Should Slow Rolls Be Penalized?

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It may be in weird but i feel like slowrolling live is way worse than doing it online .I think it's acceptable as fun between friends if you know the pot at that stake doesn't hurt anybody.But doing it in a crucial spot in a tourney or a cash game is bad etiquette. Should maintain the atmosphere at the table light and fun and don't hold or create grudges ;) .
 
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Slow rolling is the style of play of some, there are players who like to think for a long time and listen to their intuition before making a decision.
 
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  • #153
pribalt49 said:
Slow rolling is the style of play of some, there are players who like to think for a long time and listen to their intuition before making a decision.


You are speaking of 2 things that have nothing to do with each other. A slow roll has nothing to do with decision-making or intuition. A slow roll involves a hand that is 100% already ahead, and the losing hand is already been turned over, so since the winning hand is clear to the winner, no real decision here at all... except how quick you turn your winning cards over.
 
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  • #154
I slow roll 2 hand s itm final table and loose with 3 of kind, so for me agresion is moore benefit then slow.
 
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In poker, all types of games are allowed, if it brings good luck, there can be nothing illegal here, only bots can be recognized as illegal.
 
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  • #156
Slow Rolling, Yes! Definition--
A slow roll occurs at showdown when a player with an extremely strong hand, often the nuts, faces river bet and then delays calling or turning over his cards. This is usually done to give an opponent false hope that he holds the winning hand. Slow rolling is a serious breach of poker etiquette.

Another Definition--slow roll when holding the nuts, a player fails to raise an opposing player so that player loses fewer chips and remains in the game usually an accomplice trying to dupe the other players at the table. also referred to as "collusion"
Slow Playing, No! We all have a time bank so that we have a set time to think about our next action, Call, Fold, or Raise, when playing on-line.
In a live game it can be anything from 5 mins to ???? it is usually down to the players in the hand to decide what is a fair amount of time, but any player at the table is allowed to call the "Clock" on another player because the blinds are constantly going up and that effects their chip-stack.
Only the Dealer at the table is not allowed to influence the game in any way and is not allowed to call the Clock, He must call the floor manager to the table to have him call the clock.
In all the years of playing Poker I have never had the clock called on me, and I have only had to do it once on another player who was taking too long to make up his mind when I was holding a Full-House and raised his river bet, and the other players were getting a little impatient. He had his hand folded by the Floor Manager.

When the fun Stops, STOP!
 
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  • #157
I don't see anything wrong with slowrolling. To each his own playing style.
 
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  • #158
Baldy86 said:
what do you think ? what would be a good penalty for them ?
I don't know what a penalty would look like.
Some people are just rude and/or tying to get in your head.
I don't often stoop to someone's level but you might find yourself in a situation where you can get some payback.
 
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  • #159
Baldy86 said:
do you know what a slowroll is ?


I know. Nevertheless, I believe that everyone has the right to play as they wish, within the generally accepted rules.
 
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DaaBee said:
I have the same issue. We play many tables and others think we are wasting time.
Were not.
It takes only a few seconds to find the right tables if your not in a hand, no problem.
However if your on the bubble at another table, you may miss action on a less valuable tables.


Absolutely agree. Obviously, people who play at only one table cannot imagine that others play at three or four tables at the same time.
 
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  • #161
no not really.
 
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  • #162
If you don't like it, throw an egg at him on 888.
 
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That’s exactly what throwables are for
Chuck some stuff at them, forget about it, move on, play the next hand:D:p
 
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I agree with those who have written that everyone manages their time the way they want. Regardless, I would punish those who have fun by waiting for the last second in each round and then stepping. No matter what they do, they ALWAYS do it. I think that completely ruins the game.
 
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  • #165
Ive used it and had players use it against me. Its part of the game if it irritates you then mission accomplished
 
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  • #166
I haven't read all the replies but it would be impossible to ascertain whether it was a slowroll online or not, even if they had the nuts.

As Martin mentioned, there could be numerous reasons delaying the call online, from DC's, multi-tabling, afk or whatever..

Live is different of course but true slowrolling is rare in my experience, nitrolling is much more common.. :)
 
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  • #167
Baldy86 said:
what do you think ? what would be a good penalty for them ?

what penalty? for what crime? its not against the rules. ettiquette too.
what if you play somewehre with a bad connection? should you be penalized too?
what if you keep raising to intimidate, is it unethical? should it be penalized?

ethics. so subjective. either there are rules or not.
 
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Slow roll is an unethical play among serious players. But it is not illegal.
In any case, slow roll is considered when the player takes more time than normally used to call.
If it takes 5 seconds that is not slow roll. At least in PS it is easier to detect such a case, because the exact % of internet connection that the player has is known.
And if the player plays at several tables at the same time, it is assumed that he knows how to do it and therefore he will know how to focus on the most important tables, like the one where he got the nuts.
Greetings.
 
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  • #169
dgroes said:
what penalty? for what crime? its not against the rules. ettiquette too.
what if you play somewehre with a bad connection? should you be penalized too?
what if you keep raising to intimidate, is it unethical? should it be penalized?

ethics. so subjective. either there are rules or not.


bad connection is bad connection that happens rarely

and i was actually talking more about real life poker (but online too)

it is horrible poker etiquette to slowroll someone . they deserve a punch in their face in my opinion
 
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  • #170
Evidently there is nothing to complain about, since all times are equal to play. However, in fact it is very annoying to watch players holding the game at all times. We have to relax and respect. Just this!
 
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  • #171
:cool: I don't think it's not necessary, we can't think about the bad all the time, it's the diversity of the game, that's all ...
 
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  • #172
nah.. if youre trying to read hands based on how much time theyre taking during their turn youre doing it wrong
 
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why would you penalize a slow roller this is poker everyone is after your money. If you want to slow roll okay, but generally what goes around, comes around and you might not like it when you are on the receiving end of it.
 
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  • #174
I wouldn't change the rules. Slowrolling doesn't give you any sort of advantage.
 
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  • #175
Unwritten rules should sometimes remained unwritten.

Shunning is encouraged.
 
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