Played with AA incorrectly and paid the price!

[marieemce]

My opinion he should raise to 120 then probabbly 9/6 would Gold and just the limper would pay. Thats the happy end
But he though mini raise was good enough in a horrible position. Yes, I think he played terrible with this AAs

 

[Lieutenant_OH7]

My goodness...

You don't bet with aces to scare away speculative hands. You bet with aces to get VALUE from speculative hands. Aces ARE going to get cracked from time to time, and in the meantime, you should try to extract value from those hands, betting to make worse hands call.

UNIVERSAL RULE OF POKER - THERE'S THREE REASONS TO BET - ONLY THREE
1) To make worse hands call (VALUE BET)
2) To make better hands fold (BLUFF)
3) To deny equity of hands with potential to improve (PROTECTION)

Aces pre flop is the nuts. There's no better hands. It's the ultimate value holding pre flop. You SHOULD be betting to make worse hands call.

So pre-flop:
1) Limping is a bad option, since you're not getting the value you want from worse hands;
2) Min raising is a bad option, since you're not getting enough value from worse hands, UNLESS it's your standard raising strategy;
3) Overbetting/overraising is a bad option, since you're turning your hand faceup and telling: "hey everybody, I have aces, let me take the blinds and antes pls"

Best pre-flop strategy for aces is to follow your standard strategy pre flop raise sizings.

And YES, it's very difficult to get three streets of value with unimproved aces post flop unless you're playing a total fish willing to go to rivers with top pair or worse hands. Even those top pair type of hands are much more likely to improve by the river than aces.

I just don't see any news in the assumption: "You should always play cautiously with just one pair post flop".

Indeed, I usually raise aces no higher than I would raise KJ for example... Otherwise you mostly scare away most opponents and win almost nothing... If someone else raises you I feel like doubling the bet is mostly the best option (depends on how loose or tight the players are).

And on the flop I always bet big, mostly pot-sized bet... It's still just a pair and your opponents hand can easily improve on the turn. Except if you hit a set, then you can more slowplay...

 

[Anderson0001]

Exactly!! The villain was clueless to reading the bored and thinking of the 20+ hands that beat his AA on the flop and should have tried to play the pot as cheaply as possible.

The hero in this hand might have been a little over zealous of his straight and didnt think of the hands that could beat him. Hopefully we can all see a pattern here....

Here are a few definitions to learn from the video.

ATM or Calling Station- someone like the villain in this hand. Willing to call bets even when the odds are against them. An ATM is usually the player you want to earn your chips from

Pot odds - a player's incentive to call a bet. The hero might the correct play calling the 2xbet from the villain because the pot was big enough to make the possibility of catching some luck worth the investment.

The Nuts- if the hand would have ended with the preflop the villain would of had the Nuts, the 100% sure winner. Post flop neither hero nor villain had the nuts because quite a few hands could beat both of their hands with 2 more cards to come... and with more cards to come arrives implied pot odds.

Implied Pot Odds- the 3rd player whose hand we didnt get to see might have stuck in the hand after the flop bets because had the turn card been a card to give him the Nuts, he could count on another round of bets followed by even more bets on the River.

I raise x4 + player who sees the raise, to defend my pair of AA.
The 3 cards of the flop, is another story.., my pair of aces may lose power, the power of play its pair is in the preflop.
I do not slowplay in preflop with AA, Raise preflop by value and to defend my good pair.

I would definitely say that it should be completely opposite that this. Actually wait, i have a question, is that the betting pattern for monster hands or your default oppening for every hand? Either way its wrong, having bets sized by the strength of your hand is easiest possible tell to pick on, if this is your default opening sizings regardles the hand then i say, open 3bb from every position but BTN where you can min raise. I open 3bb from EP MP CO and SB and open 2bb from BTN, i 3bet 8bb IP and 9bb OOP

Off course, go all-in preflop

My opinion he should raise to 120 then probabbly 9/6 would Gold and just the limper would pay. Thats the happy end
But he though mini raise was good enough in a horrible position. Yes, I think he played terrible with this AAs

Very good answers.Playing AA pre-flop is easy (just be aggressive or go allin in case there are reactions). Hard to even play AA post-flop. Know if you are ahead. And the most important thing is to know how to run. Many players embrace AA like in the video and ignore a sequence that is in the face!

Do as the young man, be disappointed with such failures an flop and check-fold 90% of the time.

 

[rock0001]

maybe you should have made a bigger preflop raise with aces however bb was also very lucky to hit a straight on the flop. the problem with raising 4 or more bb with aces on early position is that most players are going to fold the hand and you wont get value of your hand. also if villain on bb had a hand like kj and the flop comes k23 then you can get lot of value on your hand if no king or jack comes on turn and river.

 

[PokerNuts01]

best way to play AA in my opinion is to open if no one did or 3bet if any1 already opened. Gl

Agree 100% m8!!

 

[Uzbek]

AA vs 96

I think both player play with risk. Another player can catched a flush. 96 on the flop go all in. IMHO

Watch this hand and see a common mistake to play with AA.

FIRST the player gave mini raise to try to attract players to the game instead of betting. But his raise should have been between 3 and 5x to scare away speculative hands. With this he attracted a player with a marginal hand and it was bad!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRuZZR4ki4c

 

[earthling11]

My best advice with AA

What i have learned with AA....... going all in preflop is the best way to play them!!!! or intsa push after the flop!!! one or the other!

 

[Anderson0001]

What i have learned with AA....... going all in preflop is the best way to play them!!!! or intsa push after the flop!!! one or the other!

it is true! Facing a post-flop game with AA can be bought!

 

[sekcapilniqt]

gooooo all-in

 

[Bagdalac4ever]

It happens to me as well. I had AA and I just called. My opponent got two pairs in flop and he beat me in all in. AA are strong cards, but not invincible.

 

[leshausa03]

All played correctly. First lured another into a trap with a strong hand. The second didn't expect to see street..

 

[Roockie4Life]

I don't like your play on the river tbh. why would you check-call there? check-calling is done to controle the potsize. If you are scared of a better straight (which was a real possibility in this case with J9s) you shouldn't call a shove. If you ain't scared of it, you just continue to bet. Make it big enough so you don't get 3bet and if you get 3-bet you should fold (if you are playing vs descent players).

I agree that the preflop raise with the AA was too small (would have liked a 2.5-2.7X raise more than a minraise) but besides his riverjam, I think he played his hand pretty descently. The riverjam was bad because he's never going to get called by a weaker hand.

it is true! Facing a post-flop game with AA can be bought!

I don't think you should always preflop jam AA. When you have 25+BB, there is no reason to jam it in. You will lose alot of value from a very strong hand

 

[Senneville]

You should never limp a monster hand anyway. Raise and reraise dont limp this kind of hand. You dont want to be called with 4-3 off or AS with a badass kicker. You want to double up your stack and moved forward.if not quick poker right now lolll .

 

[Martin Carreira]

I think that many players are afraid to have AA and face a bad bet or that in other cases they feel that they will have the winning hand just for being a pair of AA and that is why they play it in a not so aggressive way and In poker anything can happen haha. The best would be to raise X3 X5 as a decis and limit the game to players with strong hands and avoid these.

 

[mitozgd1]

Go all in and pray only 1 guy calls. It works well for me.

 

[BrianM]

pocket Aces are always tricky for me... ended up with everyone bowing out early or getting a bad beat on the flop

 

[vadimknyshov]

I often observe this, especially on the stars

 

[diadiavalik]

Very often, and I had situations where, after the hand, I realized that I made a mistake on the flop, or I made the wrong bet and also attracted another player and lost with AA

 

[bigjay2007]

I have played AA many different ways, minimum raise, big raise, slow play, you name it. I feel you should always play aggressive, but many times I everyone folds or I'm a victim of the dreaded bad beat. That being said, i will still want AA every time i look at my cards