Common Online Poker Mistakes by Rory Monahan

respira · May 29, 2005

I agree with everything but #2 also, sometimes I purposely will delay when I have the nuts. It has payed off many times. It is truely amazing how many people will take you all in when the smell weakness unwittingly falling into your trap.

beatrix · May 30, 2005

PokRok said:
Rule 2 on the auto play functions is true, but if there is a generally accepted set of tells to them, then they are open to exploitation, example:

You've got the nuts on the flop, but the pot isn't that big and a bet would scare everyone off, so you click auto check to feign weakness, everyone is more comfortable that no one has anything, and if someone else bets, you take your time to call.

just a though :questionm

I agree, no rule should be followed religiously in poker
the object is to win, and keeping the other players guessing never hurts

Kenzie 96 · May 30, 2005

Thanks for the tips, hadn't given the auto-post buttons much thought.

G M O N E Y · May 31, 2005

NewSetup

In your post you say that a delayed check is a weakness. Later you go on to say
"However, if you take a moment, people must ask themselves "Are they slow playing it? Will I be check-raised? How has he played in the past?"

My question: is the delayed check actually seen as a strength?

MicheleW · Jun 2, 2005

Hi - Very good tips! Thank you.

Smilin · Jun 2, 2005

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to follow these "rules" a little better. I definately get distracted alot. I try to change how much time I either check or bet with, so there's no pattern. One of my biggest problems is that I have the tendency of playing too many hands, most often in the early part of the game when the blinds are low.

RammerJammer · Jun 3, 2005

Good tips. The only one that I would consider to be a bit suspect is the "speed of action" theory. I may notice how quickly or slowly someone acts, but I've learned through personal experience that dramatic pauses or rapid actions are often caused by online communication between the player and the site as opposed to deliberate methods. I don't put a lot of stock in it. I can't count the times that I've clicked a command that took several seconds for the poker room to post on-screen, making it seem to the other players as if I was in deep thought.

Kanufi · Jun 4, 2005

That's fantastic information. Thanks a lot for sharing your inside here.
One question remains for me, though and that is the point you made about bluffing. If you get caught bluffing, even through showing your hand, can you not use this to your advantage later? As in playing similar or the same way you did on the bluff but at a time when you hold a very strong hand.
This might only work if that happens shortly after the bluff. I can still see the point when people remember your bluff hours later, but by that time you might have shown them differrent ways to bluff and used the same betting strategy when holding strong hands. This way it seems to me that I would be less predictabe.

jcav18 · Jun 4, 2005

stakes

i find that the higher the stakes the better the game. i prefer to play against more advanced players beause they usually dont make horrible cards and suck you out of alot of money

MsStyque · Jun 4, 2005

I found this post most interesting. Now I have a question regarding Mistake No. 6.
Where can I download one of those odds calculators?

Many online poker players have downloaded
"odds calculators" that give precise readouts
of the probability of any certain combination
of cards.

RammerJammer · Jun 4, 2005

Google it. "poker odds calculator program downloads"

Bke20 · Jun 4, 2005

Thanks for the tips!!! Hope my play gets better.

coendp · Jun 5, 2005

"The "Commonly Accepted Formula" is this:

A delayed check = Weakness

Instantaneous call = Strength

Instantaneous check = Weakness

Quick bet/raise on turn or river = Strength"

I think this is a bunch of crap. For example, I always act fast, not out of some strange notion of what people are going to think, but due to the fact I have 4-5 tables going at once and want to get down to business...

Buster Gonad · Jun 5, 2005

jdecost1 said:
One additional thing i have learned from playing, is playing while you have friends in the room not only is distracting they like to be back seat poker players which makes it tough. So that would be the only thing I would add.
:beer: jdecost1

I agree, often when I am on a marginal call/fold scenario, and I am thinking, my mate will shout over the top "Call" or "all-in" etc, and I find myself doing what he has just said, almost without questioning it!!! It is crazy, but afterwards I think why did/didn't I call/raise/fold that - as it wouldn't be the normal move that I would make without interference.

Buster Gonad
"RAISE RAISE RAISE!!!"

RammerJammer · Jun 5, 2005

Amen, sister. With all due respect to Rory and everyone else who's ever written a poker manual, there's only one poker "Bible" and it's Super System.

IanG · Jun 19, 2005

very helpfull again. thanks for the insight

Inger05 · Jun 19, 2005

Great advice, especially the talking too much section.

newmania20000 · Jun 22, 2005

Very interesting thread with a couple nuggets of wisdom in it. I like it a lot.

pdkash · Jun 22, 2005

guilty on most counts thanks

lightning36 · Jun 22, 2005

My biggest problem this past week was getting distracted by my kids (running around the house yelling) during two tournaments. Lost my focus and made impulsive moves that cost me. Maybe a set of chains and some tape will help ... hehe

GiddyI · Jun 23, 2005

This is my first post...WOO HOO...I have to disagree with the whole time frame betting thing. I'm a speed better no matter if it's online of offline...If I don't have the players read after a while, then I, personally, shouldn't be playing. I always know what I'm gonna do within a matter of seconds, whether it's bluff, raise, call, or fold...works best for me and has gotten me far.

Devilpoker78 · Jun 23, 2005

Rammer is the super system u mentioned by Doyle Brunson? Anyway that was a great guide, thumbs up. I think the most difficult skill to master on the simplest level is the ability to control your emotions and feelings while playing poker. The best example is getting on tilt. Alot of people say that they wont get on tilt, but it does happen, it is after all human nature and most of the time people lose out in these kinds of situations. Also another thing which is difficult to do is to fold a good hand, etc two top pairs, and trips.

Crippler450 · Jun 23, 2005

How do both a delayed check AND instantaneous check show weakness? Or are you just saying that checking shows weakness?

FrankieGreen · Jun 26, 2005

very true

very true very true you couldnt have said it better :beerglass

viking999 · Jul 13, 2005

PokRok said:
You've got the nuts on the flop, but the pot isn't that big and a bet would scare everyone off, so you click auto check to feign weakness, everyone is more comfortable that no one has anything, and if someone else bets, you take your time to call.

Yes, I've done this many times before. It works wonders when everyone is auto-checking because it will encourage someone to step up and attempt to bluff. That's when you punish them for their foolish arrogance! MUAHAHAHA! MUAHAHAHA! :evil:

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