Common Online Poker Mistakes by Rory Monahan

Terissa · Jul 17, 2005

Great advice

Awesome actually. I'll keep all those rules in mind next game I play/:ciao:

Threesixes · Jul 17, 2005

PokRok said:
Rule 2 on the auto play functions is true, but if there is a generally accepted set of tells to them, then they are open to exploitation, example:

You've got the nuts on the flop, but the pot isn't that big and a bet would scare everyone off, so you click auto check to feign weakness, everyone is more comfortable that no one has anything, and if someone else bets, you take your time to call.

just a though :questionm

Hey I just kind of tested this theory out, lol. In this case it seemed to work. It was in a $10 MTT (235 players). I have AK, He has QJ. Preflop I bet $225, He calls. Flop comes A,A,Rag. I (just after reading this) got autocheck on. He checks 1st, then It autochecks. Turn is a Q. He bets $300 I raise $600, He calls. River is a K. He sets me all in. He ends up with 200 bucks left

I think the autocheck gave him confidence, but thats just speculation. I'm gonna try this again.

kidkrunk · Mar 5, 2006

as i dont agree with everything said here.most of it is on the money.

jd164 · Mar 5, 2006

Thanks for the advice.Looking back on it most people do use the auto check,and it is a good indicator of hand.I alot of these are common sense,but it nice to be reminded of it

ruffcut68 · Mar 6, 2006

Great advice Thanks see one of my mistakes and corrected it.

ruffcut68 · Oct 17, 2006

Interesting post ... used thhis technique today on a sng worked great

blankoblanco · Oct 18, 2006

NewSetUp said:
Mistake No. 4: Making Enemies.

The reason that you don't want to make
enemies is simple... the enemies you make
playing poker will be "gunning" for you.

It is never good to have players who want
you out of a game, because they will be more
likely to make a move against you.

This takes the power out of your hands
because the other players aren't playing FOR
chips, they are playing AGAINST you.

So, keep to yourself, and let the chips do
the talking...

Disagree with this to an extent. Not saying you should be a jerk, but if another player is a jerk and makes a snide or rude comment and you can get under their skin with a reply, I wouldn't necessarily advise against it.

I was just playing in an SnG. Me and another guy to the flop, who had been pretty brash and criticizing the play of others at the table. I'm in the BB with rags. I miss, but make a smallish bet at the pot and the guy calls. The turn gives me a straight draw, I check to him. He makes a very tiny bet in relation to the pot, and I call. The river gives me my straight. I bet big and he calls. He shows that he flopped trips. "unbelievable. nice catch.." he says, to which I replied "nicer slowplay lol". He says: "I'm gonna have all your chips".

This sets up a later hand. I have QQ and I raise 4 BBs from MP. Sure enough he's the only caller. Flop comes 5 8 T rainbow. I bet a little more than half the pot and just as I thought he would, he pushes all-in (with a bigger than average stack). I call and he shows 44. Blank blank, and I take a very large pot to become chip leader.

You WANT players to let their emotions get in the way of their game. It's a mistake, and your opponents mistakes are how your profit in Poker.

scifell · Oct 18, 2006

combuboom said:
Disagree with this to an extent. Not saying you should be a jerk, but if another player is a jerk and makes a snide or rude comment and you can get under their skin with a reply, I wouldn't necessarily advise against it.

I was just playing in an SnG. Me and another guy to the flop, who had been pretty brash and criticizing the play of others at the table. I'm in the BB with rags. I miss, but make a smallish bet at the pot and the guy calls. The turn gives me a straight draw, I check to him. He makes a very tiny bet in relation to the pot, and I call. The river gives me my straight. I bet big and he calls. He shows that he flopped trips. "unbelievable. nice catch.." he says, to which I replied "nicer slowplay lol". He says: "I'm gonna have all your chips".

This sets up a later hand. I have QQ and I raise 4 BBs from MP. Sure enough he's the only caller. Flop comes 5 8 T rainbow. I bet a little more than half the pot and just as I thought he would, he pushes all-in (with a bigger than average stack). I call and he shows 44. Blank blank, and I take a very large pot to become chip leader.

You WANT players to let their emotions get in the way of their game. It's a mistake, and your opponents mistakes are how your profit in Poker.

I absolutely agree and was just about to say the same thing. If someone is playing for you, instead of for money, they are playing poorly and giving you room to take advantage of thier mistake(s). If you can find the right person who is easily swept up by thier emotions, by all means take advantage of it! Dont avoid it!

Mooronic · Oct 18, 2006

Mistake No. 8: making sure you hit the right button.

Nothing stirs more rage when I accidentally fold the nuts with a huge pot (recently happened just a few days ago – haven’t been online since).

dayna · Jan 7, 2007

thanks

thanks gr8t advise

claybird43 · Jan 7, 2007

Some very good tips here, Thanks for posting.

brutus · Jan 7, 2007

very good tips....have encountered that i am instant enemy because of the brutus buckeye avatar by buckeyes haters. have been thinking about changing it just because of this reason

id do good on a ring table and think well hell if i play two tables then i make even more. mistake. i dont really change my play but i think by using the auto buttons or my timing with bets...(checking too quick or not intentionally making people think im thinking about calling a bet when holding the nuts). took a few attempts and figured out that while some people play muti tables and it keeps them from getting bored and playing too many hands its just not for me. i can USUALLY double my money or close to it when playing single table but when i go to two it goes down hill.

brutus · Jan 7, 2007

combuboom said:
.You WANT players to let their emotions get in the way of their game. It's a mistake, and your opponents mistakes are how your profit in Poker.

i do agree with this to an extent. if you have someone that is gunning for you after sucking out on them it can be a good thing but dont attempt to bluff anything with that person in the hand. they will more than likely always call you. i think its a double edged sword that has to handled very carefully.

FinalTable · Jan 7, 2007

I would echo the overplaying your starting hand. I can't believe people go all-in preflop with like a KJ. Even if I'm OTB, I'd still only bet about 3-5X BB and then be worried if an A hits the board. I'd be ready to get away from the hand. If you go All-In preflop, you will get a caller early on and then you are stuck if someone was playing his Ax. I know there are the people who just try to get lucky on free money games, but in real money games, I don't understand it.

I have been playing at the $3 SNGs (trying to build a cushion to move up to the $5 SNs) and I find that so many people go out quick by severely overplaying their starting hand. I mean, $3 bucks isn't a lot of money - but it's still money. I won a SNG last night where I got away from a hand that I've seen so many play to the end. I had KK and raised preflop 3X blind. One caller. Flop came out with Axx. I check and he comes back with a $600 raise - I lay the hand down. I typed in that I didn't want to lay that down and the A was the one card I didn't want to see. He asked if I had KK and I said yeah...his respone "good lay down". He said a little more, but it was obvious he wasn't use to people laying that down on him in online poker. Anway - I see people hit their K but there is an A on the board and they way overplay it. So many people are sucked in by the check-raise. They pair their K but an A comes out. Someone checks and they go all-in and play right into the check.

Also - I own "The Cooler" and it is a good movie.

brutus · Jan 7, 2007

combuboom said:
So many people are sucked in by the check-raise. They pair their K but an A comes out. Someone checks and they go all-in and play right into the check.quote]

or pair with Ace on flop falling into same thing with someone that has :banghead:

_MavsFan_ · Jan 7, 2007

I agree totally with this information. I cannot tell you the number of times I used to autocheck whenever the flop came out on absolute poker. Some of the times it did not do anything to my game, but other times, whenever players would either go all in or raise really high at the instant that I would click the auto-check button, the "call" button would come up instead of the "check" button - which means I lose alot of money.

This did not happen 2 many times to me, but when it did and I had crap cards, I was severely pissed at myself for using these "auto" buttons.

Now I do not use the auto check buttons that much, but when I do, I am extremely careful now.

Has this happened to anyone else? or am I just victim to bad luck?

FinalTable · Jan 7, 2007

When I first started - I'd sometimes have the button come up to call. I wouldn't be paying attention and would hit call not realizing someone went all-in before me and I'd call the All-In.

Styrofoam · Jan 9, 2007

basically...this is what i got out of this post..

Don't distract yourself. Checking means weakness, betting/raising fast means strength, don't talk, and don't show your cards...

i take issue with 2 of these... you can check adn not be weak....sometimes checkign is the correct action, and taking time to do it, or doing it immidiately doesn't matter....why not speed the game up when you KNOW you're going to check? Second...talking isn't bad, just don't change the way you do it... if you're always a jackass, then continue to be one, if you are a nice person (which i reccomend, it makes people play looser against you) then don't fly off the handle when someone wins.

gamblorised · Aug 5, 2007

Impatience

Tall Jaye 500 said:
:ridinghor I agree with your your advice. Those are all tips that I have encountered before, and are all very sound. My one complaint is that, I think you should've mentioned the strength of your starting hand. I have found that this is one of my key weaknesses. Patience not being a part of online poker. So sometimes you enter pots when your not supposed to. You should'nt enter into a pot with a K2 suited and except to take the pot, even if you make your flush, someone could be holding the Ace, so you still lose. The better your starting hand, the better you can apply your poker skill.

:deal:
Such a good point! I play at least twice as many pots as I should out of boredom. It's the number one aspect of my game that has kept me from making a profit at online poker.

the clêaner · Aug 13, 2007

Good post, in regards to timing tells, a quick check or call very often means a draw instead of a strong hand. Agree with the rest. Other big mistakes include

playing weak hands out of position
wrong bet sizing
not quiting when tilting
slowplaying to much
not value betting the river enough
not inducing a river bluff by checking, when oponent obviously missed his draw.
not spending enought time on game selection

just a couple that came to my mind ...

ruffcut68 · Aug 14, 2007

Good Advice all the way!
Still building my bank roll from free rolls
Maybe I will get in the money one day

marcor7 · Aug 14, 2007

sticking good advice...if one indeed committed such mistake, that advice is a reminder not to do it again or prevent of such mistake from taking place.

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-PotCommited88- · Aug 14, 2007

great advice. just let me say you really shouldn't focus too much on the bets/checks. immediate bets could mean anything. it is more important to know your player and not focus too much on any set rules... every player is different in some regards

DP_Machine · Aug 15, 2007

Common Online Poker Mistakes

Great advice in this thread - and I'm definitely a practicer of some of these mistakes on numerous occasions.

One thing that I used to do when I played online more frequently was that before I login (doesn't matter which site, UB, PokerRoom, whatever) I had to get into a frame of mind in order to get into that mode for playing poker. It's so easy to get distracted and it's so different than when you're going to a B&M Casino.

Going to a B&M you have the travel time to think to yourself and get psyched about what you're going to do and sometimes an adrenaline rush. When you finally get there - you should be like - 'ok, I'm ready to go'. Online, your travel time involves just walking upstairs or into the next room and sittin down in the chair.

One thing that I used to do was pace around and think about past experiences - one time I even went outside and walked around the block to reflect and try to emulate the thoughts that go through my head when going to a B&M.

Not sure if this would help others, but it helps me get into that mindset of playing poker and to prevent distractions.

Cheers and good luck on the tables!

aarogorn_ · Aug 15, 2007

Best advice I have seen in a while, Thanks

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