Rebuy Tournaments Unfair?

[Two6JJ]

If you play rebuys make sure you are prepared to rebuy a time or two. Bad beats are going to happen and rebuy tournaments play very loose. Solution is to play freezeouts only.

 

[Kenzie 96]

My experience with unlimited rebuy tournaments is terrible.

No matter how much you survive waiting for the right chance, slowly building your stack, it won't matter at all.
Cause there'll always be a number of retards who will shove preflop with any hand they got and just rebuy if they loose.

In the end it all comes down to who has the money to throw in like an idiot and get lucky with the cards they draw.

Lost with AK today to J10 preflop today.Yesterday lost AK preflop to something like A4. Specially because they aren't afraid to shove and get lucky or try over n over again through rebuys.
Not gonna try unlimited rebuy tournaments ever again.

I know I sound very salty but when it all comes down to chance & 0% skill, what is the purpose?

I'm talking about micros of course

Well, professional football is unfair for those who don't bring enough skilz to the game, so what. At least in micro poker al you need is enough rebuys to give you a chance to survive the suck outs & you have a chance to make some coin.

 

[titiduru]

They are not unfair. They are a unique game.

If you had a bad experience in one, and haven't figured them out yet, then stay away from them.

If you decide to play one, I highly suggest you have multiple re-buys ready.

In a R&A, the beginning stages will never be tight. Midway thru the re-buy period they might get tighter, but at the end of the re-buy period they do get crazy.

Always do the add-on!

Re-buying multiple times, adding on, you need to win that tourney just to break even

 

[titiduru]

You should understand that rebuy is meaningful only in the very beginning stage of the tournament, when almost all players have approximately equal starting stacks. Rebay in the middle of the tournament, like late registration means that you will play with the initial stack against players with large stacks that play well or today with them luck..

Since you americanized your first name from Andrey to Andrew, you should change your last name from Popov to Preacher. Andrew Preacher, considering your spelling, people will think you are hillbilly from West Virginia

 

[trent32la]

Max late reg, play extremely nitty and stall until the addon if you have to play hands before the addon.

Personally I never play rebuys from the start and use the max late regging strategy to try and spend as little as possible.

 

[Alexandr Svinarshyk]

Such tournaments as crazy before the addon. I also try not to play them when the stack is small.

 

[Zorba]

My experience with unlimited rebuy tournaments is terrible.

No matter how much you survive waiting for the right chance, slowly building your stack, it won't matter at all.
Cause there'll always be a number of retards who will shove preflop with any hand they got and just rebuy if they loose.

In the end it all comes down to who has the money to throw in like an idiot and get lucky with the cards they draw.

Lost with AK today to J10 preflop today.Yesterday lost AK preflop to something like A4. Specially because they aren't afraid to shove and get lucky or try over n over again through rebuys.
Not gonna try unlimited rebuy tournaments ever again.

I know I sound very salty but when it all comes down to chance & 0% skill, what is the purpose?

I'm talking about micros of course

You are talking like AK is unbeatable. If you don't like that people play loose and rebuy then I have an easy fix for you, DON'T PLAY THEM.

It is not unfair as you can rebuy also, that is an even playing field, if you are complaining that others with bigger bankrolls have an advantage then my advice is to play and not lose and build your bankroll.

AK is not unbeatable.

Unfair if you have a small bankroll yes because you will go against so many draws early game play which equals bad beat city most of the time.

No it isn't unfair, everyone has the same options.

what are these freerolls?

If you read the whole thread you will know that they are not freerolls.

why is it unfair? everyone has the same opportunity.

This ^^^^

They are not unfair. They are a unique game.

This ^^^^

Alucard, body I agree with you 100%. Is sick to see these looser get bitten and then re buy and re buy until they hit a Bingo!

So I stop playing those re buy Tournaments, unless they are Freerolls, and then only pay Nut hands. :deal:

Rebuy tournaments are not freerolls, if they were everyone would shove every hand until they hit a big pot.

:top:

 

[eberetta1]

My experience with unlimited rebuy tournaments is terrible.

No matter how much you survive waiting for the right chance, slowly building your stack, it won't matter at all.
Cause there'll always be a number of retards who will shove preflop with any hand they got and just rebuy if they loose.

In the end it all comes down to who has the money to throw in like an idiot and get lucky with the cards they draw.

Lost with AK today to J10 preflop today.Yesterday lost AK preflop to something like A4. Specially because they aren't afraid to shove and get lucky or try over n over again through rebuys.
Not gonna try unlimited rebuy tournaments ever again.

I know I sound very salty but when it all comes down to chance & 0% skill, what is the purpose?

I'm talking about micros of course

I treat them the same as I would a $20 entry fee game. It is not unfair that some people have $20 and others may not. With this knowledge, this type of tourney could be used to your advantage.
And yea, it does not always make sense to keep feeding the tourney money.

 

[ClickPoker]

You have to be unlucky, but it is likely. I also had bad experiences with unlimited rebuy and also I did not participate again in those

 

[Alucard]

You are talking like AK is unbeatable. If you don't like that people play loose and rebuy then I have an easy fix for you, DON'T PLAY THEM.

AK is not unbeatable.

Rebuy tournaments are not freerolls, if they were everyone would shove every hand until they hit a big pot.

:top:

My point is that when a person keeps on shoving with every hand they got, even though you wait with a great pre flop hand , he has a chance to get lucky.
And against me it happened twice.

Actually in micro stakes, rebuy tournaments are crazier than freerolls.
It is like playing a video game which has no permadeath. Once you fail, you try again.

In freerolls you have a better chance because some players are hesitant to getting knocked out without seeing the money. So in a sense they have a good competition than these micro stakes rebuys.

In that particular game the number of rebuys were twice as much the number of entrants. In the end I guess the house is the happiest of all.

Don't get me wrong. I get the whole point. But if the players would value the money a bit too seriously it would not be such a looney bin.

 

[Alucard]

I treat them the same as I would a $20 entry fee game. It is not unfair that some people have $20 and others may not. With this knowledge, this type of tourney could be used to your advantage.
And yea, it does not always make sense to keep feeding the tourney money.

Fair point. But is it worth it? Is the money big enough to consider the expected buyin+rebuys?

With the same amount you could play 40 tournaments without rebuys play your top game and likely get to the final table multiple times.

 

[Andrew Popov]

Since you americanized your first name from Andrey to Andrew, you should change your last name from Popov to Preacher. Andrew Preacher, considering your spelling, people will think you are hillbilly from West Virginia

Cyrillic is used in Russia. So registering in poker rooms or on here on the forum, I have to write my name in the Latin alphabet. My name allows three variants of writing in Latin: Andrew, Andrey and Andrei. Translation of the surname is unacceptable, otherwise how will I go through document verification?

It is not unfair that some people have $20 and others may not.

Oh, you're a communist ?!

 

[Alucard]

Well, professional football is unfair for those who don't bring enough skilz to the game, so what. At least in micro poker al you need is enough rebuys to give you a chance to survive the suck outs & you have a chance to make some coin.

Not a great comparison. A person becomes a pro footballer through skill,dedication & hard work. What has that got to do any thing with the luck of the draw?

And what titiduru said,

"Re-buying multiple times, adding on, you need to win that tourney just to break even "

 

[Lilbrown92]

These are now universally known as FreeBuys! Free is often worth investing a little time, you might go on a rush of monumental proportions, who knows?

You should still be prepared to re-buy multiple times.

It must be because I am a bit tight but every time I have been eliminated from those tournaments I have never thought about re-buying. I feel like I would be spending money with very little chance of having a return.
Maybe I'm just a bit tight.

 

[Kenzie 96]

Not a great comparison. A person becomes a pro footballer through skill,dedication & hard work. What has that got to do any thing with the luck of the draw?

And what titiduru said,

"Re-buying multiple times, adding on, you need to win that tourney just to break even "[/




Of course it's not true, unless your a total idiot & why wouldn't you want to play with someone like that?

 

[DougPkrMonsta]

Yeah who would want to play a tournament with a bigger prize pool and people playing badly trying to get a big stack.

The times you run bad and get knocked out will be more than off-set by the times you make deep runs. Not to mention you get more than a 2x min-cash to pay for your rebuys and add-on.

 

[TheNutz4You]

all the rebuy's just bloat the prize pool which is good. Pick and choose your spots to call an all in and you can chip up like nobody's business.

 

[James_Moria]

As for me, I also try do not play such kind of tournaments very often! I don't like them........ but you may consider them like one more chance to get a good experience for you! Good luck!)

 

[orchidra]

I would not call them unfair, as the rebuy(s) are just part of the rules. I have not played one yet, maybe I should (very tightly).

 

[AgentXtreme]

I think the period of rebuy is a great opportunity to build a big stack , there is a huge part of luck on this type of mtt because , it's a turbo , if you play very tight , you will find yourself with 10-15BBS in the first 30min , it's certain that you need a bit luck and good hole cards, if you prepare just 1buy-in for this tournament , it's not a great idea to play it , just look for another regular mtt

 

[Rawdeal1955]

I play them like any tournament play good poker and if you want to rebuy because a nimrod knock you out you can

 

[Aparajit]

Rebuy tournaments are easy to be played then the other tournaments. Like you said many shove and you dont have to shove.
Just wait for perfect Pockets and then SHove. As many would call you will win.

In these games, the problem comes when you play a hand lose a part of your stack and feel a tendency to shove seeing a A K or A Q etc
and at the same time, someone will get 10 10 or 7 7 etc

Thats how the random generator works. And if you shove you lose.

Trick is dont play loosely initially and double up and keep your stack always at AVERAGE !

then you are good. Blessings

 

[Aparajit]

Rebuy tournaments are easy to be played then the other tournaments. Like you said many shove . So you dont have to shove.
Just wait for perfect Pockets and then SHove. As many would call you will win and probably doubleup.

In these games, the problem comes when you play a hand lose a part of your stack and feel a tendency to shove seeing a A K or A Q etc
and at the same time, someone will get 10 10 or 7 7 etc
Thats how the random generator works. And if you shove you lose.

Trick is dont play loosely initially and double up and keep your stack always at AVERAGE ! you can see it in Info tab

then you are good. Blessings

 

[Bagmet]

Don't like the rebuys and Addons ,like knock and they return with a half or 2/3 of your Bank.It starts to go cards and they are tripled. and interesting lost play

 

[davem86]

Max late reg, play extremely nitty and stall until the addon if you have to play hands before the addon.

Personally I never play rebuys from the start and use the max late regging strategy to try and spend as little as possible.

I took down a few tourneys with this strategy.

Rebuys can be a bad choice for smaller bankrolls.
(Micros)They are ridiculously donkish at the start and end of the rebuy periods.

Id suggest to reg late and addon or if you have enough to play with depending on the buy-in take a few chances early to try and build an early chiplead.