Poker Stars just does not want to you win.

[okeedokalee]

Easy solution, you don't like a site, then register elsewhere. There are many sites available.

 

[Erickaie]

I should say that most sites are all the same, just try to navigate and check what site feels more comfortable for you to play, i personally play on 3 different sites, but i think that 888 poker is one of my favorite site so far.

 

[Augustus173]

No lo creo

I believe in the smoothness of the game. I also believe in the brand, PokerStar. Am I mistaken

 

[Chalada12]

It is stupid.
If there is a way to win, Poker Stars will kill it.
Example, there are no 7-star players anymore.
Those people win a lot, but their winnings were form their rakes.
And there were tens thousands players who tried to reach that level, and they all failed, they paid a lot.


Another example, many people believed there is NO way to be a Spin & Go pro, but some players did beat the game.
Now Poker Stars gives 1X prize(!), it is disgusting, it just ruined the game.

Pokerstars doesn’t care about the players anymore as it has reached and acheived all project’s goals , so now it s only about benefits.

 

[Illzone]

It's quite obvious that PokerStars is rigged and actively decides who wins in order to keep poor players at their 'tables'. Request your hand history regularly, and find legal channels that will be able to prove that the odds don't come off at all, and that rather than running real poker, they are frankly dealing cards that suit the site (ie keeps bad players investing)
As other players have pointed out this may also be the case at other online 'poker' sites.
At the end of the day, live poker (at casino etc) is the only real poker you will ever be able to play. And if you want to truly enjoy the game, and genuinely improve your skills at the game, then PokerStars is no better than free to plays, such as Zynga. Or basic casino games where the odds remain at 55% against the punter.
All that said, don't give up hope on the game. When it's delivered naturally (truly random), it's one of the most engaging card games there is.
When it becomes unenjoyable, due to losing almost every 85% advantage you have two handed on the river it's time to request your money back and find a proper alternative, rather than think that poker actually is just a card version of bingo. It's not.

 

[Illzone]

I believe in the smoothness of the game. I also believe in the brand, PokerStar. Am I mistaken

You are mistaken. But you will learn this in your own time. Request your hand history constantly.

 

[Illzone]

Easy solution, you don't like a site, then register elsewhere. There are many sites available.

That is possibly the most arrogant, and pointless replies one could imagine. Easy solution, think hard about your flippant views and try harder to make a meaningful contribution.

 

[Illzone]

i have seen crazy several crazy hands in live poker, so it's obvious that paranoid people would say that some players cheats whit dealer ( that is more possible that rigged online poker).

You don't realise that just because you have seen wild hands in live poker, they in any way override the natural odds! Poker wouldn't be fun without that edge. Request your hand history regularly and you will discover that PokerStars turns an average of 85% into around 20 - 30%, over many hundreds of hands. Analyze live poker over same number of hands and you will find those percentages end up much closer to the expected long range odds. But hey, I guess you don't understand poker. Which makes you an almost certain short term winner at PokerStars site.
Thanks anyway for your completely stupid opinion.

 

[Illzone]

Actually pokerstars is dedicated to recreational players. Many pro and professional players have changed rooms because it is no longer profitable to play in this ... the new owners and entrepreneurs have taken out the rake so that you only spend ... there are times you surely win but keep is not constant since they are made so that you lose and deposit again .. have what you have ps makes you lose ..
I think like you.

Can you please explain the difference between 'pro' and 'professional' players?
And by 'recreational' players, do you mean 'bingo' players?
I think I like you (if you can clear up these doubts)

 

[619Leafs]

I think its not just pokerstars. All online poker rooms I feel have too many bad beats. Those beats need to be dramatically reduced.

 

[Sokolik]

Show me a casino or poker room that works to keep players winning. I'd love to go there.

 

[puzzlefish]

It's quite obvious that PokerStars is rigged and actively decides who wins in order to keep poor players at their 'tables'. Request your hand history regularly, and find legal channels that will be able to prove that the odds don't come off at all, and that rather than running real poker, they are frankly dealing cards that suit the site (ie keeps bad players investing)
As other players have pointed out this may also be the case at other online 'poker' sites.
At the end of the day, live poker (at casino etc) is the only real poker you will ever be able to play. And if you want to truly enjoy the game, and genuinely improve your skills at the game, then PokerStars is no better than free to plays, such as Zynga. Or basic casino games where the odds remain at 55% against the punter.
All that said, don't give up hope on the game. When it's delivered naturally (truly random), it's one of the most engaging card games there is.
When it becomes unenjoyable, due to losing almost every 85% advantage you have two handed on the river it's time to request your money back and find a proper alternative, rather than think that poker actually is just a card version of bingo. It's not.

Welcome to the forums. This thread is quite old and frankly I don't know if many of the posters you quoted are still around here.

In short, I agree that Stars isn't real poker. Neither is 888 or Party and likely no poker site out there offers a true random deal for each hand/board. The question is whether you can do anything about it. I think that you can, but you have to solve each site's "random" number generator. When you do that, you will see a lot of weird things start to happen.. beyond your standard bad beats and coolers.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Welcome to the forums. This thread is quite old and frankly I don't know if many of the posters you quoted are still around here.

In short, I agree that Stars isn't real poker. Neither is 888 or Party and likely no poker site out there offers a true random deal for each hand/board. The question is whether you can do anything about it. I think that you can, but you have to solve each site's "random" number generator. When you do that, you will see a lot of weird things start to happen.. beyond your standard bad beats and coolers.

Stated by a guy who really has very little experience as you only play 10cent games. Seriously, how do you think your opinion would hold any water at all? It'd be like a young kid trying to play chess thinking they know what the game of chess is about cuz they know how to play checkers. Then when they lose, they figure it must be a con.

It is amusing to see how the rigged-believers like to get an audience with each other. Like one explaining to another rookie player about how it's rigged... makes it rigged. And so it is... so.. cuz I said it is. It is such a huge waste of time. Believe it or not (I know.. hard to believe) I do my best to not respond on any posts like this one... but it pops up in the hot threads so I take a peek. What a waste of time. It'd be like trying to tell a drunk person why they should refrain from having another beer.
What 'puzzles' me though is, I believe that you believe you're an intelligent person. Am I right?
If so, then why don't you just put a bit of effort into working on the game. I guarantee if you did, you'd change your tune completely. But I don't think it'll ever happen.

 

[fundiver199]

poker sites are private businesses, and as other private businesses their main goal is to create profit for their investors. One of the way Stars has achieved that in recent years is to raise their prices. This is obviously not great for players, but it is legitimate, since it is not Stars obligation to provide an opportunity for someone to make a living out of online poker.

At the end of the day, we can play, where we want, and there are still plenty of reasons to play on Stars for many people. Which is why, they are still by far the largest western facing poker platform. To just mention one of the reasons, if you want to play SnGs, Stars has by far the largest selection and the most activity.

 

[BDR-83]

That’s for sure. It’s unrealistic to win at pokerstars.

 

[puzzlefish]

Stated by a guy who really has very little experience as you only play 10cent games. Seriously, how do you think your opinion would hold any water at all? It'd be like a young kid trying to play chess thinking they know what the game of chess is about cuz they know how to play checkers. Then when they lose, they figure it must be a con.

It is amusing to see how the rigged-believers like to get an audience with each other. Like one explaining to another rookie player about how it's rigged... makes it rigged. And so it is... so.. cuz I said it is. It is such a huge waste of time. Believe it or not (I know.. hard to believe) I do my best to not respond on any posts like this one... but it pops up in the hot threads so I take a peek. What a waste of time. It'd be like trying to tell a drunk person why they should refrain from having another beer.
What 'puzzles' me though is, I believe that you believe you're an intelligent person. Am I right?
If so, then why don't you just put a bit of effort into working on the game. I guarantee if you did, you'd change your tune completely. But I don't think it'll ever happen.

You're on Poker Stars now, right? What is your experience there and have you been able to match the results of your idol? Instead of peddling your opinions about my experience and my buy-ins, why not post some of your own recent achievements on Stars? For starters, maybe cash in the Stars freeroll here on CC.

 

[Igor Popadyk]

my opinion is that poker stars do not have the goal of being the first; it is no longer to bring such profit

 

[German629]

Hello, blueleaf! So, by order! You write: " It is stupid. If there is a way to win, PokerStars will kill it." Dude, what is stupid?!
If some players are lose, this means only one: other players are win! If You, for example, personally lost in any kind of Poker, this means, another player won... And reverse!.. In why a problem?! The PokerStars, as the other Poker Rooms, only present the game area
and different services players, where they contesting between us... That's all! If You, for example, is not like service PokerStars:
no problems(!), You coming up in another Poker Room, and etc!.. The most a main, I think, first of all, need more to work over yourself and own Poker Skill, and believe in your Luck!

 

[jesuisjesus]

It's capitalism in monopoly, they have so conquered the online poker market that they are doing everything to make even greater profits and no one will object to them. This is the future of the whole business.

 

[Redbull199030]

Hi.
Do not like PokerStars, do not play.
What is the problem ?
There are quite a lot of other poker sites.
Pay attention to 888 poker. This site has a very large selection of freerolls with good prizes.
Good luck.

hard to stay in the black

 

[Newzooozooo]

hard to stay in the black

Hi.
Please read this:
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/new-members-corner-76/what-a-quality-post-323519/#post3601459
Good luck.

 

[fundiver199]

There are plenty of people, who win money on PokerStars. I have not won huge sums, and my winrate is not as good, as I would ideally like, but I have won in both cash games and tournaments over large samples of hands.

 

[okeedokalee]

That is possibly the most arrogant, and pointless replies one could imagine. Easy solution, think hard about your flippant views and try harder to make a meaningful contribution.

Dude, there are just as many bad runs on ACR as there are on Stars.
Does that mean ACR is rigged too?
Trying to persuade yourself these sites are rigged is an act in futility.
Please find another form of enjoyment before you lose all your money

 

[ToNy70929]

Interesting topic. I read different opinions. And each opinion has its own truth. However, some of the messages, “then don’t play at Pokerstars or don’t play at all” are perplexing. And if a person loves poker, if he does not have the opportunity to play live, if a person wants to honestly win? Now about playing live and playing at Pokerstars. Winnings depend on the dealer and the random number generator program. What is a random number program, can it be falsified? Twisted up? Any program can be programmed to order, as required by the customer. When I lose 13 times in a row, AA loses, when 3 hours fall out of trash and there are no coincidences on the flop, when you constantly lose your new deposits, is this a falsification? Just do not say that a person plays poorly, experience in the game is sufficient. I and 2 other friends from the same region noticed one pattern that our game is on or off at the same time. 10% goes and 90% does not go. I don’t think that this could happen to us in live poker, but alas, in our country there is no live poker. It remains to live with the hope that Pokerstars will have enough interest only from the distribution of hands, will give us a chance to all win the game

 

[fundiver199]

Dude, there are just as many bad runs on ACR as there are on Stars.
Does that mean ACR is rigged too?
Trying to persuade yourself these sites are rigged is an act in futility.
Please find another form of enjoyment before you lose all your money

If online poker is rigged, then it must be rigged for me, because I am consistently winning on both 888 Poker and Stars