I guess it depends on the stakes and if you can afford losing or not. Additional if you're tilting easily or not.
When you play within your bankroll/budget, which you should always do, then it's probably indeed a bad move to pay the fee in the long run.
If the money matters that much to you or you tilt easily, then you can cash out IMO.
I also don't use the cashout feature but also not a regular cash player.
When you play within your bankroll/budget, which you should always do, then it's probably indeed a bad move to pay the fee in the long run.
If the money matters that much to you or you tilt easily, then you can cash out IMO.
I also don't use the cashout feature but also not a regular cash player.
I play strictly cash games and never use the cash out function as well as I never use the Run it Twice function. But I do understand players who do. People have different reasons to do what they do. But if I see a player with tilt issues cashes out this is to be used in future playing as information. And as we know poker is a game of incomplete information, one should use any information possible.
Its not the stakes for me, its getting rid of the variance, I would have to play the same hand thousands of times in order to achieve the Ev, the cash out option seems like you take the average result at a small fee and therefore don't have to play large volumes but alot of people seem to think its bad so maybe I will reconsider my theory!Andyreas said:
I thought that for quite a long time too but maybe there are spots where a cashout could be a good decision?pentazepam said:
For example: we have 1 out and only the river left. Would u still not cashout in this spot?
I almost always withdraw money before river if my chances to win are not more than 80%. I think that 1% is a normal fee for stable money without nerves. Especially if a fish playing against me, who calls all my all-inns. 🤔
You should never be cashing out. Poker is a game with narrow edges that narrow even further as you move up in stakes. That 1% will add up to be a significant amount of your profit over a long timeline which is how decisions in poker are supposed to be made, on an infinite timeline.
If you're feeling stressed out about losing a stack after going all in it probably suggests that you're playing at a stake where you're uncomfortable dealing with the variance associated with poker. The emotional weight of the money is causing you to make poor strategic poker decisions as giving away 1% of a pot you're going to win 70% of the time because the 30% of the time you lose you'll feel bad isn't a business decision it's an emotional one.
The mental game of poker is just as challenging as the strategic aspect of the game.
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If you're feeling stressed out about losing a stack after going all in it probably suggests that you're playing at a stake where you're uncomfortable dealing with the variance associated with poker. The emotional weight of the money is causing you to make poor strategic poker decisions as giving away 1% of a pot you're going to win 70% of the time because the 30% of the time you lose you'll feel bad isn't a business decision it's an emotional one.
The mental game of poker is just as challenging as the strategic aspect of the game.
GL
EDS
Suns of Beaches said:
No I would decline the cash out if I only have 1 out left. Nothing much to recoup. I prefer to get the shot to take the whole pot, small as the probability is.
Instead, if I am in a big pot and the other guy has like 3 outs on the river, I would take the cash out in that spot because I am not losing out on much by cashing out. Whereas if I get unlucky then I lost it all. Put another way, much higher downside to protect against and I am not losing much upside.
I do accept the cash out sometimes, depending on whether I am running good and what my mood is. Am I close to tilting?
Cashing out is -EV for a given hand, no matter what the situation. Losing 1% equity on all your all-ins is a considerable amount. However, maybe reducing variance, for example, is causing you to tilt less, so it might be worth it to you.
Long term cashing out is a mistake. That said I could see using it on a very large pot that's outside your normal play. If you just learning I guess I could see the value of takeing the win as well as at that point you not a winning player. I just would not recommend doing it.
