****Juggernaut June Poker Chat Thread******

[blankoblanco]

i think they just use the same payment processor or w/e and i guess something screwed up with it but will be fixed. something similar happened a year or so ago with big check issues for both sites at the same time. should be fine in the long run

 

[Jurn8]

Everest poker is just LOL!!

Crap software, horrible players 25nl is like 5nl and thats not an exaggeration only problem is that I dont think it will improve me as a poker player. Also only winning at 3.10BB but still early days hey!

 

[Deltafrost]

I think i might play poker for the first time since the 1st

 

[zachvac]

Looking for a little help...

PokerStars Game #29008917326: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/06/05 2:36:34 ET
Table 'Orestes III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SupaFupa ($27.45 in chips)
Seat 2: hb2c ($4.65 in chips)
Seat 3: troyer16 ($26.55 in chips)
Seat 4: koecky777 ($7.50 in chips)
Seat 5: DubbleStuff ($25.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Alliinwith22 ($5 in chips)
Seat 7: Macros909 ($9.60 in chips)
Seat 8: docholiddA ($26.25 in chips)
Seat 9: OTTO HEART ($19.40 in chips)
koecky777: posts small blind $0.10
DubbleStuff: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to troyer16 [Ts Tc]
Alliinwith22: folds
Alliinwith22 leaves the table
Macros909: folds
docholiddA: folds
OTTO HEART: raises $0.25 to $0.50
SupaFupa: folds
hb2c: folds
troyer16: raises $1 to $1.50
koecky777: folds
DubbleStuff: folds
OTTO HEART: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [5s 4d 7s]
OTTO HEART: bets $0.25
troyer16: raises $3 to $3.25
OTTO HEART: raises $4.25 to $7.50
troyer16: folds
Uncalled bet ($4.25) returned to OTTO HEART
OTTO HEART collected $9.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.85 | Rake $0.45
Board [5s 4d 7s]
Seat 1: SupaFupa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hb2c folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: troyer16 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: koecky777 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: DubbleStuff (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Alliinwith22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Macros909 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: docholiddA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: OTTO HEART collected ($9.40)


Too nitty of a fold? The min raise preflop and re-raise on the flop just screamed set to me. Any thoughts? No significant read on villian. 78/9 over 9 hands

I play same way, pretty sure it's AA more than sets though just because of the minraise preflop too. And a 78/9 is never folding AA and you're not getting odds to set mine the turn so yeah I like the fold.

 

[beardyian]

Everest poker is just LOL!!

I concur

 

[vanquish]

I play same way, pretty sure it's AA more than sets though just because of the minraise preflop too. And a 78/9 is never folding AA and you're not getting odds to set mine the turn so yeah I like the fold.

u don't think flop raise should be to like $2 if you're folding to a 3bet?

 

[The Shrog]

Is the Sims 3 as great as everyone is making it out to be? Should I get it?

 

[vanquish]

Is the Sims 3 as great as everyone is making it out to be? Should I get it?

no just play poker

 

[jewboy07]

Is the Sims 3 as great as everyone is making it out to be? Should I get it?

i never saw the point of this, i mean it simulates life right?

id rather go out and live it then "simulate" it

 

[Deltafrost]

no just play poker

this

 

[icemonkey9]

Agreed RE: Sims 3 ... i think the best use is what its being used for here at CC actually lol.

 

[zachvac]

u don't think flop raise should be to like $2 if you're folding to a 3bet?

Yeah actually probably right, I may even do it $2.50.


Anyway, can people tell me if you think I misplayed any of these? Read was guy was a pretty big maniac and seemed to just randomly shove when he felt like it:

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 9

3

BTN raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN raises to $27, Hero raises to $81, BTN raises to $100 and is all-in, Hero calls $19 and is all-in

Flop: ($200) K

7

8

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($200) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed 7

6

(a pair of Sevens) and won $199.50 ($99.50 net)
Hero showed 9

3

(high card Ace) and lost (-$100 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 3

7

Hero raises to $100 and is all-in, BB calls $99 and is all-in

Flop: ($200) 4

8

J

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($200) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200) K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed 3

7

(high card King) and lost (-$100 net)
BB showed A

2

(high card Ace) and won $199.50 ($99.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $199.50 (199.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 6

J

BTN raises to $199.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $99 and is all-in

Flop: ($200) 7

3

A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($200) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed 4

2

(a pair of Fours) and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed 6

J

(a pair of Sixes) and won $199.50 ($99.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $99.50 (99.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $199.50 (199.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 5

4

Hero raises to $199.50 and is all-in, BB calls $98.50 and is all-in

Flop: ($199) T

5

K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($199) 6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($199) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $199 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed 5

4

(a pair of Fives) and won $198.50 ($99 net)
BB showed 3

J

(high card King) and lost (-$99.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $60 (60 bb)
Hero (BTN): $298.50 (298.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q

8

Hero raises to $298.50 and is all-in, BB calls $59 and is all-in

Flop: ($120) 6

4

2

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($120) K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($120) J

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $120 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed Q

8

(high card King) and lost (-$60 net)
BB showed Q

J

(a pair of Jacks) and won $119.50 ($59.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $119.50 (119.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $238.50 (238.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with J

T

BTN raises to $119.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $118.50

Flop: ($239) 9

3

K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($239) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($239) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $239 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed Q

J

(a pair of Kings) and won $238.50 ($119 net)
Hero showed J

T

(a pair of Kings) and lost (-$119.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $238.50 (238.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $119 (119 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q

T

Hero raises to $119 and is all-in, BB calls $118

Flop: ($238) 5

2

A

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($238) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($238) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $238 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed Q

T

(high card Ace) and lost (-$119 net)
BB showed 3

A

(a pair of Aces) and won $237.50 ($118.50 net)

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $357 (357 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 5

A

BTN raises to $357 and is all-in, Hero calls $99 and is all-in

Flop: ($200) 3

Q

K

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($200) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($200) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $200 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed 9

2

(high card King) and lost (-$100 net)
Hero showed 5

A

(high card Ace) and won $199.50 ($99.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $257 (257 bb)
Hero (BTN): $199.50 (199.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K

J

Hero raises to $199.50 and is all-in, BB calls $198.50

Flop: ($399) 4

J

3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($399) A

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($399) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $399 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed K

J

(a pair of Jacks) and won $398.50 ($199 net)
BB showed T

9

(high card Ace) and lost (-$199.50 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $57.50 (57.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $398.50 (398.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with T

9

BTN raises to $57.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $56.50

Flop: ($115) T

K

J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($115) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($115) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $115 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed 9

6

(a pair of Tens) and lost (-$57.50 net)
Hero showed T

9

(three of a kind, Tens) and won $114.50 ($57 net)


Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BTN: $86.45 (86.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $455.50 (455.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 2

7

BTN raises to $86.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $85.45

Flop: ($172.90) Q

A

2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($172.90) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($172.90) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $172.90 pot ($0.50 rake)
BTN showed 3

8

(high card Ace) and lost (-$86.45 net)
Hero showed 2

7

(a pair of Twos) and won $172.40 ($85.95 net)

 

[Monoxide]

lol wow

 

[Jurn8]

wtf zach ?

 

[WVHillbilly]

^^^ Standard.

 

[eNTy]

level ?
those just look like flips

why would u open shove with 54os for example ?

In other news: you caww its gowwna be all over baby

 

[vanquish]

3bet bigger

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Zach, I thought you only did this at PLO at the end of the month to make gigantic amounts of fpps.

 

[zachvac]

lol normally did but guy sat with me at FR table and asked to flip apparently he just got rakeback payment and wanted to get it to 500 or nothing. Initially I said no but then was like meh wtf let's do it. Ended up +150ish out of the whole thing lol.

 

[Infamous1020]

lol normally did but guy sat with me at FR table and asked to flip apparently he just got rakeback payment and wanted to get it to 500 or nothing. Initially I said no but then was like meh wtf let's do it. Ended up +150ish out of the whole thing lol.

that guy was hilarious. afterwards he was like 'hey how about you send me 100, and if i win the flip, ill send 100 back' lol

def plus to the ev

 

[Suited Frenzy]

Zack, your very last hand that you posted was the greatest ever :rofl: Callin' a shove w/ the worst hand in poker & felting him w/ bottom pair. Awesome, just fkn awesome! HaHa :rofl:

 

[vanquish]

first session of the day out of the way, damn am i sleepy. i fell asleep while watching the french open but managed to wake up for the 5th set which was vvvvv exciting.

sigh i kinda hate playing 3 sessions a day, but hopefully i can clear ~90k hands this month and then i can relax in june

 

[The Shrog]

Maybe I should move out of the U.S. where all the cool people are

 

[cAPSLOCK]

Zack, your very last hand that you posted was the greatest ever :rofl: Callin' a shove w/ the worst hand in poker & felting him w/ bottom pair. Awesome, just fkn awesome! HaHa :rofl:

Just picking a little bitty nit... but I think 72o actually has more equity than several little hands like 23o-26o against any two cards when heads up.

But yeah.. nothing else is 7-2 offsuit.

 

[eNTy]

Just had first coaching sesh and it went pretty well
we did it typing over skype as he had a mad cough lol

played 4 tables and just sorta sweated
talked a bit about my 3betting range blinds vs BTN or BTN vs CO, and to what it should be, which is split up in 3 parts:
nut hands,
medium strength hands like KJ/mid pps, etc
and air hands like 33/22/scs

he said that we should be polarized vs a tight caller to nut and air hands, because we have lots of suckout equity with the bottom part and vs a wide caller we should be 3betting with nut and medium strength hands.

Would've been a profitable session too if I didn't auto check this river and potted it liked he said i should do:

Hero (SB): $56.70 (113.4 bb)
BB: $18.20 (36.4 bb)
UTG+1: $51.90 (103.8 bb)
MP1: $52.95 (105.9 bb)
MP2: $10.75 (21.5 bb)
MP3: $13.50 (27 bb)
CO: $59.60 (119.2 bb)
BTN: $6.75 (13.5 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J:club: J:heart:
4 folds, CO raises to $2, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.75, BB folds
Flop: ($4.50) 9:diamond: 5:diamond: 7:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero calls $3
Turn: ($10.50) 8:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $7, Hero calls $7
River: ($24.50) T:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Results: $24.50 pot ($1.20 rake)
Hero showed J:club: J:heart: (a straight, Seven to Jack) and won $23.30 ($11.30 net)
CO mucked 8:diamond: 8:heart: (three of a kind, Eights) and lost (-$12 net)

And if I didn't totally spewed this hand vs the mega passive fish
I was too fast again as he said I should've checked back turn and as played definitely river, this was total spew, which is something im good at unfortunately:

MP3: $47.30 (94.6 bb)
CO: $82.20 (164.4 bb)
BTN: $50 (100 bb)
SB: $50 (100 bb)
BB: $70.45 (140.9 bb)
UTG: $52 (104 bb)
UTG+1: $49.25 (98.5 bb)
Hero (MP1): $57.50 (115 bb)
MP2: $56.65 (113.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with J:heart: J:diamond:
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50, MP3 calls $2.50, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls $2

Flop: ($10.75) Q:spade: Q:diamond: 9:heart: (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6.50, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, UTG+1 calls $6.50

Turn: ($23.75) 9:club: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $15, UTG+1 calls $15

River: ($53.75) 4:club: (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $26.75, UTG+1 calls $25.25 and is all-in

Results: $104.25 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed J:heart: J:diamond: (two pairs, Queens and Jacks) and lost (-$49.25 net)
UTG+1 showed A:club: A:spade: (two pairs, Aces and Queens) and won $101.25 ($52 net)

And a turned set of queens vs the same fish that obviously made a 4 card flush on river which i was fortunately able to fold. Overall break even session so not too bad. Got a whole skype convo to review and a lot of work to do on my game .