
SB checks, BB bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, SB calls 4 BB
Turn: (21 BB, 3 players) T♥
SB checks, BB bets 7 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, SB calls 24 BB, fold
River: (76 BB, 2 players) T♣
SB checks, Hero bets 111.8 BB and is all-in
Raise on Turn ok although wont have bet as much
Like the all in on the river.
When they weakbet turn looks like weak Ten or flush draw but when they check River has draw written all over it like flush draw or JQ
youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
I presume this one is a fold but thought I should double check. Also do you think I should bet? I checked behind because I really felt he was setting a trap.
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 147.8 BB
SB: 178 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 23.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 144)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 308)
MP: 163.6 BB (VPIP: 12.42, PFR: 9.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.02, Hands: 462)
CO: 145.6 BB (VPIP: 23.93, PFR: 17.79, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 164)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:heart:
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 15 BB
Flop: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: Q:club: 3:heart:
CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: (49.4 BB, 2 players) J:club:
CO checks, Hero checks
River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, CO raises to 121.6 BB and is all-in, fold
CO wins 85.6 BB
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 147.8 BB
SB: 178 BB (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 15.12, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 88)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 23.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 144)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.33, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 308)
MP: 163.6 BB (VPIP: 12.42, PFR: 9.48, 3Bet Preflop: 4.02, Hands: 462)
CO: 145.6 BB (VPIP: 23.93, PFR: 17.79, 3Bet Preflop: 9.72, Hands: 164)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:heart:
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 15 BB
Flop: (49.4 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: Q:club: 3:heart:
CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: (49.4 BB, 2 players) J:club:
CO checks, Hero checks
River: (49.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
CO bets 1 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, CO raises to 121.6 BB and is all-in, fold
CO wins 85.6 BB
youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.93, PFR: 13.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 211)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 58)
BB: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 156 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
MP: 235.4 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.14, Hands: 431)
Hero (CO): 109.4 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:heart: 9:heart:
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J:club: 7:diamond: 6:heart:
SB bets 12.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB
Turn: (44.2 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
SB bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB
River: (86.6 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 66.6 BB and is all-in
I definitely think I should be raising the turn here.
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.93, PFR: 13.50, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 211)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.79, PFR: 23.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 58)
BB: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.50, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 41)
UTG: 156 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 127)
MP: 235.4 BB (VPIP: 24.29, PFR: 12.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.14, Hands: 431)
Hero (CO): 109.4 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:heart: 9:heart:
fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6 BB
Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) J:club: 7:diamond: 6:heart:
SB bets 12.6 BB, Hero calls 12.6 BB
Turn: (44.2 BB, 2 players) K:heart:
SB bets 21.2 BB, Hero calls 21.2 BB
River: (86.6 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 66.6 BB and is all-in
I definitely think I should be raising the turn here.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
No, I would have just bet this flop this deep. There's going to be a much wider 4-bet range in this spot with this kind of opponent. He's almost 10% 3-bet, he opens from the CO and you 3-bet from the button. He's going to try and 4-bet bluff here often enough that you might as well take down the equity on the flop. I don't think the flop check is bad, but you're likely going to face a bullet on the turn so you'll be stuck calling A high a lot in a 4-bet pot. As played, I'd just simplify and fire the turn as well. At this point you want to push him off a split. On the river I'd just raise more to reduce his bluffing range. Raise to 27~. He played it really goofy, but you're not going to stack off with tptk here on the river.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Yeah, I'd usually raise this turn. You'll get enough folds for it to be profitable. I think as played it will be hard for him to call with Jx,QQ,TT type hands. I think this is a good opponent spot to bluff. Your hand doesn't look like a draw too much because of the flop and board run out.
youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 159 BB
SB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 52)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.39, PFR: 8.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 135)
UTG: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 182.4 BB (VPIP: 61.54, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 192.6 BB (VPIP: 17.44, PFR: 11.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 87)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:heart: A:club:
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, SB calls 11 BB
Flop: (43 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 5:diamond: K:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 26 BB, SB calls 26 BB
Turn: (95 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 112 BB and is all-in
All good? Trying to blow him off high PP's here.
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 159 BB
SB: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 52)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.39, PFR: 8.66, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 135)
UTG: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: 182.4 BB (VPIP: 61.54, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
CO: 192.6 BB (VPIP: 17.44, PFR: 11.63, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 87)
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9:heart: A:club:
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero raises to 21 BB, SB calls 11 BB
Flop: (43 BB, 2 players) 9:club: 5:diamond: K:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 26 BB, SB calls 26 BB
Turn: (95 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:
SB checks, Hero bets 112 BB and is all-in
All good? Trying to blow him off high PP's here.
Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
Preflop looks standard with good sizing on the 4 bet to get away from it if he shoves. The 4 bet is fine with him already looking like an agro 3 bettor preflop.
I don't understand why anyone wants to call a 4 bet oop and give you the initiative here, he must have a hand of some value id range range him 77, 88, 99 (blocker), TT, JJ, AQ AJ and maybe at a push KQs, KJs.
with this range I wouldn't be going away to a single barrel unless its a big one, might we consider a bigger cbet on the flop with it being such a dry board?
It would to tough to call with anything less than Kx to a pot sized c bet.
As played I like the shove to the turn check, id fully expect him to fold everything but a decent king and we don't have many in his range. I'm presuming AK would have 5 bet pre.
I don't understand why anyone wants to call a 4 bet oop and give you the initiative here, he must have a hand of some value id range range him 77, 88, 99 (blocker), TT, JJ, AQ AJ and maybe at a push KQs, KJs.
with this range I wouldn't be going away to a single barrel unless its a big one, might we consider a bigger cbet on the flop with it being such a dry board?
It would to tough to call with anything less than Kx to a pot sized c bet.
As played I like the shove to the turn check, id fully expect him to fold everything but a decent king and we don't have many in his range. I'm presuming AK would have 5 bet pre.
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Figaroo2
Legend
Bronze Level
can't find the fold button
(IPoker) €4.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 07, 09:19:00 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 15q (real money) This is 6 handed
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €6.31 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 1811
Seat 3: Player3 ( €4.05 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 43
Seat 5: Player5 ( €5.13 EUR ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 22, 3B: 3, AF: 2.4, Hands: 218
Seat 6: Player6 ( €9.29 EUR ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AG% 17, Hands: 64
Seat 8: Player8 ( €3.22 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 226
Seat 10: Hero ( €5.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AG% 40, Hands: 124
Player3 posts small blind [€0.02 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.04 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 8h ]
Player6 raises [€0.16 EUR]
Player8 folds
Hero calls [€0.16 EUR] Villian is a fish I'm calling here as there is another fish player 5 in the BB behind, squeezing just doesn't happen at these tables.
Player1 folds
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 8s, 2c ]
Player6 bets [€0.26 EUR]
Hero raises [€0.81 EUR]
Player6 calls [€0.55 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ] horrid card
Player6 checks
Hero bets [€0.80 EUR]
Player6 raises [€3.08 EUR]
OK He has no agg level at all so i'm beat here,,,,I know i.m beat, i feel it all the way to my toes so why can't I fold in these spots?? Its like I just want to see it to confirm it.
(IPoker) €4.00 EUR NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 07, 09:19:00 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 15q (real money) This is 6 handed
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €6.31 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 1811
Seat 3: Player3 ( €4.05 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 5.0, Hands: 43
Seat 5: Player5 ( €5.13 EUR ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 22, 3B: 3, AF: 2.4, Hands: 218
Seat 6: Player6 ( €9.29 EUR ) - VPIP: 48, PFR: 9, 3B: 3, AG% 17, Hands: 64
Seat 8: Player8 ( €3.22 EUR ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 17, 3B: 4, AF: 1.4, Hands: 226
Seat 10: Hero ( €5.00 EUR ) - VPIP: 19, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AG% 40, Hands: 124
Player3 posts small blind [€0.02 EUR].
Player5 posts big blind [€0.04 EUR].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 8h ]
Player6 raises [€0.16 EUR]
Player8 folds
Hero calls [€0.16 EUR] Villian is a fish I'm calling here as there is another fish player 5 in the BB behind, squeezing just doesn't happen at these tables.
Player1 folds
Player3 folds
Player5 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 8s, 2c ]
Player6 bets [€0.26 EUR]
Hero raises [€0.81 EUR]
Player6 calls [€0.55 EUR]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ] horrid card
Player6 checks
Hero bets [€0.80 EUR]
Player6 raises [€3.08 EUR]
OK He has no agg level at all so i'm beat here,,,,I know i.m beat, i feel it all the way to my toes so why can't I fold in these spots?? Its like I just want to see it to confirm it.
youregoodmate
Cardschat Elite
Bronze Level
If I c-bet larger then my turn bet is irrelevant because Ill have such a small bet behind.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Whoa serious bad beat action happening.
Man, I'm still crying about not hitting one of these when bad beat jackpots were popular online and frequently hit over 500k.
John A
Poker Zion Coach
Silver Level
Hey, I need a favor guys.
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If you can post a screenshot, or just type them out for me that would be great! I want to make sure I'm covering all angles on this and make it as thorough as possible. Thanks.
I'm doing a new video series for pokerstrategy on leak buster. One of the videos I'm going to be doing is on top common critical leaks. I'd like to verify what you're seeing on your end with leak buster as far as the critical leaks, and make sure I'm addressing all of the most common for different stake levels.
If you can post a screenshot, or just type them out for me that would be great! I want to make sure I'm covering all angles on this and make it as thorough as possible. Thanks.