Folding AA on my very first hand in a tournament

[fcumred]

Well thanks you lot.

Got AA first hand on a freeroll on Bodog.

On the BB..

SB limps in. I raise 5 times the BB

He calls. Flop comes over 9 3 2

He bets the pot. I raise all in.

He calls.

Over go the cards. I have AA he is holding 8 2

Guess what comes on thw turn.. ANOTHER BLOODY 2

River is no good. I go out of a tournament first hand holding AA...

Thanks for all your advice..

It really helped

 

[wicked663]

If you are not willing to put all your chips in with AA what are you willing to go in with? AA is THE BEST starting hand in holdem. You would of been a dominating favorite. I do not like to go all in pre flop with multiple callers either but folding AA pre flop is not an option in my opion.

 

[AJRiale]

Uh yea i wouldnt have folded bc 1. u have the best hand right no matter what and 2. if u did loose u wouldnt feel bad cuz u got ur money in the middle with the best hand. Remember you cant win what u dont put in the middle

 

[MFaith]

I would also go in with A-A even with 2 or 3 callers on the first hand. It also seems that sometimes the A-A wins by having top flush in these situations.

 

[Wolfpack43ACC]

How is anyone saying this is a good lay down? Anyone who thinks this is a good lay down shouldn't be playing poker. You are the type of players that are scared of losing. Always think negative, and always think that your opponent is going to suck out on you.

AA you are ahead 99.9% of the time preflop. I mean someone else could have AA been there done that once or twice. But to justify folding AA because it is the first hand of the tournament? YOU ARE PLAYING SCARED POKER MY FRIEND!

 

[wicked663]

2008 WSOP

YOU ARE PLAYING SCARED POKER MY FRIEND!

EXACTLY

Did anyone see the final table to the $1500 NLH wsop 2008 broadcast on ESPN last night? Tran had AA and his villian (I can not remember his name) had 44. My memory is not perfect (too much kind bud when I was younger maybe) but I remember the cards that count. Flop is rainbow low card, low card, J villian checks Tran value bets villian calls, turn 10 villian checks Tran value bets villian calls. River Q villian moves all in! Tran starting talking about how the villian has no idea how lucky he is. He knows he has AK and the Q was the only card that would save him. Tran folds and the villian shows his 4s with alot of smack talk along the way.

Sorry for the holes in the play by play.

 

[lizasback]

by practice you mean donkey roll? oops i mean freerolls? LMAO

Theoretically, you should play the same regardless of the buy-in.

But in practice, it's not always true. In a $3 tourney you may well be up against say, KK, TT, and QsJs. Many players will risk it all with these hands in a low buy in tourney. Even worse.

In this case you would be a 54/45 favorite to quadruple up. A better than 50/50 chance getting 4 to 1 on your money. Gotta call.

In a higher buy-in tourney, I'd go with the old adage, "the first all-in may have aces, the second all-in probably has aces, the third all-in does have aces.

Then you're looking at a chop at best and may be able to muck it.

 

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No way I would ever fold AA in that spot. At that point you have the best hand and are getting the right odds to call. Since it was the first hand I feel it is even more of a reason to call because whatever hand they have, you have them beat and this will set you up for much better chances at getting deeper into the tournament.

 

[un-diluted]

FFS

FFS...Facial Feminization Surgery?

 

[babyreid]

call call call call call. i call AA preflop everytime. i would love that many people going all in before me when i have AA, the more the better. you might not win but you are a huge favourite.

 

[bronx3]

I dont care what anyone says, but anyone is an idiot to fold aces pre flop. It is the best possible hand, if you lose you still make the right play

 

[NewHill]

What are you waiting for?

It doesn't get any better than pocket Aces with a huge pot like that in front of you.I can understand you don't want to get knocked out in the first hand(and it could have happened),but this game is about going in with the best of it and letting the poker gods take care of the rest.The only time you let that hand go is if your about to be in the money or your going to jump several spots in cash when a couple players get knocked out.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Sounds like the ideal opening hand to me with three all-ins before you.If it goes your way you are then a HHHHUUUGGGGGEEEEEE chip leader.

Wow.. great to see the AA on first hand... but then to see 3 players allin ahead of you... bummer. In a $3 mtt I'd probably call but in a bigger buy-in I'd fold --- the AA loses it's potential for winning (as you obv. know) when there's more in the hand. Maybe I'd call if I was holding say J-Ts,... again if it was a $3 mtt (I don't play the $3mtt's for this exact reason,.. worse than freerolls).
Solid fold on your part,... gj!

 

[cAPSLOCK]

I have one thing to say...

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/pok...e-freeroll-satrs-i-placed-10946th-yay-120414/

 

[sisko]

Yes, thats true, but I am trying to learn discipline and control, and OK it was only $3, not a fortune, but the principle surely must be the same for a 10 cent game or a $10,000 one.

If I can get away from the "Oh stuff it, its only a small buy in" mentality then surely that will help me out in the future.

I wouldnt use the argument "I can always join another comp" if I was playing in the WSOP so surely I shouldnt use it online in small stakes...

even its a 10k tourney, i, you, we should call. everybody should call you still had chance more than fifty percent. had %50 risk but if you win, you get 4 times bigger than your chips

 

[fcumred]

I have one thing to say...

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/pok...e-freeroll-satrs-i-placed-10946th-yay-120414/

Thats just utterly unbelievable...

 

[dresden1]

i can understand why you folded

i can understand why you folded.I couldnt do it myself I would have called and crossed all my fingers and toes and hoped the best hand stood up.BUT AGAINST 3 RANDOM hands AA IS IS NO LONGER FAV TO WIN.I have read a discussion by chris ferguson on this topic when he went on to win a million on full tilt starting from the freerolls .HE SAID HE DID THE SAME THING WITH SO MANY GOING ALLIN ON THE FIRST HAND.He folded AA. So if mr ferguson can see the logic in folding AA maybe others can as well. like i sais I couldnt do it but i do understand your reasoning for doin so

 

[Snowman1964]

Several of you know me and will agree that I'm one of the worst poker players in the northern hemisphere but...the idea of folding A-A???
Er...what hand were you waiting for before you'd call?
If you fold A-A again in that position I suggest you find another game to play...solitaire perhaps.

 

[RazzleDazzle]

I wouldnt fold - although AA weakens against more players, your still going to have the best odds of winning the pot out of all the players - also a very important thing to consider is that if you have that many people calling all in pre flop, they all gotta have the same cards: A K Q and J's. because they were all probably dealt hands like that, the odds of them pairing, let alone getting two pair to beat you is really low

 

[robwhufc]

I have read a discussion by chris ferguson on this topic when he went on to win a million on full tilt starting from the freerolls .HE SAID HE DID THE SAME THING WITH SO MANY GOING ALLIN ON THE FIRST HAND.He folded AA. So if mr ferguson can see the logic in folding AA maybe others can as well.

Have you (or anyone else) got a link for this discussion?

 

[ZzRick]

having pocket A's and 3 people call u before the flop... i think i would've all inned What are the cahnces of them having a better hand? ITS AA

 

[herlis]

there's no way i will fold my AA just because someone goes all in and ill be even happier with that and even more happier when more players calls the all in the more the merrier.

 

[Poker Orifice]

WOW... alot of really rookie-ish answers to this one. Is this due to the new posting requirements for the freerolls now?
Although not many, there are definite situations where you'd want to be folding pre-flop with AA. And to say "The more callers the merrier"???? Seriously,.. you've got to be kidding???
I think the laydown was a good one, although a call could be good too, albeit a bit risky at the time. Hands that do well in a multi-way pot vs. AA being stuff like J-Ts,but with point being made above, alot of the outs for this hand could well possibly be out already on the table with all the 'allins', OR maybe someone wanting to gamble, knowing that their 7-8s is now looking real good (like the 3rd guy in for example). Can't say I'd ever want to be 4th allin with AA, if in fact I was needing the hand to hold up for me. AA against 3 random hands isn't doing anywhere near as good as it would be against just one or two opponents, but maybe in this case you've got a hand that might really now be giving it some trouble?
Against 3 typical hands here that would be in on this pot, AA ends up being less than a 50% favourite to win the hand. (ie. JJ, K-Qs, 7-8s).

 

[Poker Orifice]

Lots of other examples of situations where folding AA would be a given, although most wouldn't be able to play it (or not play it) that way.

 

[fcumred]

Nooo way would i ever fold Ace ace preflop. Its the best possible hand. y would u ever fold the best hand. nothing can beat u.

Oh really..

Of all the posts in this thread, this is the one that made me chuckle.

So nothing can beat AA hey ?