Americas cardroom is the worst

[perrywh]

Cant complain they just refunded me 0.01 for playing against a bot. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[AlbieTross]

so Intertops is better than ACR?

The traffic at Intertops is just too low for my taste and the quality of the site in general just doesn't live up to ACR's standards. ACR is just slightly more competitive so it seems as if you lose more, I guess?

 

[gardin555]

Cant complain they just refunded me 0.01 for playing against a bot. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThatS happened to me two days ago too, they return to me some cents for had been played against a bot. I saw a lot of very incredible hand there, that seems played for a bot at several times.
But i never had problem with ACR site, I did some withdraws and it was all ok and fast.

 

[Zorba]

Americas cardroom is the worst poker site .

Then don't play there.

:bandit:

How do I lose 12 hands with AA and only win with them 4 times? I kept track of how awful the beats got.

Probably because you called when you should have folded.

:bandit:

 

[finaltable1]

Standard procedure of a room you want safety of the players.

Made 2 cashouts via Bitcoin and have never deposited anything at ACR, they haven't asked for any documents.

But indeed ACR is quite rigged when it comes to all-ins. Recently played in $5 buy-in MTT, one fish did 3+ re-entries, goes pre-flop all-in 40bb stack with J6, some player have called with JJ and J6 wins with a flush, 6 worked. The next hand I get KK, bet 4bb, fish calls, flop comes 3 7 10 rainbow, I bet 3/4 pot, fish goes all-in, I call, he has Q8os, turn card is 8, river card is another 8.

Been trying to climb up in the Venom, always lose to sick bad beats against donks who perform pre-flop all-ins with trash hands. TWICE HAS LOST WITH AA against A2s and A7s in $50 and $200 qualifiers, and not versus flush, opponent his set-straight with his second card, and WTH is this? Important hand, absolute domination, opponent has like 2-3% chance to win and he wins. WHY? Because he pushed all-in first? or what?

 

[finaltable1]

so Intertops is better than ACR?

I have never played at Intertops.
PokerStars, PartyPoker, iPoker network are the top 3 and the best by interface, customer support and how fair the cards are dealt.
As for the american poker sites - SB and BoL are good, don't know much about Bovada, Intertops and others, cause never played there.

It's normal in real life poker that a pair or 2 pairs or high card often wins the pot, I see it at the 3 mentioned above sites, while at ACR it's normal that you hit a set or full house every 3 times you're dealt a pair, straights and flushes are at 50% of boards. Pushing all-in pre-flop with trash hand gives you advantage over opponents pocket monster pair. I've won a 3.3 500grtd tournament at ACR playing like complete fish, another time won 4th place in 5.5 1.5K grtd by playing like a total donk. Push all-in with A7os and beat AK or QQ, a simple formula for ACR MTTs and satellites. Monster pocket pair vs opponent who performs a pre-flop all-in and you're out.

 

[John_3_16]

IMHO the RNG is NOT even close to random. I truly believe, as a program, it can be & is manipulated to give the improbable results ALL of the players experience & witness.

I limit my participation on ACR to freerolls only. Too many indicators of manipulation of the games, players & the card sequences. No trust.

The ACR Rep admitted the games are shared with "partners" whose info is blanked from regular players on WPN. The partners are not WPN members. I don't know if they are shills, super users or ACR employees winning the top prizes for ACR. That is the problem. We don't know & ACR is not telling.

You are the only person who can decide to protect yourself or deposit your hard earned cash down a rabbit hole.



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Originally Posted by tomk7788
I've noticed when I click on some player's profiles there isn't a city or country listed for the player. Probably not a problem but I've wondered if they are legit if they registered without listing their location.



This happens because, we share our tournaments and cash games with Partners. (The ones who don't belong to the Winning Poker Network) So that's why you are not able to see their information.
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[Djangofreeman]

I can't say nothing, cause don't played yet in this site. But people here are telling bad things about that. Maybe I will pass.

 

[Poker Orifice]

ThatS happened to me two days ago too, they return to me some cents for had been played against a bot. I saw a lot of very incredible hand there, that seems played for a bot at several times.
.

Is that what you think indicated a 'BOT'? Because the hand seemed incredible??
Firstly, this isn't any indication of a BOT at all. (it sounds as if you're insinuating 'super-user' when commentinig about incredulous hands... or just a simple case of selective memory)

With ACR refunding you a couple cents, did you ever even consider that perhaps you were BEATING the BOTS you were on tables with... but at times they were also beating you... and it almost completely balanced out (hence only getting a couple of cents returned)

 

[Poker Orifice]

My experience with America's Cardroom was awful. I didn't see a point in creating a new thread, but I wanted to let other players know to not trust those paid for sites that offer "legit gambling reviews" and then bolstered the reputation of cardrooms that are paying them to do so.

Americas Cardroom is one of those rooms. They do not live up to their hype, not even close. First, their site has already had to issue refunds for bots being in use and cheating being openly exposed. ACR leadership tried ignoring and hiding it at first, but eventually, they started to issue the refunds.

Bad beats happen in poker. They don't happen though nearly as often anywhere else than on ACR, which prompted me to believe they have bots in use to help them reclaim funds for their exceedingly large guarantees. It got to the point that I expected to lose when I had the best hand. I just sat 12 hours at the Parxx Big Staxx tourney. In 12 hours of live play, I saw the same amount of bad beats that I see occur on ACR in under 1 hour. Unreal how often you will get sucked out on.

Customer service- horrible. They openly brag about not caring about your opinion, they don't take constructive feedback well at all, and good luck getting in in touch with a supervisor- you'll have a better chance of your AA not getting cracked by AK, AQ, QQ, JJ, 99, 10-7 offsuit, 10-4 suited, KK, 22, 33, 22 again, and J5 suited...lol Like what the ****? How do I lose 12 hands with AA and only win with them 4 times? I kept track of how awful the beats got.

Anyway, if you are reading this Americas Cardroom, I will NEVER give you a single penny again. Your company is inferior to the likes of Bovada. They at least employ their own customer service team, don't off fake shady matching deals where you have to play for hundreds of hours to even get your matching deposit bonus (yeah, they ****ing fail to mention this BS and instead bury it in the very, very small and fine print. Not surprising given how shady they are) and I cannot wait to see capitalism swallow your inferior site whole someday. Thankfully in the age of the USA legalizing online poker, that day is rapidly approaching. I'll make sure my Congressional office looks into your company personally, just to be another thorn in your side as you bleed out.and become marginalized.

Spoken like a true DONK!

 

[Poker Orifice]

But indeed ACR is quite rigged when it comes to all-ins.

LOL
Only other complete Fish will even remotely buy into your b.s.
You are a joke

 

[ReoRekop]

the algorithm of the deck is very rare and bad

 

[sparky112]

americarsroom

how many got refunds from ACR when they found out somebody was running bit's on them??
They were smart enough to write Bot programs but did not us a proxy jumper and got caught.
I got a lousy 67 cent re-imbursement
sparky112
from Texas home of "Ole Sparky" 112 satisfied customer LMAO
the electric chair used in The Green Mile

 

[Dr_Coinpurse]

America’s Cardroom (Honest Review)

As a poker player who can’t get enough (as I’m sure many of us are) I lied to myself for too long about ACR. I have been playing on here for a year now, constantly trying to delude myself about how it’s actually a good site because this is basically last resort/ as good as it gets for all of us US players who have such restricted options to choose from. Today’s date is 5/26/19. On the night of Friday 5/24/19, I played a tournament on ACR. I actually won the tournament. It was one of their On Demand tournaments. It has now been a full 45 hours later and there has been no addition of money to my account. I won and never got paid for it!! I have been all over twitter trying to contact them for 2 days straight. No help whatsoever. I was in a live chat with their “support team” for an hour earlier today (which I highly speculate is bot operated as well. A lot of things sent to me in that chat were repeat, exactly down to the spacing and punctuation in the messages). No help whatsoever. I tried calling them earlier today to actually talk to someone (5/26/19). Was on hold for half an hour before I said **** it and hung up the phone. No help whatsoever. I still am yet to receive any money I won after 2 days and all over Twitter are COUNTLESS people with the same stories (ranging from losing $109 buy-ins right down to micro stakes play). Meanwhile, they’re CEO is casually posting on Twitter about how his day has been going and doesn’t attend to any of the madness going on on his site.

I have heard stories about this when I was just starting this year long journey but was not affected personally yet. Grinding away freerolls and worked up a hefty 3 figure bankroll from absolutely nothing. All was going well so by nature, I turned a blind eye to all the nonsense I was hearing about this site. 1 Year later, I finally understand.

I will continue to avoid playing on America’s Cardroom until the funds get put in my account and even then, I will only be returning out of desperation as a US player with minimal options.

In my eyes, the solution is beyond simple. Everybody avoid playing on ACR, they don’t get business, they change. I know I will be playing my part in this as much as one human can but that’s all I can do. What works is when multiple humans work together and that IS the answer.

I understand that being a US poker player leaves you no good options, no mediocre options, and a few horrible ones. Do yourself and the entire poker community a favor that will have great affect for years to come. Stop playing on ACR.

 

[acemenow]

I understand the frustration here but regarding complaints made since the upgrade, I am curious ...

1 - ACR spent the past month advertising the fact they were doing a major upgrade. I, like all of us, have seen in industry after industry screw ups, honest mistakes and ignorance of certain facts, derail many projects let alone businesses.

2 - During anything new, whether its a samsung phone that happens to spontaneously burst into flames or a software update from windows that gives your computer a blue screen of death.

Why? Especially when you know you are in a period of transition ... would you deposit money or play anything other than freerolls on the site? I am just curious.

3. I have logged in pretty much each day. Check if private tourneys are available or attempt a freeroll registration. If it works great, if not, I log out.

This not only sucks for us, but I have to believe it sucks for ACR too. Because whatever the reason for the disruption, the last thing ACR wants is people not happy playing on their site. Too much money is at stake!

But they also know, regardless of how smooth it goes there will be issues and some will complain whether legitimately or not. They took the leap for a much improved experience, at least that is how it is advertised. Once ironed out, they will be back in business, and i would expect them to resolve any legitimate issues with bank roll and tourney tickets. If they are unable to resolve the issues (which I doubt), then that is a different conversation at that time.

As anyone alive knows; Regardless of how much fore thought you put into a project, the possibility of something bad happening is always a potential issue.

Whether beyond your control due to your own naive perspective or simply beyond anyone's power to avoid; as the adage goes ... "shite happens".

 

[Mortis71]

Dang.... why dont you's wait until the "fix" is really fixed, I am
there are more sites to play at.

 

[tazzmaster62]

ive never come accross no issues withy ACR yet
my experience with them since i started playing has been great.
i know they have issues like this all the poker sites do.

it happens just be glad its not the goverment your fighting to get funds off of
it could take 4 months to get your money.

 

[XYZ2123]

People can have different feelings and opinions about the situation at WPN (ACR) but the undeniable facts are: we were told the "upgrade" would take 10 hours and we are now at 8 days and counting; there's never been an issue with cash games (which is where the site make most of its profit from rake) but the rest of the client is completely empty.

 

[Datdude1]

I don't like playing on ACR. Every time I logged onto the site it seemed as if the site was lagging and the randomness of the card selection wasn't so random.

 

[an9312]

the reboot has been rough with acr. havent had any tournaments

 

[abwil2]

Very well said. Yes its frustrating but obviously something unexpected has gone wrong

I understand the frustration here but regarding complaints made since the upgrade, I am curious ...

1 - ACR spent the past month advertising the fact they were doing a major upgrade. I, like all of us, have seen in industry after industry screw ups, honest mistakes and ignorance of certain facts, derail many projects let alone businesses.

2 - During anything new, whether its a samsung phone that happens to spontaneously burst into flames or a software update from windows that gives your computer a blue screen of death.

Why? Especially when you know you are in a period of transition ... would you deposit money or play anything other than freerolls on the site? I am just curious.

3. I have logged in pretty much each day. Check if private tourneys are available or attempt a freeroll registration. If it works great, if not, I log out.

This not only sucks for us, but I have to believe it sucks for ACR too. Because whatever the reason for the disruption, the last thing ACR wants is people not happy playing on their site. Too much money is at stake!

But they also know, regardless of how smooth it goes there will be issues and some will complain whether legitimately or not. They took the leap for a much improved experience, at least that is how it is advertised. Once ironed out, they will be back in business, and i would expect them to resolve any legitimate issues with bank roll and tourney tickets. If they are unable to resolve the issues (which I doubt), then that is a different conversation at that time.

As anyone alive knows; Regardless of how much fore thought you put into a project, the possibility of something bad happening is always a potential issue.

Whether beyond your control due to your own naive perspective or simply beyond anyone's power to avoid; as the adage goes ... "shite happens".

 

[Pablo22]

When is it supposed to be up and running smoothly?

 

[Sevendeuceoff72]

I love that ACR just sent an email to promote their "update". LOL!!!! THE SITE IS STILL NOT WORKING PROPERLY!! yet they find the need to send a promotional email about it??? No rewards system, no "blitz poker" still, the WPN bots are still rampant, find something else to down with your time then get scammed by these guys.

 

[wpilson70]

I have great fun on ACR. Highly rate the site.
If you have no skill, you will never fund a site that suits you.

I’ve never played on ACR. Have no horse in this particular race.

Been on CardsChat a while now. Read a lot of threads. Sifted through mountains of bullshit and bellyaches over simple bad beats and some simply bad play.

But this golden gem. It’s by far the truest statement I’ve ever read here, or on any other forum I’ve been part of

If you have no skill, you will never find (my edit) a site that suits you

Amen. Couldn’t have said it better myself

 

[Sevendeuceoff72]